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Do they actually swear that much in Europe?

I didn't think so but I do agree with what you are saying. I would rather have your Chancheolor who needs to brush up on his communication skills than some one who doesn't know much at all. If nothing else he can make informed decisions about energy issues. I does make me cringe, though, when I hear an engineer for Westinghouse say it as "nukular". I heard that on a talk show once and an elderly woman caller who used to be an English teacher corrected him on that.

I find that I believe in a national health plan becuase I work in health care and find that many health workers feel the same way because the see the effects of people having no or inadequate insurance. If you have had to deal with an illness in your family you have had to deal with our health system too. The people who think what we have now must be incredibly healthy to not think this is an issue.

Panthera, if you were a parent, would you let your son or daugher go to 6 colleges for 6 years without some kind of intervention? I know I would not.
By the way, those big German pumps for New Orlean, were they by any chance made by Siemens?
 
I am not a Republician.

I felt the need to stress this point before I go and defend her again.

I was one of those students that took more than the traditional time to complete his education. I had two parents that became disabled within months of each other. One with cancer who later died, and the other with crippling arthritis. I had to work full time to keep food on the table and a roof over our heads, I then had to pay for a funeral. We never took welfare or foodstamps during this whole time. I had to attend classes when I could, it took me eight years but I did it.

We don't always know the situation that people must endure. Ms. Palin is the mother of five children. I don't know what her life has been like, but if it is like many new families there was some struggling. Maybe the lenght of time it took to get the degree is not as important as the fact that she did get it.

I mean it--call me a Republician and big juicy boogers.
 
I have to agree about the length of time to get the degree. As long as you get it..

My sister with a dreadful heart condition and severe crippling rheumatoid arthritis took years and years to finish her highschool and college but she managed in the end. It doesn't mean her papers are any less valid than someone who completed it in the proscribed time. Some people just cannot manage it for whatever reason.
 
I understand where you are coming from because my program wa

I am not running for office though and this had come out in the news and it appeared that she went to different colleges not because one of them was too hot, not because of a family crisis. I also say that how did Sarah's parents let this happen becuase if my daughter were having such difficulty I would find out why and correct the problem so that they could learn what they had to.

I am also afraid, as what happened to me, that if it takes so long to get a degree does it help your career at all? One school I went to was so mean and nasty it was like a bad movie, I'm glad I didn't get the degree from there. When I finally completed career training, I found it was too late to help much.
 
> My father always said that if someone swears it makes them look like they cannot express themselves without using swear words and makes them look uneducated.

Here's one for Neptunebob.

Sometimes Bob, one doesn't need education or nice language to get a point across. In fact those things can be more a hindrance than a help.

 
Even for the republicans, this

is going quite a bit too far.
Now the conservatives have filed a lawsuit to prevent a bi-partisan committee from completing its investigation of Palin's firing a civil servant for simply doing his job.
Sheesh - ok, conservatives, let's hear you defend this one as true-American and patriotic.
This is really, really scary.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/17/us/politics/17trooper.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
 
"The lawsuit, filed in the state’s Superior Court, comes as the McCain-Palin campaign has escalated its involvement in the bipartisan inquiry, providing Ms. Palin’s lawyer with help and mounting a public relations offensive."

...

"The lawmakers are being represented by a local lawyer, Kevin G. Clarkson, and the Liberty Legal Institute, which is based in Texas and has a history of taking up conservative causes."

...

"State Senate President Lyda Green, a Republican who has frequently clashed with Ms. Palin over policy, said the lawmakers who filed it were all “step-by-step followers” of Ms. Palin."

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"The attorney general told lawmakers Tuesday that members of Ms. Palin’s administration who had been subpoened would not cooperate with the investigation."

...

"A person briefed on the campaign activities in Anchorage also said outside lawyers in coordination with the campaign had volunteered legal advice to Ms. Palin’s lawyer. One volunteer is currently in Anchorage, and one or two others have been here to plot legal strategy over the past few weeks, the source said. Taylor Griffin, a campaign spokesman, declined to identify the lawyers by name."

Eeeeeewwww. Now this is CHANGE!

http://www.libertylegal.org/default.aspx
 
I know some here will hit me hard for this...

But we need to drive a stake through Palin's heart so she doesn't resurrect in 4 or 8 years. She typifies everything I hate in politics and the R's love. I've read a number of articles about how the neocon's love her because she is a blank paper and they can mold her into what ever they want, and she is pathetic and power hungry enough to let them.

Bring out every big gun and grind her to dust now to protect future generations.
 
It turns out that the Schlockey Mom who is just like us wore a Valentino jacket the night of her big speech that cost $2500. I'm pretty sure they don't sell couture at Wal-Mart, so maybe Cindy lent it to her?

So much for her folksy schtick. Are they so contemptuous of us that they feel they can throw anybody up on a stage, have them toss out a few corny jokes and tired cliches, and become a "statesman"?

http://www.hollyscoop.com/sarah-palin/sarah-palin-is-a-hockey-mom-in-valentino_17670.aspx
 
Dan asks: Are they so contemptuous of us that they feel they can throw anybody up on a stage, have them toss out a few corny jokes and tired cliches, and become a "statesman"?

