If GE made filter-flos today, what would they look and sound like? What features would they have if they were to make a comeback? What would the fill, wash/rinse agitation and drain/spin sound like per cycle? What are your thoughts? I don't mean to hijack this thread if there is one.
If GE made filter-flos today...
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I would like to see the outer tub swing with the inner tub. It would reduce the water usage. A Speed Queen style suspension system would be nice imo lol.
If GE put their mind to it they could build a washer that wins over hands down. Something like this with a recirculating pump, flume, ramp style agitator, continuous spray rinse cool down, mini basket and versatronic controls would be epic and not far off from economically feasible.
If GE put their mind to it they could build a washer that wins over hands down. Something like this with a recirculating pump, flume, ramp style agitator, continuous spray rinse cool down, mini basket and versatronic controls would be epic and not far off from economically feasible.
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While we're dreaming, why not just build a solid tub machine with a plastic tub instead of a metal and porcelain one? Then it would use much less water and make it spin 1000 rpms for shorter dry times. Then it might come close to meeting the standards set up for water usage. Capacity wouldn't be too large, but then top loaders can't hold as much as the larger front loaders anyway.
The Electrolux Wateraid from Australia had an almost solid tub with a recirculation system so the outer tub never filled completely. That saved some water and at the same time solved the problem of sand being held back in the tub. A separate filter pan could be easily added to that design. We discussed it here
http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?19410
but the pictures are gone. It's not longer on the market, seems like it wasn't a good washer, but the idea was great. Here's the manual with some pictures in it.
http://www.manualslib.com/manual/472676/Electrolux-Ewt606.html
http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?19410
but the pictures are gone. It's not longer on the market, seems like it wasn't a good washer, but the idea was great. Here's the manual with some pictures in it.
http://www.manualslib.com/manual/472676/Electrolux-Ewt606.html
in a way...GE already has that......HydroWave, with a 360 degree stroke...
one advantage to systems like this, is they adjust the stroke speed and length to the cycle and water level....
better fabric care as a small load would not require the same vigorous agitation as a full load....
just don't lose sight of the filter flo pans agitation stroke/speed is what makes that pan 'work' ......
would a manual filter be a big deal in todays market?...
one advantage to systems like this, is they adjust the stroke speed and length to the cycle and water level....
better fabric care as a small load would not require the same vigorous agitation as a full load....
just don't lose sight of the filter flo pans agitation stroke/speed is what makes that pan 'work' ......
would a manual filter be a big deal in todays market?...
While we dream about the sounds...
What would a full cycle sound like? Fill, wash/rinse agitation and spray rinse/final spin sound like as far as modern washers and dryers go? Would it have that signature clunk we all grew up with, or something more modern or even both added? For example, start of normal agitation/end of spin.
What would a full cycle sound like? Fill, wash/rinse agitation and spray rinse/final spin sound like as far as modern washers and dryers go? Would it have that signature clunk we all grew up with, or something more modern or even both added? For example, start of normal agitation/end of spin.
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That would work. I think it was kind of silly to make all the washers with perforated tubs anyway. The dryer is what gets most of the sediment and such out anyway. It uses more water to have a perforated tub.
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Perforated Tubs
Is this not what is necessary for good water extraction?
I remember a day when Speed Queen had a solid tub, and were always being down graded in testing for poor water extraction and sand disposal. GE always ranked a the top. Maytag somewhere in the middle.
Is this not what is necessary for good water extraction?
I remember a day when Speed Queen had a solid tub, and were always being down graded in testing for poor water extraction and sand disposal. GE always ranked a the top. Maytag somewhere in the middle.
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Well, Frigidaire had solid tubs till the 70's and they were always top rated for water extraction. I think it actually just had to do with the different machines. I know the speed queen washers in laundromats had a higher spin speed than those for home use too. Sand disposal was bad, but how much sand does the normal person get in their wash? I would just shake out my clothes before washing them anyway, if they had sand in them.[this post was last edited: 6/16/2016-12:46]
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Didn't Frigidaire have a much faster spin speed though?
Sand disposal test was meant to see how well the machine disposed of solids in the wash water. For a while in my college years I used Speed Queen solid tubs at the Laundry. There was never a time that there was not residue, be it sand, lint, hair left in the tub at the end of the cycle.
At home we had GE FF until 1995, If I could buy a new one like in the olden days, I would buy it in a minute.
Sand disposal test was meant to see how well the machine disposed of solids in the wash water. For a while in my college years I used Speed Queen solid tubs at the Laundry. There was never a time that there was not residue, be it sand, lint, hair left in the tub at the end of the cycle.
At home we had GE FF until 1995, If I could buy a new one like in the olden days, I would buy it in a minute.
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Yes, Frigidaire did have a faster spin speed. That is pretty much what makes the difference in how dry the clothes spin out. In the beginning, GE solid tub washers had a high spin speed too. As far as solids left in the tub go, the dryer always shakes anything left out of the clothes anyway. If you line dry, you shake the clothes too before hanging them. Even perforated tub washers leave some residue too. Only front load machines get rid of all the sand or sediment. I just thought it was a shame they did away with all the solid tub machines. They really did use less water and did just about as good a job. With most solid tub machines you didn't have to worry much about the tub seal going out either.
