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kenmoreguy64

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I have a long but somewhat amusing story for everyone that I want to share. After having 20-some washers stolen last fall from my storage trailer, I told myself that I could replace a few of them with "new" stuff as I found things worthwhile.

Back a couple years ago, I connected with a seller on ebay who was selling new and used BD parts. He's in Arizona, and it didn't take long for me to find out that his washers are phenominal as compared to what we often find around here. So, before long, rather than buying parts from him only, he was saving whole machines for me. He loves that I like the belt-drives, so he saves them for me when they come into his shop. What I love about the machines is their almost complete lack of rust, which as we all know makes restorations so much easier and more fun. This is similar to why car buffs like Arizona cars.

Anyway, what I've done in the past is ship the washers to a vendor of mine in Phoenix where they store them temporarily in their plant for onward shipment to NC (or for pick-up by the Kevins of AW.org - which is where his Country Squire Whirlpools came from). We buy materials from this company for our two manufacturing plants. When the vendor ships, there is almost always a little room on the trucks and the washers travel for free, no harm no foul, right? NOT ALWAYS.

DRUM ROLL PLEASE MEISTRO>>>>>>

Well, in early March, my buddy called and had a haul of machines that had been building up for 6 months. I would have passed on them had the trailer not been robbed, but I said "Sure!" and was very interested in a couple particular machines.

I paid to have the washers trucked the 60-some miles to my vendor, and they were there for a couple weeks until they had a rush order to get out to a customer on a JIT (just in time) basis near their other plant. So, they shipped the rush order along with some transfer stuff to their east coast plant, and my washers. The freight charge on the order paid for the truck basically, so the washers again rode for free.

BUT, the truck wasn't near full, and this raised suspicion when the truck arrived at a weigh station at the Arizona state line. Immediately, the authorities asked the driver where the drugs were hidden. He said "There are no drugs in this load!!" and they immediately hand-cuffed him and put him in a cruiser for over four hours. Seems they could not fathom that someone would pay a full truck to go halfway across the country with a few skids of plastic materials and a smattering of old washing machines!!!! DUH, LOL.

So, since the driver was no help, they decided to "inspect" the machines. Where was the drug sniffing dog? That's what some have asked, including me. So, they "dug" into one of the machines as you can see.

This is a 1982 Kenmore 500, bleeding. Yes, that is transmission oil on the floor of the truck.

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Anyone who knows me will tell you that I don't cuss much, which is good in some ways because when I do, it gets noticed, LOL.

Well, the vendor was afraid to call me when they found out about this. Apparently the authorities got more and more frustrated as they dug into machines and found nothing. From what I know, eventually they just pryed open the backs of the control panels thinking that was the most obvious place to stache the goods....NOTHING was there, imagine that.
 
So, once the machines got to the east coast plant, the maintenance guy there who knows me started putting things back together, or at least collecting the parts so they could be re-assembled. He is not aware of my tenacity when I'm peeved, so he thought some were un-salvageable, and to some, perhaps they are.

But, the worst case seems to be the 82 500, which I wanted for several reasons. I got it and the gold machine here in Charlotte a week ago and am hoping to work on the 500 this long weekend. It is going to get a brand new transmission that I have, and hope to salvage the old one for parts. I have lots of spare transmission braces, pumps, etc. so I am hoping that nothing is bent on the baseplate. I have big plans for this washer, if nothing else than to recover from the 'pillage' as I've been calling it.

I will learn more as the rest trickle in here, but GEEEZ!

In case you're curious, we've filed a claim with the state as apparently they are liable since they found nothing. They tore into the poor driver's truck after the load bore nothing, so they could be paying for that too.

Would love to have seen their faces when after all that brutality, they came up empty-handed.

Gordon
 
This is unfortunate.

I can't judge the police involved who did this, but I've wondered about how some law enforcement departments whine about time/resources, and yet have time/resources to do things that don't matter or are incredibly stupid.

Is there something special about the 82 Kenmore 500?
 
Is there something special about the 82 Kenmore 500?

Yes, to me there is in this case. I had one back in 1992 or 1993 as a re-buildable, which was rare for 11-year old machines. Back then, the belt-drives sold themselves and I seldom had to advertise - word of mouth kept people coming for them, sometimes at a faster pace than I could keep up with.

Most of the washers I could get my hands on cheaply were mid-70s stuff or older, or were later model stuff that had been "rode hard". The '82 was free, and not a basket case, and I enjoyed everything about it except the 7-inch rip in the cabinet rear above the leveling legs. I had to put metal braces over the crack like butterfly bandages, and secured them with metal screws. It worked absolute wonders, but the dang screws shredded my arm and hand more than once when working on the machine.

BUT, I just enjoyed that machine and it's unpretentious basic-ness. 1982 models are rare due to the recession that was in full swing at that time, and this was the next one I saw. Since I acquired my 1979 500, I've wanted another.
 
