Nate, I was gonna say the same thing. Roger has the same model. Somewhere around here is a couple of pictures of me and BobLoading at the 2006 or 2007 Tuscon gathering. Mind you, it's all DISHES and glasses, no bowls or other such things. Bowls, pans, and such got resserved for the KD18 in Roger's kitchen, ya know, the one with MULTIPLE wash arms, one under each rack!!!, where I don't have to think about where I'm gonna put stuff, just shove it in on that 18.