I'm heartbroken...

[fluidriver]

My Simpson Fluid Drive, model 048, which I spent months rebuilding a few years ago (see previous posts) developed a drip. "No problems" I thought - maybe tighten a clamp or the pump housing, but on further investigation, I found, to my horror, that the drain hose, which was NOS when I replaced it, is perished... Lots of leaks, and I suppose this is because it's 45+ years old, and subject to a fair bit of strain.

A previous model had the same thing happen, and I couldn't remedy it, or find any replacement, so the rebuild of this one I thought would outlast me... I'm loath to buy a new machine, but unless there is a decent replacement for this vital part, I may have no choice.

Is anyone able to offer me any hope?

I'm in South Australia, but there may be some replacement somewhere in the world...

 

[retro-man]

I am sure somewhere in the world there are parts that can be used to fix this issue. The best thing to do is take a picture or two and post it here and i am sure someone will have the parts or can obtain them for you.
Jon

 

[tomturbomatic]

Where I pick up parts, they stock drain hoses with graduated, flared ends . You simply use the size that matches the machine's discharge port. If having a stock drain hose is not of utmost importance to you, it seems that a suitable drain hose should not be a showstopper or deal (or heart) breaker. The hose is gray and of ribbed vinyl construction.

 

[gizmo]

is this tub-to-pump hose, or the pump to sink hose?

 

[yogitunes]

many models of Simpsons are close to Speed Queens designs........but just the same, most any hose can be replaced with a few modifications....don't give up hope yet.....

post a few pics of the one you need

 

[fluidriver]

Emotional?!

Apologies for my previous statement - heartbroken was a bit over the top, but I was contemplating the demise of one of my favourite appliances...

I've included a photo of the drain hose - from bowl to pump - in situ. It's about 9" high with a bend of less than 90 deg, 2" internal diameter at the bowl end, and 1" internal diameter at pump end.

I have a similar hose from the previous model I mentioned, which is only about 5" high - will put a photo in another reply.

Cheers, Alan

 

[fluidriver]

Drain hose from previous model

As you can see, is a fair bit shorter, but the top and bottom are the same size.

The problem appears at the ?corrugations and this one also split vertically at what appears to be a casting join.

Looking forward to all replies.

 

[lancethecook]

I had a similar problem

I found in a British hardware store (b and q) a hose about 9 inches long and corrugated in it's total length except for say and inch at each end. I suppose it is made for waste water plumbing as it is in that section. Although it is quiet stiff after two minutes in a pan of boiling water it softens up very much and is very easy to stretch and pull both in length and girth.
May be an idea to try your local building /plumbing merchants to see if you can find one or if all else fails let me know and i will send one to you.
Good luck
Lance

 

[yogitunes]

I would use the short piece you got to connect to the tub, and then with a connector and another short piece of hose, plus a few clamps, continue to the pump....

may be not the best setup, but it will get you going again.....sometimes we have to improvise!......

on SQ theres is a port at the bottom of the tub to slide a hose on and clamp, and then straight to the pump.......on your Simpson, your hose is sealed to the tub....simplest fix right now is to use the short one you have and go from there......otherwise, another configuration would have to be done, and more intensive work....

 

[jetcone]

Interesting how that

is a BEAM machine yet it is under a square outer tub. Those Beam's got everywhere.

 

 

[jetcone]

I would take out the hose

then glue a flange from the inside of the wash tub , so from now on you could just use simple straight hose to the pump. That would be a permanent solution.

 

 

[fluidriver]

Yes, points taken

I will fabricate a replacement!

But first, some questions:

1. What material should I use? A quick look in the plumbing dept at Bunnings (big Aussie hardware chain) has galv (obviously not good), brass and plastic fittings. I would imagine brass would be best, but maybe plastic will be easier to work with.

2.If I can't get a flange which sits flat/flush inside the bowl, it won't drain completely - will this be a problem?

3. Will garden fittings be OK? There seem to be a heck of a variety of them, and may possibly fit the bill. I'll try and find some ribbed hose for auto purposes.

4. Glue or screw with gaskets? I guess it depends on what I can find.

Please let me know how other have worked out.

Cheers, Alan

PS the shorter hose shown is similarly perished and leaky...

 

[yogitunes]

not sure whats available for your area.......but even something simple as a drain for a bathroom/bar sink, find one small enough to fit the hole in the bottom of the outter tub, and just like installing in a sink, use plumbers putty(or sealant) on the top side, and the rubber seal with the nut goes on the underside, hook your hose to that, and then to the pump........your outer tub should already have a slight tilt to it, to direct water to the port...

a few members with solid tubs don't even use the pump, instead a hose is directly hooked to the tub and right to a gravity floor drain.....this eliminates much of the water left in the outter tub, causing rusting problems in the future....always keep your lid open after use to let the unit dry out as much as possible.....even on my SQ's, I even keep a small plactic cup to prop my lids open, just for air circulation....

let us know how you make out