Incandescent Lamps

[beadsobleach]

Just read somewhere that Incandescent lamps will be phased out within 10 years. Could this be my retirement? Start hoarding cases of soft-whites, 3-ways etc. and selling them at a profit later? Will there be a site for filament freaks in the future? Any thoughts?

 

[maytagbear]

Well,

I have yet to find a flourescent compact enough to fit in the lamp socket of my Maytag LDG9806.

Lawrence/Maytagbear

 

[sudsmaster]

I'm a big fan of CFL's - it only makes sense to save 75% on lighting bills. However, there are some applications for which incandescents cannot really be replaced - such as oven lights. They seem to work better in refrigerators/freezers as well.

Eventually even CFL's will give way to LED lighting. But progress seems to be painfully slow on that front. While LED's might work ok in fridges, incandescents will still be needed for oven lights.

 

[mattl]

I have a real problem with this. At one point several congress people submitted a bill to outlaw incandescent lights! I'm about as liberal as they come but no one is going to take away my lighting! I've invested $$$ in recessed lighting throughout my home, and the only lights i like in them are halogen spots. I base my design on "pools" of light, light is as much a design feature for me as is color and texture.

There is nothing I hate more than those soft diffuse tungsten floods except for the ugly light from a compact florescent flood. I have no problem with using CFs but they have to fit the application. I have 4 23 watt units in my lamp posts around the yard. In that application they are fine, but they have no where near the life that is claimed, 2 years tops.

LEDs are coming along nicely, but again the color rendition is poor at best now. "White" LEDs and really sort of a neoney blue. I think ultimately a combination of CF and LED could generate a point source light with many of the characteristics I'm after.

Perhaps I'm unusual but lights has a great effect on me. I hate going into Dr. offices that have dim cool white Fl, lighting. Warm white is my favorite, in my office I've relamped all the overhead fixtures with warm white tubes, about 40 tubes. About 10 years ago my local superstore relamped with warm FL lighting and it made the whole store more pleasant but for some reason they replaced all the lighting with cool white last year, now I dislike shopping there.

See, I can be just as opinionated and obsessive about lighting as some here are about laundry equipment!

 

[tolivac]

where is it mentioned that incandescent lighting equipment is to be phased out?didn't know this was going to happen in the US.there is just to many incandescent lighting fixtures-are folks going to have to replace them?some may not handle CFL bulbs.I like Metal Halide and CFL-newer type flourescent lighting.I hardly use incandescent anymore.The yellowish light is hard on my eyes.Light from metal halide is more like sunlight.I also think at some point LED lighting equipment will replace SOME flourescent lighting but not all.I also like WW flourescent.You can get warm color light from metal halide as well.Its done by varying the halide composition in the bulb arc tube or phospors on the outer glass bulb like the phospors in a flourescent bulb.The reason the store replaced the WW bulbs is the CW ones are cheaper.a good compromise is 4000-4100K flourescent bulbs or MH bulbs.CW is 4500K I beleive.4000K bulbs is more white in color.4500K gets more blue tint.I also have aproblem with politicians trying to ban various things-same as with washers and such.Let the MARKETPLACE decide!!I am the one paying my electric bill-I or you should be able to choose whatever lighting equipment you want and serves your needs.The same with washers and dishwashers.

 

[whirlcool]

We switched over most of our lighting in our house to compact flourescent awhile back. In most rooms it works ok, but in our bedroom which has buttercream yellow walls, the compact flourescents make the walls look a very strange green. We went to a lighting store and asked the guys there why this happens. They sold us a set of "bright white" CF's and said that would fix the problem. It didn't. While it slightly reduced the green, it's still there. It seems in rooms that are painted white, the problem is not readily apparent. But in rooms that are painted in colors, you can really see the difference between night and day.
Also another thing I don't like about some CF's is a long start up time. In my home office I have a round CF I got at Ikea. It lights immediately, but takes about 30-45 seconds to get to full brightness. When I turn on a light, I want instant gradification!

 

[panthera]

teething problems

I doubt we will ever see a complete "Verbot" of all incandescent lighting for the simple reason that some of the laws which have already been proposed would outlaw newer technologies.
I mean, no one would really be so dumb as to outlaw a brighter, better cheaper light...oops.
Just remembered when the Americans were permitted to join the rest of the world in automotive lighting.
Down off me soap box, you're right. They very well are capable of legislating stupidity here.
Sigh.
(By the by, LED lighting is much cheaper over here than in the US as are inductive ranges...saw one yesterday (an induction range, I mean) for $399. Wonder why these things are so much slower in the US to catch on?)

 

[petek]

Ours are all CF now cepting for the fridge,oven,mw, range hood and the security light on the back deck. The garage and basement are all standard fluoresents. Just in the upstairs bedrooms,hall and bathrooms alone took 28 of them because of ceiling fans and vanity lighting etc, plus every closet has one or two. I love em and it does make a noticeable difference on your electricity bill.

 

[foraloysius]

I exchanged most incandescent lamps by CFL's, but there are some left in lights for which there aren't CFL's yet. I'm glad though that the more modern CFL's give a warmer light than the original ones. Overhere Philips sells a "Softone" series that come close to the color of incandescent bulbs.

 

[sudsmaster]

CFL's with outer glass envelopes - the ones that imitate "real" incandescent light bulbs - are by design slower to power up to full brightness. I surmise it has something to do with the outer glass covering and issues related to heat build-up. They are designed to run at higher tube heat and therefore take longer to warm up. The fastest CFL's don't have these fake light bulb coverings. On the flip side, the fake bulb CFL's are the ones that are usually rated for use in enclosed fixtures, because they can take the extra heat.

My favorite fluorescent light "color" is Daylight. It's hard to find in CFL's, though. In general what one should look for is color rendition, not so much color temperature. Personally I don't like the overly yellow "warm" tone to most CFL's. In the kitchen, bath, and garage, I want as close to daylight as it can get. Cool white is generally not great either, having lower color rendition.

 

[petek]

The Philips curly CF's come in daylight and they're very good for the kitchen etc. Made a huge difference over at moms. We tried both the regular and the dayight and the daylight won hands down. Brightened her kitchen right up from what it was.