If you had to choose...

[foraloysius]

I can understand the reluctance of buying a Miele in the USA. From all the things I have read about Miele, customer service is not op to par with the customer service you may expect from a company that sells such expensive machines. Miele's are way cheaper here and the service is excellent. That makes a difference. I guess it makes sense to buy a machine that is widely available and that is easy to get service for. It's like buying a Speed Queen in Europe, more expensive and customer service is more difficult to get.

There are work arounds for not having a water heater in a machine, but it's just not the same. A heating element not only heats the water but also maintains it for a certain amount of time. My Siemens keeps the temperature at 140F for an hour when the Allergy cycle is used to make sure that dustmites are killed.

Not every machine here has it, but mine has a stain option that heats the water first to 105F or there about and maintaining it there for a while and then heats it up to a higher temperature when selected. In that way the enzymes can do there work best and later in the wash cycle the oxygen bleach can do it's work better when the higher temperature is achieved.

 

[combo52]

Reply #37

The Miele is a very good washer, But way too small for washing king sized comforters etc, I though one of your stated needs was to be able to wash large items and loads.

 

The SQ FL washer does a MUCH larger load than their TL washer, When you compare capacity of a FL to TL washer you can actually wash twice as much laundry properly in the same size tub in a FL machine.

 

John L.

 

[vacerator]

Samsung horror story;

Son and fiance' bought a new house, and Samsung top load laundry pair from Best buy. Upon delivery, the dryer had a smashed corner. It was replaced. The washer had an error code and wouldn't spin at all. Took a month for service. A new nother board was ordered. No response for 10 days, upon which they were told no part available, so an authorization for machine replacement was sent. Another 2 weeks go by, and nothong. After calling Samsung, they were told "no inventory".
So they had an option of a full refund, but then the washer would not be picked up, and they had to dispose of it. The other was Samsung credit, or Best buy store credit, which they chose.
They selected an LG high end top load washer, and an LG dryer with a two way door that opens sideways, or swings down. The Shizzsung dryer was picked up with the washer.

 

[aquarius1984]

While I know the comment about water heaters / hot water supplies was only from
An attention seeking troll id just like to point out to the better members of this forum that this is not the case at least here in the UK

Running hot water supplies in both kitchens and bathrooms is the absolute norm here.

Only in certain applications are individual above sink water heaters used. Usually when a cold supply is easily accessible but there’s no need for a proper boiler or it’s more awkward to route a hot supply from the main hot supply.

It is actually a legal requirement for rental residential homes and hotels/ accommodation/ care homes / businesses of all kinds to provide hot water in its bathrooms, and hand washing facilities no matter what kind of business it is.

Privately owned homes these days almost always have a hot water supply in some form however that home owner finds it convenient for them to install or use.

In fact when buying a house the methods of hot water provision will be pointed out by the estate agent and confirmed on a survey prior to house sale.

Sure you don’t need a private home to have hot water provisions but most people are not sadistic enough to relish cold water to bathe in, or wash dishes by hand or whatever. It is the norm in households and it’s safe to say that over 99% of UK homes will have hot water provisions at all the points of use required.

 

[bradfordwhite]

darn-it those washerland trolls AGAIN

....but there was a time.  With less than 50% having baths in 1950 that number didn't change overnight.

 

Automatic washers and dishwashers were in full production in the U.S. and other countries were not ready to use ones without a heater.

From what I've seen, only in the last 10 years have UK fallen in love with dishwashers the way the U.S. did in the 1970s.

 

Now if only UK could grasp the concept of WINDOW SCREENs, something the U.S. has had since oh-h-h..... The Civil War of the 1800s.

 

Oh those darn trolls. Those darn energy wasting trolls.

More than half of British homes don't have a bathroom – archive, 1950

21 March 1950: A Ministry of Works Survey finds Scottish homes are more likely to have bathrooms than homes in England

www.theguardian.com

 

[bradfordwhite]

1960 UK

In 1960 UK had total population of about 52 million.

 

If a "family" unit consisted of say 4 people back then, we do the math 5mill x 4 = 20 million people

 

It's not a crime that different countries have evolved at different rates.

 

It's also not a trolls fault..... OR is it?  hmmmmmm?

Five million families in Britain living in houses without baths – archive, 29 November 1960

29 November 1960: Despite the fact that most of these houses are also without hot-water supply and inside lavatory there is low take up for government grant scheme

www.theguardian.com

 

[bradfordwhite]

1992

A quick look at 1992 UK before we get back to the subject at hand.

 

This story was written of 1992 UK and not of 1962 U.S. 

I love it.

I actually weirdly like UK, once considered moving to this tiny island country. 

 

Only in 1992 were Brits beginning to accept the concept of taking showers.

And there were other concerns I hadn't heard of that being unreliable and weak water pressure.

 

I still remember watching several UK shows from the 70s and 80s that reference the tank in the attic.  Specifically 1980s "To the Manor Born" where they had to deal with the finding of a bird that died in their water tank and Penelope's character says something like "....I have to bath in that water"   eww.  An OPEN tank.   

Unheard of.

 

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Now back to the washing machine search show.

https://www.nytimes.com/1992/01/23/garden/english-bathrooms-out-of-the-closet.html