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The old Zanussi IZ16s's motor was on the verge of burning out, so it was binned and the Panasonic was the replacement.

I considered a Hoover 9 kg, decided it was too large a capacity, and our member, 'samsungfl' Hoover problems in the past, put me off.

I thought about an AEG, but my past experience, and member 'Aeg03' problems with scored porthole glass put me off that one.

I considered for 5 seconds - a Hotpoint Aqualtis - but Indesit rubbish sprang to mind.

Mieles were too expensive for my spin speed requirements.

Bosch were considered, but due to the suspended floorboard panels of the floor, I has to discount the Bosch (mum had to bolt hers to the suspended floor - but it is fine on a concrete floor).

So I went for the Panasonic NA-16VX1.


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Interesting

Yes I have heard about Panansonic entering this field last year, They make the Best LCD and VCR's. I love my Ten year old Indesit still going strong and my Mother S218T Zabussi from 1981, Needs new door seal, Better built than some cars, Problem is too many firms have become big concerns and they are all the Same Electorlux - Zanussi, AEG, ETC, Indesit, Hoptpoint, Hoover, Candy. Where is this machine made and does it work well
 
vids

cool machine you have, ive only ever seen one and that was a brief overlooking on a video on youtube, can you do more pics and a few videos, i would love to see the machine in detail. thanks servisslimline (philip)
 
It is a very quiet machine, and the porthole creates an optical illusion of being larger than it actually is. The motor is brushless with inverter control (the carbon brushes on the open bottomed Zanussi made everything - components and flooring - absolutely clarty).

The Cotton-Eco programme only uses 44litres of water for a 7kg load; whereas the old Zanussi used 42ltr @ 5kg.

The normal Cottons cycles use 65 litres. The default rinsing is just 2, although a third may be added by pressing the 'Rinse+' button.

The bottom of the machine is enclosed, as it features a leakproof system. The drain pump cycles on and off as it spins, and is probably the noisiest part of it!

The machine looks a little like the Miele new design, but it might not last like it!

Anyway, I'm quite pleased with the machine, even if it is made in China.
 
I'm afraid I have no video facility

And even if I did, there might still be a problem, as the outer plastic glazing of the door is dark/smoked plastic.

There seems to be a spray jet that activates on initial fill and at the start of the rinses. This appears to be linked to the inlet valve, like Bosch and old AEG models (before they became Zanussi Jetsystems in disguise). It does spray onto the clothes, but I don't know if it is very effective.

I am more taken with the drum paddles, as they seem to be better positioned - being at the rear wall of the drum - than the old Zanussi IZ, thus allowing more water to be effectively sprinkled over the clothes. The Zanussi gave the impression of the paddles being half-empty of water before they reached the 12 O'clock position. Both the Zanussi and the Panasonic had/have tilted drums.
 
Cool machine! I wanted one since it came out, its got 15 mins wash, quick 60 mins and many more cycles like shirts etc, n tub clean.

Cool washer and nice spray thingy. "Enjoy washing!"
 
Great looking machine!
Very brave of you to buy one of these considering they are a total unknown with regard to build quality.

Good luck lets hope they are better than the other offerings form the far east.
 
Cheers, all

Comparing the Panasonic to the other machines on display in the shop, (Hoover, Bosch, Hotpoints, etc), the Panasonic is a creamy white - the others were more of a blazingly cold, Polar-white, white - if that makes any sense.

It still looks white, and I have to admit, far better than the depressing all-over pewter-grey of the old Zanussi, and my current silver-grey Bosch dishwasher. I really do prefer white appliances, but don't mind if they have silver highlights, such as the ring around the door, as on the new Panasonic.
 
New Machine

Hi There.

Your new machine looks great. They had them in Comet and look so coool, lol.

Happy Washing

Paul
 
Any chance of some pictures? Especially of the drum!

Thanks heaps and enjoy your new machine. It certainly looks different from all the other same same machines.
 
It certainly looks different from all the other same machine

Actually, it doesn't seem to be too different internally. For example, the soap box looks to be a similar design to Bosch, in that the drainage hole leading to the tub is situated at the front left.

Although I can find no reference to it, I presume that there is a sump eco-ball valve, since the drain hose exits the machine at top rear right - a la Bosch.

I tried shining a torch through the drum perforations, and could see the stainless steel heater, but couldn't identify the tub to sump drainage hole: I'm wondering if it is a stepped base tub, with the drainage hole on the 'step riser' (I think the old Zanussi was like this, if I remember correctly).

The drum perforations are slightly smaller than the Zanussi, and although still arranged in off-set serried ranks, the perforations appear to be set in a spiral (like a spiral thread on a screw).
 
Hi Rolls_rapide

So do you think Bosch may have had some influence in the designing of this machine?

Id have thought Panasonic would do a better job on their own to be honest. Will be interesting to see how long it lasts, reliability etc. LG certainly aren't all too special, but all Panasonics other products seem excellent so i can't see them turning out a poor washing machine.

Just this week ive seen two Zanussis of the latest (big dial in the middle) design, for spares/repairs. Not impressive seen as they must only be two years old - my Mums got one of them under my recomendation too - eeek!
 
I don't know, but...

It might be the case that Panasonic got hold of several competitor models, identified their respective strengths and weaknesses, and based their design upon those results.

Pretty much the same way that all cars these days, look alike.
 
FL1012

It's terrible that today's machines only seem to last five minutes, and you would reasonably expect a machine to last longer than two years. I always feel guilty if people ask about "the best machine to buy", and the blessed thing conks out inside a short space of time.

I think it is reasonable to presume long gone are the days of a machine lasting 15+ years. In saying that, I hope mine lasts a bloody sight longer than two years! LOL.
 

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