autowasherfreak
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This is an interesting washer, not sure what country it's from Italy maybe, but I thought I would share it.
Interesting Washer Video I Found On Youtub
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This video is from Brasil. It shows a Lavina Westinghouse washer with an oscillating tub instead of an agitator.
This video is from Brasil. It shows a Lavina Westinghouse washer with an oscillating tub instead of an agitator.
Wow -Fascinating Machine
Rinsing & Drain - (Whilst Still Agitating)
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Rinsing & Drain - (Whilst Still Agitating)
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Lavadora lavinia
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Theres No Lazy water Action from this machine!!!, I wonder how it would do on large bedding & sheets etc...plenty of usable space, Its a Harmony on Steroids...
Theres No Lazy water Action from this machine!!!, I wonder how it would do on large bedding & sheets etc...plenty of usable space, Its a Harmony on Steroids...
No circulation or rollover-mostly VERY vigorous side to side action-for old time Lapidaries-that washer could power a large dragsaw-the large Jade boulders need to be slabbed!I one of the Lapidary books I have-an oscillating drag saw mechanism was shown made from a washers agitate function.
Now that we see the tub
I would trust to get my clothes clean and rinsed! Cool washer in a cool color! It looks older with the rounded corners too.
It has an odd fill, like a trickle.
To wash outdoors all year what a dream, you can hear the parrots and parrakeets all around!
Its a "Super Automatica"! I want a Lavinia!
I would trust to get my clothes clean and rinsed! Cool washer in a cool color! It looks older with the rounded corners too.
It has an odd fill, like a trickle.
To wash outdoors all year what a dream, you can hear the parrots and parrakeets all around!
Its a "Super Automatica"! I want a Lavinia!
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At first I was hoping for another Westinghouse ramp or straight vane video. But once I saw the empty tub, it blew my mind! I actually like this wash action, it looks like it could be very effective, but I am not to keen on it draining and washing at the same time. Neat machine! I wonder why they never made a design like that up here in North America?
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To wash outdoors all year what a dream,
That would make doing laundry more enjoyable, sitting in the warm sun listening to your washer, and the sounds of nature.
That would make doing laundry more enjoyable, sitting in the warm sun listening to your washer, and the sounds of nature.
I'll admit, that is a very unique design. It's as if they took a drum from a front loader, cut off the front part of the tub and stuck it on it's side.
Seeing the paddles scrape across the clothes kind of makes me go
... But wow, does that machine ever throw water around.. so it must be doing something right.
I saw a youtube video of a French washer which used this style of tub, but it looked as if the vanes were bolted onto the tub, rather than integrated into the tub like this machine.
I can't see this machine being all that effective with large heavy bulky loads like comforters though.
I find it interesting how there's one part of the cycle where the machine agitates without water for a fairly long period of time.. The poster has to manually advance the timer to skip that part. I wonder what the purpose of that is?
Regardless, it's interesting seeing machines like this which are indigenous to that specific country or area.
Seeing the paddles scrape across the clothes kind of makes me go
... But wow, does that machine ever throw water around.. so it must be doing something right. I saw a youtube video of a French washer which used this style of tub, but it looked as if the vanes were bolted onto the tub, rather than integrated into the tub like this machine.
I can't see this machine being all that effective with large heavy bulky loads like comforters though.
I find it interesting how there's one part of the cycle where the machine agitates without water for a fairly long period of time.. The poster has to manually advance the timer to skip that part. I wonder what the purpose of that is?
Regardless, it's interesting seeing machines like this which are indigenous to that specific country or area.
kenmoreguy89
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Well, I know these kind of washer (Lavinia) were sold only in Argentina and they were very common in the 60s there, a granma of a friend who used to live there told me of these washers without agitator and told of them quite bad as I think is normal to be.....I also seen in action a similar washer to a friend's house here in Italy who got this from an old house to sell at a Flea Market, it was a Zerowatt, they used to build and sell this kind of washer in Italy too, I've recently seen a video of 1950s castor (Italian) washer that had this kind of wash too, I will post the video if I find it.
These washers as expected did not have big success due to their poor washing results, in fact all the shacking you see is just "scene" yet so vigorous yet so unuseful as the clothes are not flushed through water but just caressed by the tub that splash water all over to the top inside and give you the idea of an effective and flushy wash action when actually it is not at all!
Nothing can do the job of an agitator!
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These washers as expected did not have big success due to their poor washing results, in fact all the shacking you see is just "scene" yet so vigorous yet so unuseful as the clothes are not flushed through water but just caressed by the tub that splash water all over to the top inside and give you the idea of an effective and flushy wash action when actually it is not at all!
Nothing can do the job of an agitator!
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kenmoreguy89
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Oh I also found a video of the same type of Zerowatt washer I was talking about on the same channel:
Bang on!
The video link you posted Kenmoreguy, that's the washer I was talking about. I have to admit that it is an interesting design but I can see why they moved away from that design to the much more conventional front loader or H-Axis machine.
The video link you posted Kenmoreguy, that's the washer I was talking about. I have to admit that it is an interesting design but I can see why they moved away from that design to the much more conventional front loader or H-Axis machine.
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@ Qualin
No that indigenous as you can think, Italy and some European countries did not always have FL's from the beginning..... during the economical boom in Italy the period when people started to bring the first appliances in their homes,refrigerators, radio, washers etc... it was around the 60s there were mostly agitator washers here in Italy, most wringer washer and twin tubs as they were anyway cheaper than a full automatic that was rare to be find also.
