Input on Miele Dishwashers

[richnz]

If you choose a Miele with a cutlery tray

Then consider how many steps it is from the tray (in the machine) to the cutlery drawer. Our machine is close to where the cutlery is stored and thank goodness as I am a bit hopeless in that it takes me 5 trips from the cutlery tray (knives, forks, spoons, teaspoons and odd items).

I insisted we follow the Blum idea of dividing the kitchen into zones and feel things are much better for it.



Perhaps if Miele made the cutlery tray removable in the future?

 

[retro-man]

I for one will never spend $2200.00 on a dishwasher. I don't care how pretty and TOL it is. I think people who spend this amount of money on a simple machine have more money than brains. I have 2 Whirpools that wash and dry perfectly for a lot less money. I don't see what all the fuss is over these overly priced machines that take hours to complete a cycle. I use the 1 hour cycle and everything comes out clean. The extra savings looks better in my account than theirs.

Jon

 

[countryguy]

I would never spend $2200 on a dishwasher either....my Miele was less than $1000 brand new....less than the KA I had previously. I like how quiet it is and it takes the same or even less time on some cycles than the KA did.

Gary

 

[xraytech]

Well I went to look at the dishwashers today, the floor models were just marked down to make room for new models. I originally wanted the Futura Classic, but the floor model was black. For just a little bit more I went up a step or two to a Futura Crystal that had some nice additional features, and I believe the water softener, it was on the floor in stainless and I felt it would look less out of place than a black one since I have brushed stainless handles on my fridge and the chrome trim on the range.
I can't wait until I can have plumbing and electric ran to have it installed.

 

[henene4]

Inside a Miele DW


Never new Miele had cycles that used both spray arms at once all the time... Looks like the Quick cycle to me.

 

[jerrod6]

Could be a quick cycle or the Turbo function, but when I bought my machine only two Miele models sold in the USA had the alternating spray arm feature, the rest used all arms at once, but that was 9 years ago.

 

[henene4]

Alternerting arms just seemed logical to me. But you're right about Turbo.

 

[aamassther]

The 6000 series models are on the Miele US website. The Lumen looks interesting, like a Dimension Plus with some Diamond features thrown in.

 

[jerrod6]

There are a ton of DWs on that site, more than they usually have. I downloaded the manual for the lumen 6905 or 6910.  They have the sound ratings in dbs instead of the Q 1 through 5.

 

There is no heavy soil, cheese or starch cycle like some of the older models, just pots and pans.  The filter and grates are to wash the grates and filters of Miele cooktops and exhaust fans.  I guess you could use this for other things but there is no way to tell what exactly these cycles are doing.  There is a clean machine cycle..something that is probably not necessary.

 

[logixx]

Filters and Grates - that's new. It's also interesting to see that the Normal cycle can adapt itself more to the soil level than the actual SensorWash cycle.

The Clean Machine cycle is imported from Europe, where we are continuously being told to use the low-energy, high-performance Eco cycle whenever possible. Since it only washes and rinses at 120F, grease can build up. Clean Machine is supposed to take care of that - preferably along with Miele's expensive dishwasher cleaner. As a safety net, the software has been adapted to also take care of too many low-temp cycles:

"If you mainly use low temperature programmes (below 50 °C), there is a risk of bacteria and unpleasant odours building up in the wash cabinet. To prevent this happening the dishwasher will automatically increase the temperature in the final rinse of the selected programme after several programmes using low temperatures have been run." (Miele UK, dishwasher manual)

 

[jerrod6]

The change in the Normal cycle may be due to the USA Energy Star program that I think requires that if a DW has a soil sensor it must be used on the cycle that is used for the energy measurements, and that cycle must also be the normal everyday cycle. 

 

So I am guessing that the pots and pans cycle will also be used for heavy soil loads as well as cheese and starch...?