Hmmm........

Gee, what ever happened to "Innocent Until Proven Quilty"??

It would seem that in Arizona (at least in this instance) the opposite is true.

That more then sucks Gordon! It's like being the victim of a burgerly, except they just damaged everything instead of stealing it!

So sorry my friend!
Kevin
 
One thing I should mention....

Look at the inside cabinet on the '82. It is covered with schmutz that comes from water leaking into the centerpost (those dang short centerposts). The water This is not unusual, but because of it I would have wanted to re-seal and re-bearing the centerpost (re-seal it for sure anyway, maybe not the bearings) and would have wondered about the gearcase. This way, I have no choice but to deal with it all the way.
 
BUT, I just enjoyed that machine and it's unpretentious

I've been battling with 1969 or so 500 that really impressed me when it last worked. It did a good job washing clothes. It was basic, but had all the features most of us would need or want. So what if the water level isn't infinite? The 3 choices were good enough--plus I could actually remember roughly where the water level reached with each choice, so I could choose wisely. Missing second rinse? So what? Just advance the timer dial to the "rinse" setting.
 
Like some washer 'Slasher' movie...

We had talked about this earlier but the pictures really bring it home... OUCH!

So, is it true that the Arizona Highway Patrol is just a big bunch of Kenmore hating Pro Frigidaire zealots?

(Ducks and Runs!)

RCD
 
Great story Gordon! Gee I can totally relate LOL You got any pictures of the cool bd's you got after you lost the trailer?
 
Have to be a little careful with comments on this one.....

Gordon, my FT job for 20 years has been with local city law enforcment here in town - I'm not an officer but work in the part of the department where they call in for DL status checks, stolen checks for cars, articles, want/warrant checks etc. A lot of the older, more sensible guys that were there when I started have retired - many were close to retirement when I started in 1990 meaning many of them came on the force back in the 1960s even late 50s. Point is that those guys had some sense about them and many were good officers and didn't just go on a tear everytime something/someone came by them.

Fast forward to the 21st century - the young guys and gals we have coming on the force these days are simply unbelieveable at times - 25-30 year olds that are still living their teens years and puberty out - the maturity level is astoundingly low or lacking. Some of these guys would cuff and car an old grandma letting her cat or dog out to do its business..... yes that's an a bit of an overstatment but the point is these guys, almost literally, will run and check out a person for being friendly and saying "Hi how's it going today officer?" Check everything that even breathes in their general direction and if it's not breathing then they pump it up long enough to see if it might be wanted or have a warrant. Yes we have some good sensible guys coming on to the force but they seem almost the exception rather than the rule - it's scary at times.

Now I'm being a bit on the silly side with all that but the guys coming into the deparment, in some cases, are a danger to themselves let alone the average citizen. I'm a little harsh but you just would not believe it and some of the AZ situation could have been some of that plus these guys live life looking over their shoulder and being suspiscious of anyone, anything and everything. I couldn't be an officer - I wouldn't last the first day. Well enough - I can't write anything short so stopping before this becomes a book!
 
Wow, that is awful what they did. I wonder how long it took for it to dawn on them that nobody would unseal a transmission or disassemble a console to hide drugs. I wonder how many cargo loads containing drugs passed through the checkpoint while the authorities were breaking open an oil filled transmission.

I hopr the washers have no serious issues as a result of this, and I hope you are compensated for the damages.

Have a good one,
James
 
Innocent until proven guilty...

So in the case where they obviously found no drugs and no reasonable cause to inflict such damage to personal property that was being transported legally, where is the responsibility for the damage that was done? Does someone that has gone through that kind of search and seizure just shrug their shoulders and move on? Or is there an avenue that can be taken to help ease the burden of having to repair or replace damaged items (not just washers but anything that could have been in that truck). The officers aren't required to put things back the way they found them if they're given the "all clear"? Seems to me there's a real lack of discipline and common sense, not to mention a sense of self awareness.

I'm so sorry this happened but goodness knows you'll have these looking and working brand new regardless. The 82' should be a fun one. I remember those in Sears. That was about the time I would be begging my parents to take me to Sears and let me wander around the maze of washers. Of course by then what made the plastic console machines unique was they were about the only ones left that didn't have a DA agitator. That made them automatically my choice. :-)

Congrats again on the nice finds!

Jon
 
Hey Jed - Here's one pic anyway. Other than these machines that were involved in the highway issue, I got the two machines from RedCarpetDrew (the green 900 pair and the white 1968 Kenmore). Those are still in-transit to Charlotte, and THANKS AGAIN Andy!!! I got another Avocado washer from Robert our webmaster, and it will soon be up and running. I did get this though, and it's the only other "trailer replacement" that I can think of. It's a cool 1970 Kenmore 70-series washer with a Roto-Swirl agitator.

Gordon

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