You can understand that even if in through an economical growth in the country most people managed to have a washer in their home only about during the late 60s and early 70s when wringer and twin tubs were mostly abandoned for automatics.......
Italy has started to produce FL's automatics because it was the most current and exclusively style that started to come from Germany and because of it equipped their factories to produce this kind of washer only then, Italian appliances industry copied and learned alot in the first years from USA, then unfortunately started to learn and "copy" about from Germany that was way more closer....
Miele used to produce agitator washer too in the early years that from my personal point of view were not well designed and did not provide a good washing due to their poor agitators, tub and strokes.
Italian agitators often were not as good as the washer from UK or USA as well, in fact if you see some videos of them you will understand why they had such a bad reputation here, their agitator used to have very flat ramps and very short and slow strokes.
With the exception of the "Candy Bi Matic" and the "Model 50" wich were the best agitator washers built in the Italian History.
Here is a little history: The Candy Modello 50 model was first presented in the Industry fair in Milan in the 1945, the first Italian washer, it was a wringer type very similar to a Maytag, it was the "after-war" period and people was way very poor, so it started to be sold widely just in the late 50s to rich people and they have never be known by the "folk" that much.
Then Candy started producing the Bi.Matic wich had also the spinner.
Then after this Candy opened the first branch in france and then started to be similar to the German manufacturer and started to produce only FL automatic washers due to it's collaboration with other european countries, especially france and germany and brought out FL's just when most people could get a washer.
There have never have been an Italian full agitator italian automatic.
I think the Castor washer of the video was an attempt to compete with Candy agitator washers.....
The Zerowatt the same....
Just for clearing things:
Agitator washers had for most people their bad reputation here just because of inability to produce as they should, poor quality and performance due to incapable manufacturers that limited themselves to "copy" things without "study" on them, and for the bad reputation that those upset drum type washer provided also, people looked at those type like "Top loaders semi automatics" icluded the impellers like "hoovers", did not care about the presence of an agitator a basket or an impeller, and then washers were a news for everyone.....people had no idea of differences, and also, as I said most people have never been able to know a real or good agitator washer over here, in fact most people managed to own a washer just when they produced only FL automatic washers.
So that is why here there're mostly FL's ....
Yes as you say it's easy to understand why they moved away from them, but I can say that it's not that they gained that much with the FL's ones though.....At least they were automatics.......
The avegare grade of cleaning reachable for italians and their machines never changed that much passing to FL's, wished they knew the real agitators washers as they must be.....
They're just now.........
No that indigenous as you can think, Italy and some European countries did not always have FL's from the beginning..... during the economical boom in Italy the period when people started to bring the first appliances in their homes,refrigerators, radio, washers etc... it was around the 60s there were mostly agitator washers here in Italy, most wringer washer and twin tubs as they were anyway cheaper than a full automatic that was rare to be find also.
You can understand that even if in through an economical growth in the country most people managed to have a washer in their home only about during the late 60s and early 70s when wringer and twin tubs were mostly abandoned for automatics.......
Italy has started to produce FL's automatics because it was the most current and exclusively style that started to come from Germany and because of it equipped their factories to produce this kind of washer only then, Italian appliances industry copied and learned alot in the first years from USA, then unfortunately started to learn and "copy" about from Germany that was way more closer....
Miele used to produce agitator washer too in the early years that from my personal point of view were not well designed and did not provide a good washing due to their poor agitators, tub and strokes.
Italian agitators often were not as good as the washer from UK or USA as well, in fact if you see some videos of them you will understand why they had such a bad reputation here, their agitator used to have very flat ramps and very short and slow strokes.
With the exception of the "Candy Bi Matic" and the "Model 50" wich were the best agitator washers built in the Italian History.
Here is a little history: The Candy Modello 50 model was first presented in the Industry fair in Milan in the 1945, the first Italian washer, it was a wringer type very similar to a Maytag, it was the "after-war" period and people was way very poor, so it started to be sold widely just in the late 50s to rich people and they have never be known by the "folk" that much.
Then Candy started producing the Bi.Matic wich had also the spinner.
Then after this Candy opened the first branch in france and then started to be similar to the German manufacturer and started to produce only FL automatic washers due to it's collaboration with other european countries, especially france and germany and brought out FL's just when most people could get a washer.
There have never have been an Italian full agitator italian automatic.
I think the Castor washer of the video was an attempt to compete with Candy agitator washers.....
The Zerowatt the same....
Just for clearing things:
Agitator washers had for most people their bad reputation here just because of inability to produce as they should, poor quality and performance due to incapable manufacturers that limited themselves to "copy" things without "study" on them, and for the bad reputation that those upset drum type washer provided also, people looked at those type like "Top loaders semi automatics" icluded the impellers like "hoovers", did not care about the presence of an agitator a basket or an impeller, and then washers were a news for everyone.....people had no idea of differences, and also, as I said most people have never been able to know a real or good agitator washer over here, in fact most people managed to own a washer just when they produced only FL automatic washers.
So that is why here there're mostly FL's ....
Yes as you say it's easy to understand why they moved away from them, but I can say that it's not that they gained that much with the FL's ones though.....At least they were automatics.......
The avegare grade of cleaning reachable for italians and their machines never changed that much passing to FL's, wished they knew the real agitators washers as they must be.....
They're just now.........
