dynaflow
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A friend gave me a kenmore Catalyst top loader after it died it would fill then stop slight burning smell wont drain or anythin timer counts down then dies any suggestions?
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DirectDriveDave
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Sounds like a timer or motor problem.
But when you say the timer counts down then "dies" do you mean it stops at "OFF" or does it stop before that?
But when you say the timer counts down then "dies" do you mean it stops at "OFF" or does it stop before that?
dynaflow
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it
it stop and end of cycle
Sears lost money on that piece of crap that had a service contract on it over the yrs it had 3 transmissions , 2 motors, 3 mother boards in all a total of 8300 was spent on it
it stop and end of cycle
Sears lost money on that piece of crap that had a service contract on it over the yrs it had 3 transmissions , 2 motors, 3 mother boards in all a total of 8300 was spent on it
dynaflow
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electronic timer
is it a touch panel electronic control
is it a touch panel electronic control
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Sorry, my mistake, forgot the Catalysts were usually electronic control.
If the burning smell isnt coming from the control panel then maybe I would check the motor. Does the motor hum at all?
If the burning smell isnt coming from the control panel then maybe I would check the motor. Does the motor hum at all?
dynaflow
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yep
yes dont wanna trash it looks to good and when someone ask me if i have a old machine it would be good for that
yes dont wanna trash it looks to good and when someone ask me if i have a old machine it would be good for that
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Alrighty, then my assumption is that the motor went bad.
Another possibility, though I think less likely, is that the transmission locked up.'
But also wait to see if someone else can chime in here to see of maybe something else.
Another possibility, though I think less likely, is that the transmission locked up.'
But also wait to see if someone else can chime in here to see of maybe something else.
Also check the pump...something might be wound around the pump impeller.
The motor
Uses a start capacitor that could have gone bad.
Uses a start capacitor that could have gone bad.
dynaflow
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is that the
big circular thingy beside the motor
sorry for being so dense on this guys all help appreciated
big circular thingy beside the motor
sorry for being so dense on this guys all help appreciated
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Yep, that's the capacitor, it's like a black cylinder.
KM Catalyst Washer
These were indeed troublesome washers, I don't know any customers that still have one that is still running. I dare say you are correct that Sears lost money on many of these machines. We had a lot of them come in that people had given up on that were often just 3-6 years old and we would rob the the mechanical parts to fix a tired DD washers and dump all the electrical parts.
You probably have a motor, board, touch panel or motor controller problem, check it out but I wouldn't try fixing it unless you have free spare parts.
These were indeed troublesome washers, I don't know any customers that still have one that is still running. I dare say you are correct that Sears lost money on many of these machines. We had a lot of them come in that people had given up on that were often just 3-6 years old and we would rob the the mechanical parts to fix a tired DD washers and dump all the electrical parts.
You probably have a motor, board, touch panel or motor controller problem, check it out but I wouldn't try fixing it unless you have free spare parts.
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Hey Ron,
I just went through all this last fall on a beautiful Catalyst TL I adopted last fall. Sears was out numerous times trying to fix this machine, and for whatever reason, the main control board was overlooked repeatedly. Assuming that the transmission, pump, and motor components are in working condition (in my case they were and probably your case they might be), pop the end caps off the console and roll it to the rear of the machine. There is a connector P7 on the main board. On my machine, there was a problem with pin #2 on that connector. This is a white/violet wire on the harness side. Loosen the board up, and look on the back side of the board facing the touch pad and see if there isn't any signs of nuclear meltdown. In my case, it was a disaster on that pin #2. All the wiring and other components ok. I have been told that these machines are very prone to power surge/starvation damage. Surge from too much voltage (lightning strikes etc.) or starvation (overloaded circuits).
It might actually be possible that the tech sheet is still behind the console that can help you through a series of tests to determine which way you need to go. Follow the motor test sequence carefully if the sheets are there. If not, I'll get mine out and walk you through it, it's not that tough. Also, the sheets describe agitation/spin tests at various speeds. This is another area to pay attention to. In my machines case, it lost HI speed motor in agitate and spin. Otherwise everything was fine.
If you want to try troubleshooting this thing let me know. I could sit here for half an hour giving you ideas, but I can tell you it was a bit of a learning experience repairing this thing. I thought I knew everything when I started on this one, and trust me, no one does. I was alot smarter when I was done and now I have a beautiful machine to show for it. I'm curious to know if it was the motor start module they replaced, or the main board. Hard to tell which one I guess without the paperwork. But it would seem to me that somebody is replacing parts repeatedly for no reason and missing the root cause here.
Anyway, let me know what, if anything you would like to do. I am sure we can find out what the root problem is, it's just a factor of can we find parts to make a repair.
Walt
I just went through all this last fall on a beautiful Catalyst TL I adopted last fall. Sears was out numerous times trying to fix this machine, and for whatever reason, the main control board was overlooked repeatedly. Assuming that the transmission, pump, and motor components are in working condition (in my case they were and probably your case they might be), pop the end caps off the console and roll it to the rear of the machine. There is a connector P7 on the main board. On my machine, there was a problem with pin #2 on that connector. This is a white/violet wire on the harness side. Loosen the board up, and look on the back side of the board facing the touch pad and see if there isn't any signs of nuclear meltdown. In my case, it was a disaster on that pin #2. All the wiring and other components ok. I have been told that these machines are very prone to power surge/starvation damage. Surge from too much voltage (lightning strikes etc.) or starvation (overloaded circuits).
It might actually be possible that the tech sheet is still behind the console that can help you through a series of tests to determine which way you need to go. Follow the motor test sequence carefully if the sheets are there. If not, I'll get mine out and walk you through it, it's not that tough. Also, the sheets describe agitation/spin tests at various speeds. This is another area to pay attention to. In my machines case, it lost HI speed motor in agitate and spin. Otherwise everything was fine.
If you want to try troubleshooting this thing let me know. I could sit here for half an hour giving you ideas, but I can tell you it was a bit of a learning experience repairing this thing. I thought I knew everything when I started on this one, and trust me, no one does. I was alot smarter when I was done and now I have a beautiful machine to show for it. I'm curious to know if it was the motor start module they replaced, or the main board. Hard to tell which one I guess without the paperwork. But it would seem to me that somebody is replacing parts repeatedly for no reason and missing the root cause here.
Anyway, let me know what, if anything you would like to do. I am sure we can find out what the root problem is, it's just a factor of can we find parts to make a repair.
Walt
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minor correction
Sorry Ron, the problem circuit that grenaded itself was P7 #3. Blue/Orange. Also just FYI, the motors, wiring and control boards, are not necessarily common with the WP. versions. of this machine. There are three possible boards for KM models that I found, 4 possible motors, and 3 possible wiring harnesses. This all revolves around changes made during production of the machine. As I pointed out, we can give it a shot if you want to try.
Sorry Ron, the problem circuit that grenaded itself was P7 #3. Blue/Orange. Also just FYI, the motors, wiring and control boards, are not necessarily common with the WP. versions. of this machine. There are three possible boards for KM models that I found, 4 possible motors, and 3 possible wiring harnesses. This all revolves around changes made during production of the machine. As I pointed out, we can give it a shot if you want to try.
dynaflow
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thank you
walt will give it a try when i get a free minute
walt will give it a try when i get a free minute
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