I got my 2010 Census today

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yeah, right...

The data *may* be protected now but it takes only the stroke of a pen to change that.

If we could reduce government to the scope that it SHOULD be (namely about the size of 3-5% of GDP) we'd have way more than enough money for EVERYTHING we needed. Including really high care healthcare.

Hunter
 
reducing government

Hunter, Be sure and try to tell your elected officials that you want spending curtailed on defense projects like weapons that the Pentagon does not want but that congress insists on building because the money goes to the defense contractors who make such large bribes, I mean campaign contributions. And while you are at it, mention the price supports that we pay to farmers who produce more milk and other crops than we can use so the govemnment pays to store them. I am sure most of us could get by on $500,000 a year without government subsidies, unlike some of the corporate farms that masquerade as family farms. Why do you think that almost every recipe you see in a magazine or newspaper has cheese added gratuitously? It's because the dairy producers are trying to get people to use up the damn dairy products. Farmers are against taxes, but are the first to squeal when a storm or drought or flood hits them. Then they want relief on top of their subsidies. Candy companies have moved out of the US because our sugar is so expensive because congress has a deal with the two Cubans who own the sugar plantations in Florida that pollute the Everglades. Our sugar prices are high for what is produced here and what little can be imported has to be sold at the same high prices or bought by the government and turned into another boondoggle, ethanol. Like the road signs read, "Your tax dollars at work."

Maplight.org is a new website that tracks political contributions and the way recipients of those contributions vote on issues involving matters of interest to contributors. This is the first time that the corruption will be available for all to see. It will be interesting to see how much and to whom the health insurance industry has paid for support. Likewise it will be interesting to see who yells loudest about homeland security yet refuses to do anything to wean us off petroleum, because they are on the payroll of big oil, while never acknowledging how much money our oil habit puts in the hands of our enemies in the middle east.

And, Hunter, while you are talking to them, you might want to suggest that until Republican officials can keep their pants zipped while away from the little lady, they might want to stop all of that morality bullcrap. Ensign's shenanigans are turning into quite the boquet of skunk cabbage with the latest subpoenas of the Republican Party and the revealing emails asking credit card companies for contributions to sway legislation. You might be pissed about the mess that is government. I am totally pissed off because I see, read and hear about more government crap each day than most of you do in a week. Mark Twain was right when he said that America has no distinct criminal class except congress. I would expand that to include a percentage of the other two branches of government as well, irrespective of party affiliation.
 
Tempest in a Teapot

I filled out the form in about 2 minutes.

It was a lot simpler than the long form I received in 2000... which wanted to know how many toilets, etc...

This one was short and sweet. Someone with 14 children (Octomom?) would of course take a bit longer.

Phone number? The local Dems already have it. I have to put my answering machine on announce only during election times.
 
I also find it truly bizarre...

...that:

1. I got a letter saying 'oh your census form is going to arrive.'
2. I got the census form.
3. I got a post card saying 'Your census form should have arrived!'

Please, spare me the waste.

Hunter
 
Married

Since my partner and I got married here in California during that brief period when we could, that is the box I checked. I have no problem with people checking that box as a same sex couple. That's about the only way we will be counted.
 
You would think the instructions to THIS important document would be in other languages!

IIRC Out-Q radio was saying the only way to get counted as a gay person --unoficially by other organizations that interpolate and extract data-- is to mark unmaried same-sex partners in the box. (Single gays don't exist, apparently).

I thought they said that marking married and same-sex or the equivalent means the data gets put aside until it is decided how to classify the entry.

The whole tax mess and the repercussions of being married on the state level, but not the federal level sound fun, fun, fun!

I think there should be no such thing as marriage in the government's eyes. Make EVERYONE have to have a civil union at city hall on the federal or state level. Make NEW church/temple/synagogue marriages going forward from xx/xx/xx date have no legal meaning. VOILA. Problem solved.
 
Toggleswitch2, you've read my mind.

I agree completely about civil unions and marriages.

My wife and i had a civil marriage. Neither of us were churchgoers. We also had a mostly private commitment ceremony but we weren't going to be hypocritical enough to attend a church long enough to have a 'wedding' and then stop going.

Have EVERYONE have civil unions to protect assets and then have a wedding in the church of their choice. Legally you are 'partners.' Further, expand 'partners' to greater than 2 consenting adults for all I care - there are many polyamorous people in the world.
 
IIRC Out-Q radio was saying the only way to get counted as a gay person --unofficially by other organizations that interpolate and extract data-- is to mark unmarried same-sex partners in the box. (Single gays don't exist, apparently).

Fred and I proudly marked unmarried same-sex partners on our census form. Finally weIn my opinion not filling out the census form is not only hurts you, but also your community and city.
 
Civil unions & marriage

I have heard that C.S. Lewis was actually married twice to the same woman. She was an American, and the first time was for "benefits" (mainly hers--this meant she could legally stay in England). Later, they realized she was more than a mere friend, and so they got married again in a religious ceremony so that they'd be married in the eyes of God, or, at least in the eyes of their best understanding of God.

It has long seemed to me that it would be best to have a civil ceremony for government granted benefits, and a religious ceremony, if desired, that reflects the needs of individual people and whatever church they may belong to.
 
I'll take the chance (risk?) and ask the question.......

Nothing underhanded and no ulterior motive - just simply a curiosity on my part. Any issue with having a conservative approach to issues here? I don't consider myself right wing (HC discussion excepted) but more towards the center albeit the right side of it - I'm definately more moderate than I used to be.

At any rate, just wondered..... realize that being on the right side of center puts me in a minority here in many, though not all, of the issues discussed outside of the vintage appliances that we all have a common interest in.
Do appreciate the (here's the word - lol!) tolerance here even with my more right take on things and the decidedly right take on the HC issue.

As to the census - yep we have ours and will be sending it in shortly..... not much to say about it from my standpoint - small household - just me, my wife, two dogs and a cat! Solidly middle class or so neighborhood (subdiv) where we live here in eastern TN. Got enough lumps so go easy guys... lol!!

Thanks!
 

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