interesting map of electricity costs in the USA

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A week or so ago, we had a discussion for the benefit of European readers on the use of gas vs. electric dryers. I posted that when I bought my first home 19 years ago, the utility sent me a memo stating that it cost $1 to dry a load of laundry with electricity and only $.25 with gas (not sure if the 25 cents included the electricity to run the dryer, but the utility in question supplies both gas and electricity).

I found this map that shows the wide variation in prices of electricity in the USA, based on 2003 data:


As you can see, the cost (2003) varies almost three-fold, depending where one lives in the USA. My electricity supplier, SDGE (San Diego Gas and Electric) supposedly has the highest rates in California, as well as rates second in the nation only to New York City and Long Island (LILCO). So the figure for SDGE is probably higher than the rate for California as a whole.

I was amazed to learn in that discussion thread that 80% of the dryers sold in USA are electric. I do have a 240V outlet (never used in 19 years...) in my dryer area, but newer homes in our area are built with a gas line and 120V only, by city ordinance, to promote electricity conservation. Anyone who moves in with an electric dryer has to buy a new gas dryer, or else rip out the wall and have 240V installed.

If I ever bought a Miele washer, I could plug it in the 240V outlet, as long as I kept a non-Miele gas dryer (Bosch makes them for the US market). If I had a Miele washer AND dryer, I would need a second 240V outlet.

As you can see from the map, in many low cost areas of the USA, electricity probably costs the same or less than gas to dry a load of laundry. Where I live in California, however, most neighborhoods have gas lines and people generally choose gas models, even though the dryers cost $50-60 more than the matching electric models.
 
wow

TXU is charging me 13.54 cents per kilowatt now in Texas. Can't image how much my electric bill would be if I hadn't put in some insulation summer before last. The sad thing is, that since the rates kept going up, didn't see much difference in the bill. During the summer, i run between $300-$400 on electic usage, thank god for average billing!!!!!!
 
Miele makes a special box which plugs into a 240v outlet and splits it into two outlets, one for the washer, one for the dryer. Only costs around $250 but you can make something similar for about $20 in electrical parts. They come up on ebay every so often.
 
I want US prices too!

God Lord, that is waaay cheaper than here, I knew it was cheaper but not that much! In Italy the price for electricity is 0,23€/kWh that means 0,31 $ per kWh (give or take 5% depending on the utility company)
 
Ha! As an employee of a municipal utility (Seattle City Light) let me just say hooray for public power, and hooray for Franklin D. Roosevelt (Who championed the Bonneville Power Administration and Tennessee Valley Authority)

Our electricity is 3.76 cents per kwh for the first 10kwh per day, and 7.93 cents for each add'l hour per day, plus 10 cents per meter per day. My sister in Omaha (Omaha Public Power District) pays a similar rate. My mom in Council Bluffs, Iowa, pays somewhat more.
 
I find it hard to believe....

That (according to that graph, anyway) electricity cost more, way back when, than it does now. I never remember anyone from my youth complaining about their electric bill. Me? I'll complain to anyone who will listen about mine. =)

D
 
about $0.125 per KwH

My electric bill contains a usage charge and a fixed charge that covers the cost of operating the system other than actually the commodity costs to generate electricity. The commodity cost is about $.085 per KwH, but last month I paid $28 for 224 KwH, so it works out to about $0.125 per KwH here in San Diego Gas and Electric territory. About 2/3 of the bill is the commodity charge, and 1/3 the charge for the fixed costs of operating their system.
 
Electricity cost in Leverkusen/Cologne

We pay actually about 15,5 Euro-Cents which is almost 20,0 Dollar-Cents per kilowatt hour and they promised us to rise the price this year again!

Ralf
 
Nuclear power is cutting off your nose to spite your face. Anything with a highly toxic waste by-product that lasts three times the length of human history is a bad idea. If they could figure out a way to clean up that problem, however, I'd be all for it :-)
 
nuclear power

dj-gabriele: you are sooo right!!!
We pay millions of tax to substitute nuclear power of being competitive on the market!!
And: nobody< on this planet has any idea where to store the nuclear waste! No thank-you!!

Ralf
 
deceptive pricing

I should explain that many power companies in the USA have a two or three-tiered pricing system to encourage conservation. In my case, I am given a "baseline allowance" of about 268 KwH per month. As long as I use less than this amount, I pay about 12.5 cents per KwH. But if I go over 268, the amount above 268 KwH can be double or triple this amount. There was an article in our local newspaper about a family with a $600 per month power bill. They used about 1000 KwH per month, but when the power company began to double and triple the cost for KwH above the baseline allowance, their bill became very high very fast. I believe they had a large house (about 350 square meters), air conditioning, a pool with electric filter, lots of televisions and computers, etc. Basically a family with many toys and not even paying attention to electricity consumption. Then their bill becomes $600 a month and they go crying to the newspaper as if it isn't fair. They got what they deserved.
 
BUT I AM PRO NUCLEAR!!!! I'M A NUCLEAR ENGENEER!
I was just being sarcastic about the rising prices =equal= lack of nuclear plants!

Oh my!
BTW: France, UK and Japan actively recycle nuclear fuel, only USA decided to store it for the millennia to come.
 
I pay just under .06 per KwH but there's a "transmission" charge and a couple of other "gotcha's" on the bill which basically doubles it to around .12 cents. Still it's very reasonable I think.
 

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