I've been thinking about this. What would it be like if SQ made a Dishwasher? What would it be like? How would it look? How would the wash mechanism be designed? Would it be about Speed?
If Speed Queen made a Dishwasher
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it depends on the year...
If it was 2018, it would have a fan-shaped lawn sprinkler standing still and the whole dishwasher would turn. LOL
Speed Queen would also open a new job position: Review Deleter
If it was 2018, it would have a fan-shaped lawn sprinkler standing still and the whole dishwasher would turn. LOL
Speed Queen would also open a new job position: Review Deleter
pierreandreply4
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pretty sure if speed queen Huebsch in canada
pretty sure if speed queen Huebsch in canada made dishwashers they would resemble the bosch line of dishwashers or the old westinghouse design dishwashers credit to aw members pics i am using for the westinghouse design dishwashers
pretty sure if speed queen Huebsch in canada made dishwashers they would resemble the bosch line of dishwashers or the old westinghouse design dishwashers credit to aw members pics i am using for the westinghouse design dishwashers
I like what I'm seeing. WH with some good improvements would be nice.
I wonder
what speed queen dishwashers would sound like if they made them?
what speed queen dishwashers would sound like if they made them?
neptunebob
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I wonder what would happen if Hobart made a home dishwasher.
But there is probably a non-compete agreement that prevents them from doing so even if interested. But it would be all stainless steel and much faster than the Whirlpools that KA is now.
But there is probably a non-compete agreement that prevents them from doing so even if interested. But it would be all stainless steel and much faster than the Whirlpools that KA is now.
If Speed Queen made dishwashers...
It would have a powerful dishwasher system that surrounded the dishes in a storm surge of water like a category 5 hurricane. No dish would escape its torrent of water. Not even burnt-on messes would stand a chance. It would have the best washing and drying system unlike everybody else. It would have the detergent and rinse aid dispensers ever, built better than anybody else in the industry. Of course, it would have stainless steel all over, even the wash arms.
It would have a powerful dishwasher system that surrounded the dishes in a storm surge of water like a category 5 hurricane. No dish would escape its torrent of water. Not even burnt-on messes would stand a chance. It would have the best washing and drying system unlike everybody else. It would have the detergent and rinse aid dispensers ever, built better than anybody else in the industry. Of course, it would have stainless steel all over, even the wash arms.
Welll, I'll admit I turned down my mother-in-law's offer to take her Speed Queen-built Amana washer and dryer and don't see too many SQ's or haven't seen to many in my area or in my time... I don't even pantamime them...
Happy with my Samsung dishwasher as well as my Samsung range, otherwise give me a Modern Maid of the former and latter or a Modern Maid of the latter, then it'll be a Speed Queen for dishes/kitchenware/servingware/eatingware...
-- Dave
Happy with my Samsung dishwasher as well as my Samsung range, otherwise give me a Modern Maid of the former and latter or a Modern Maid of the latter, then it'll be a Speed Queen for dishes/kitchenware/servingware/eatingware...
-- Dave
panasonicvac
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IF they made dishwashers, I'd imagine they'd be as big as the commercial Hobart ones for example. But honestly, why should they? Unlike most other companies, I really like that Speed Queen is only focused on making laundry products. That's what I think makes them special and one of the reasons why I'd buy one. At one point when I first discovered SQ that they were owned by the same company who makes Filter Queen vacuums since they both use Queen in their names. But I'm glad they're not even though I think it would've been cool and interesting.
michaelz08
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Entering a new appliance market is difficult and expensive…
… and probably not worth their time. Speed Queen is a brand that you’ve either heard of and have strong opinion on, or haven’t. They aren’t enough of a household name (anymore) to enter the kitchen appliances market.
Plus dishwashers must certainly be amongst the most difficult kitchen appliances to engineer, with so many moving parts and the expectation that they don’t leak water… and SQ would definitely have a 10+ year expectation hanging over their heads. They’d have to hire engineers away from other companies, tool up a lot of new manufacturing processes, and invest in years of R&D. This is a lot of cost to a company that probably can’t afford it.
And to what end? SQ laundry machines are expensive, they couldn’t introduce a high priced DW unless it was advanced like Miele or Bosch. The sorts of people spending 1.5-2K on a dishwasher don’t want them how they used to make them, they want to top in modern engineering.