Yes, Dan. Yes, they are. The truly frightening thing is that half the country fell for it.

I saw the same thing happen in Minnesota, when Jesse Ventura was elected governor. People were caught up in his "not one of them", brash persona and glossed over the obvious evidence that he would not make a good governor. Guess what? He wasn't.

And just as most people, in their heart of hearts, know creationism isn't a matter of fact, but one of faith (even though they say otherwise when polled), I have to hope that many who are caught up in Palinmania can't seriously believe she's presidential material.

It's become very obvious she was brought in soley to re-energize the Republican base and take advantage of the vacuum left by the absence of Hilary Clinton from the Democratic ticket.

A few months after the election, we'll be hearing all about how McCain was pressured from within the party to choose Palin rather than Romney, Pawlenty or even Lieberman, all of whom were on his short list.
 
The money train is head the Republican way now that the Baroness de Rothschild has switched allegiance. My guess is she's a closet lesbian at least that should be the rumour. Since Hilarys out of the pic she's moved on to the next woman.
You heard it hear first.
 
Actually, I did not mean to be critical of people who take l

as Penn State is one of the worst offenders of that, so much so that Governor Rendell wanted to know why. So I'm sorry if I offended anyone. I think I was just wondering about the subjects more so than the time line.

I guess the point I am trying to make is that someone who is a leader in the most powerful country in the world, it would help them make informed decisions if they had knowledge about subjects like social studies, geography, sciences, and health sciences becuase so many of our issues involve those subjects.

Unfortunately, you don't get any of those classes in an MBA degree and I think that is one reason our nation may be in the situation we are in. Unfortuantely, everyone I know of who has an MBA is an abrupt grouch.

Maybe Mr. Spock would be a good VP candidate, but we already have Rich here who I am trying to recruit. Please Rich, run for VP!
 
This is too good to pass up...

Palin linked electoral success to prayer of Kenyan witchhunter

"The pastor whose prayer Sarah Palin says helped her to become governor of Alaska founded his ministry with a witchhunt against a Kenyan woman who he accused of causing car accidents through demonic spells.

At a speech at the Wasilla Assembly of God on June 8 this year, Mrs Palin described how Thomas Muthee had laid his hands on her when he visited the church as a guest preacher in late 2005, prior to her successful gubernatorial bid.

In video footage of the speech, she is seen saying: “As I was mayor and Pastor Muthee was here and he was praying over me, and you know how he speaks and he’s so bold. And he was praying “Lord make a way, Lord make a way.”

“And I’m thinking, this guy’s really bold, he doesn’t even know what I’m going to do, he doesn’t know what my plans are. And he’s praying not “oh Lord if it be your will may she become governor,” no, he just prayed for it. He said “Lord make a way and let her do this next step. And that’s exactly what happened.”

She then adds: “So, again, very very powerful, coming from this church,” before the presiding pastor comments on the “prophetic power” of the event."

Read the rest it's funny and scary.

http://timesonline.typepad.com/uselections/2008/09/palin-linked-el.html
 
Sarah Palin's wasteful ways and her "Bordello"

She poses as a fiscal watchdog, but when Palin was mayor, she grabbed city funds to give her office a pricey "bordello" makeover.

Sept. 17, 2008 | WASILLA, Alaska -- Sarah Palin has been touting herself as fiscal watchdog throughout her political career. But Palin's tenure as mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, was characterized by waste, cronyism and incompetence, according to government officials in the Matanuska Valley, where she began her fairy-tale political rise.

"Executive abilities? She doesn't have any," said former Wasilla City Council member Nick Carney, who selected and groomed Palin for her first political race in 1992 and served with her after her election to the City Council.

Four years later, the ambitious Palin won the Wasilla mayor's office -- after scorching the "tax and spend mentality" of her incumbent opponent. But Carney, Palin's estranged former mentor, and others in city hall were astounded when they found out about a lavish expenditure of Palin's own after her 1996 election. According to Carney, the newly elected mayor spent more than $50,000 in city funds to redecorate her office, without the council's authorization.

"I thought it was an outrageous expense, especially for someone who had run as a budget cutter," said Carney. "It was also illegal, because Sarah had not received the council's approval."

According to Carney, Palin's office makeover included flocked, red wallpaper. "It looked like a bordello."

Although Carney says he no longer has documentation of the expenditures, in his recollection Palin paid for the office face-lift with money from a city highway fund that was used to plow snow, grade roads and fill potholes -- essential municipal services, particularly in weather-battered Alaska.

Carney confronted Mayor Palin at a City Council hearing, and was shocked by her response.

"I braced her about it," he said. "I told her it was against the law to make such a large expenditure without the council taking a vote. She said, 'I'm the mayor, I can do whatever I want until the courts tell me I can't.'"

READ that last line again-----She said, 'I'm the mayor, I can do whatever I want until the courts tell me I can't.'"

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/17/palin_mayor/
 

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