If they did go through all this effort, it would probably have two racks, a tall tub, a large motor purely for marketing purposes, “commercial grade stainless steel” (marketing), and be as barely energy efficient as could be allowed. They would advertise the heavy cycle’s usage of 10 gallons per wash minimum. It would be relatively loud for current standards and only wash truly well on the Heavy cycle (lol). Delicate, Normal, Heavy cycles with High Temp and Sani Rinse options. Heat dry is mandatory on Normal and Heavy (no fan included to increase reliability). And they’d charge minimum 1.8k for it, only warrantied if you buy through a SQ authorized dealer. (This is clearly intended to be satire).
… and probably not worth their time. Speed Queen is a brand that you’ve either heard of and have strong opinion on, or haven’t. They aren’t enough of a household name (anymore) to enter the kitchen appliances market.
Plus dishwashers must certainly be amongst the most difficult kitchen appliances to engineer, with so many moving parts and the expectation that they don’t leak water… and SQ would definitely have a 10+ year expectation hanging over their heads. They’d have to hire engineers away from other companies, tool up a lot of new manufacturing processes, and invest in years of R&D. This is a lot of cost to a company that probably can’t afford it.
And to what end? SQ laundry machines are expensive, they couldn’t introduce a high priced DW unless it was advanced like Miele or Bosch. The sorts of people spending 1.5-2K on a dishwasher don’t want them how they used to make them, they want to top in modern engineering.
If they did go through all this effort, it would probably have two racks, a tall tub, a large motor purely for marketing purposes, “commercial grade stainless steel” (marketing), and be as barely energy efficient as could be allowed. They would advertise the heavy cycle’s usage of 10 gallons per wash minimum. It would be relatively loud for current standards and only wash truly well on the Heavy cycle (lol). Delicate, Normal, Heavy cycles with High Temp and Sani Rinse options. Heat dry is mandatory on Normal and Heavy (no fan included to increase reliability). And they’d charge minimum 1.8k for it, only warrantied if you buy through a SQ authorized dealer. (This is clearly intended to be satire).
Speed Queen dishwashers
Hi Michael, while I overall agree with your analysis that Speed Queen should not bother trying to build a dishwasher I do deferred a little bit on why.
Like you said a dishwasher is a tough thing to engineer and because it's a focal point of the kitchen people aren't looking for a heavy duty utilitarian Appliance like they do for a laundry room, while Speed Queen has such a great reputation for laundry appliances I think they could easily sell dishwashers, but they would be costly. They would have to be reasonably quiet, people are simply not gonna buy Noisi dishwashers today.
Yes, Speed Queen tries to require you to buy through an authorized dealer, but we have the same problem here with Miele , Miele even requires an authorized installer to get the full warranty and it hurts their sales a lot. Also the fact that nobody wants to work on them in the first place Again hurts Miele sales.
All that said, I do think there would be a significant market for a no nonsense durable, repairable dishwasher, but if we're to have such a thing, it's probably gonna come from whirlpool or general electric. They have the wherewithal to produce such a product if they wanted to.
John L
Hi Michael, while I overall agree with your analysis that Speed Queen should not bother trying to build a dishwasher I do deferred a little bit on why.
Like you said a dishwasher is a tough thing to engineer and because it's a focal point of the kitchen people aren't looking for a heavy duty utilitarian Appliance like they do for a laundry room, while Speed Queen has such a great reputation for laundry appliances I think they could easily sell dishwashers, but they would be costly. They would have to be reasonably quiet, people are simply not gonna buy Noisi dishwashers today.
Yes, Speed Queen tries to require you to buy through an authorized dealer, but we have the same problem here with Miele , Miele even requires an authorized installer to get the full warranty and it hurts their sales a lot. Also the fact that nobody wants to work on them in the first place Again hurts Miele sales.
All that said, I do think there would be a significant market for a no nonsense durable, repairable dishwasher, but if we're to have such a thing, it's probably gonna come from whirlpool or general electric. They have the wherewithal to produce such a product if they wanted to.
John L
Speed Queen Perfect Wash and Classic Clean dishwashers
And, let's just say that the Speed Queen Perfect Wash and Classic Clean models will have dishwasher detergent and rinse aid dispensers. They'd also have a pots and pans cycle as well as a sensor cycle. I don't care about style. I want clean dishes. Maybe they could fill that niche market.
And, let's just say that the Speed Queen Perfect Wash and Classic Clean models will have dishwasher detergent and rinse aid dispensers. They'd also have a pots and pans cycle as well as a sensor cycle. I don't care about style. I want clean dishes. Maybe they could fill that niche market.
substance over style
I'm going to say this, and it may make most angry. It would be nice if Speed Queen Appliances made kitchen appliances, including dishwashers. I don't care about how pretty they look. Besides, I just want dishes clean and dry properly. I want substance over style and flashy looks. Besides, it has only one job to do. Wash dishes. There are people who are like me out there that just want substance over style too. If Speed Queen made "ugly" dishwashers, so what? As long as it does what I ask it to do, I'm fine.
I'm going to say this, and it may make most angry. It would be nice if Speed Queen Appliances made kitchen appliances, including dishwashers. I don't care about how pretty they look. Besides, I just want dishes clean and dry properly. I want substance over style and flashy looks. Besides, it has only one job to do. Wash dishes. There are people who are like me out there that just want substance over style too. If Speed Queen made "ugly" dishwashers, so what? As long as it does what I ask it to do, I'm fine.
A hopeful marketing gain: A Complete SPEED QUEEN KITCHEN!!!!
A niche market can be an omnibus term...
There are those legions of loyal familiar brand buyers quickly dying off as their Sears and Wards are long becoming retailers of the past...
The rest are converts, adapting to the new brands that exhibit their varying quality but now stand as the zeitgeist...
Speed Queen is the last of the hangers-on, so in this case, to make anything to do your dishes as convincingly as Maytag had done starting in the laundry room, is to add on Speed Queen refrigerators and Speed Queen stoves...
-- Dave
A niche market can be an omnibus term...
There are those legions of loyal familiar brand buyers quickly dying off as their Sears and Wards are long becoming retailers of the past...
The rest are converts, adapting to the new brands that exhibit their varying quality but now stand as the zeitgeist...
Speed Queen is the last of the hangers-on, so in this case, to make anything to do your dishes as convincingly as Maytag had done starting in the laundry room, is to add on Speed Queen refrigerators and Speed Queen stoves...
-- Dave
quality
Dave, I completely agree with you. I think Speed Queen should put the exact same quality they put into their laundry and apply it to the kitchen and throughout the home. Imagine how many people would switch over immediately. What are the chances it could happen anyway?
Dave, I completely agree with you. I think Speed Queen should put the exact same quality they put into their laundry and apply it to the kitchen and throughout the home. Imagine how many people would switch over immediately. What are the chances it could happen anyway?
Selling a full range of kitchen appliances set the demise of Maytag. Instead of sticking to what they did the best, they brought in crap branded Maytag stoves, refrigerators, etc. People thought that Maytag name meant quality, but soon found out those were junk. Speed Queen probably makes the best laundry products in the world and I would not want to see them be sold off to some crap foreign company.
I agree, and I think what absolutely sealed their fate was Maytag trying to mass compete with the Whirlpool/Kenmore washer lineup. Super capacity tub washers at an economical price on one end, overly ambitious high end laundry on the other. What resulted was break down after break down which spread via word of mouth. Maytag didn't have the reliability to compete with Whirlpool, they were not cheap enough to take GE's and Frigidaire's economy market, and they did not offer enough to win the exotic market over like Bosch and Miele. Their Neptunes were good wash-ability wise, I'll give you that. But the control board failures and mold were the last straw in an already ravaged company.
pierreandreply4
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if speed queen made dishwashers in 2025
i think if speedqueen made dishwashers in 2025 there basic model woiuld be like this front panel kitchenaid while topof the line models would be top door control hidden by the kitchen counter until dishwasher is open and 3 racks while basic 3 rack model would be with manuel clean filter while top control would have self clean filter
i think if speedqueen made dishwashers in 2025 there basic model woiuld be like this front panel kitchenaid while topof the line models would be top door control hidden by the kitchen counter until dishwasher is open and 3 racks while basic 3 rack model would be with manuel clean filter while top control would have self clean filter
short/fast stroke
Let's not forget that GE, Maytag and Whirlpool all used short/fast strokes.
Let's not forget that GE, Maytag and Whirlpool all used short/fast strokes.
