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Big changes have happened with Kirby ever since the company was recently sold to another. Not only they're selling them online now than just door-to-door but they're also now selling them at retail stores like Costco. Thought anybody would get a kick out of this. Big shout out to Dysonman1 from vacuumland.org of taking this photo.

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I’m surprised that Kirby choose Costco as a retailer for their vacuums. They can’t possibly command the highly inflated prices at Costco that they received for their door to door sales of Kirby vacuums. Most Costco shoppers are extremely price conscious.

I wonder if the Kirby’s sold at Costco will be of the same quality as in the past?

Eddie
 
 

<span style="font-family: helvetica;">This doesn't surprise me.  In my experience, CostCo shoppers want high end items at really good prices.  Kirby seems like a fit.  I also wonder, if these will be of the same quality as you would get door to door.  Honestly, I didn't realize they still did door to door sales.</span>
 
 

Costco tends not to stick with merchandise that doesn't move.  However, I imagine they'll have plenty of demonstrations to effect sales for a while before giving up if people aren't buying.
 
Kirby’s may be heavy BUT will run circles around everything else on the market. There’s no comparison between a direct air and bypass vacuum since direct air vacuums have more airflow and carpet agitation and will literally pull flour through the backing on a carpet or rug. YouTube user VacLab has debunked the airflow vs suction since the high airflow vacuums always pulled a majority of the flour through the carpet backing while the bypass vacuums left a good amount of the flour behind. Couldn’t imagine how much dirt gets passed the carpet backing unless one has a high airflow vacuum like a Kirby or any other direct air vacuum made.
 
Actually there IS a comparison between a bypass and a direct air machine. The Kirby definitely lacks features that most bypass vacuums have today. Suction, filtration, on-board tools, lifetime belt, etc. Things that consumers want to have on a vacuum. Myself included cause I'll admit, the Kirby isn't my favorite machine to use. Good vacuums still but I've used better.
 
I have a kirby and it was quite frustrating.

After hearing so much from many members that consider the kirby as the very best invention after sliced bread, I was expecting too much from it.

It sucks, great! But i dont thing suction power is everything.

Luckily my kirby was free, otherwise id have returned it.

Its a great vacuum for a spring cleaning, but its heavy, a PITA to move. A PITA to manouver (even with the drive assist), that giant head is a pain because it doesn't fit under furniture, those 363838363649050372 accessories are a pain, the cord is wonderful during use, but a pain to wrap after use. The bag, gosh, that horrible bag. Its huge, you must decide if you throw away a bag that is half full or if you simply continue vacuuming with a stinky bag.

I have hardfloors anyway, so my 16 amp electrolux bagless canister does the job very easily and after done i empty the container in the toilet in 3 seconds.

I use the kirby exclusively to vac the lawn in the balcony. (Artificial, of course)
 
Filtration

The feature i like the best are the disposable ane sealed HEPA bags on a kirby! Its like having a new vac just by changing the bag - no other stupid filters to clean like other vacs, and air flow is back to 100%.
 
Those HEPA filters that need changing usually come after the bag and right before the air exits the vacuum. What these will also do is capture carbon dust from the motor.
 
Reply #10

Are you sure? I’ve watched quite a few videos from VacLab on YouTube and out of all the vacuums he has tested, the direct air vacuums always pulled the flour through the carpet backing while the bypass vacuums leave a good majority of the flour behind.
 
Yes, I'm absolutely certain. Kirbys have excellent airflow but they don't have very good suction. You need to have BOTH if you want your carpets very clean, one of the companies like Riccar realized this and their solution was coming with what's called a Tandem Air. Using both a direct air and a bypass motor so you'd have enough airflow and suction plus agitation to get as much dirt out as you possibly can on carpets. Plus you have tools on-board, you have better filtration, you don't ever have to replace the belt, the brushroll automatically shuts off you if you accidentally pick up something like a shoelace, I mean this is in my humble opinion one of the greatest vacuum designs ever invented. That's one of the reasons why I like these better than Kirby. I've used both, I've repaired both, and I even sold both when I was working at a vacuum store.

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I have the tandem air vacuums-My Kirby still does better.So I stick with the Kirby.Another vacuum not mentioned is the Royal all metal uprights.These do well and compared to tandem air machines-use half the amps.Same with Kirby does better and lower power draw.On any of my tandem air vacuum their cords get quite warm-13A draw as measured with an amp clamp meter.The com plex airpath in tamdem air machines has too much loss.
 
Tandem air offers the benefits of both however it adds a lot more complexity, most tandem air vacuums are quite expensive as well. Doesn’t make sense to have something overly complex to get the dirt off of the floor/carpets.
 
I respectively disagree. Kirbys are actually much more complicated to use compare to the tandem air machines, that's one of the reasons why I see a bunch of people selling their Kirbys because they were tired of using them. Especially my grandparents, they bought another vacuum after using their Kirby for about 10 years. And Kirbys aren't cheap either. In fact, people can get sucked into buying a Kirby for alot more than buying a tandem air machine. But that's just from door-to-door. I would've been more than happy to do a YouTube video to back up my statements but I don't need to because someone already did it, he and I both share pretty much the same views on Kirby. Again Kirbys are still good vacuums but they're just not for me.



While I agree with the other post that the Kirby draws less power, I don't agree that they do better than the tandem air machines because I've had different results. I like Royal but similar to Kirby they are loud, they're not as sealed as the tandem air machines, they still use rubber belts that you have to change out, and they don't have any attachments on board. I personally wouldn't use a Royal either except for the Dirt Devil 103 style handvacs, they're the only direct air machines that I can handle with using. Royal just like Kirby, they're unfortunately outdated designs nowadays. Some people like yourself still love using them and I think that's totally fine. But there's a reason why the parent company of Royal quit making the metal uprights, they just don't sell well anymore and I bet that's why Kirbys are being sold at Costco now because they're probably behind financially. There's also a reason why the church my grandparents used to clean for also got rid of Kirbys and went with something more modern like Sebo. Honestly if I did had to buy a new vacuum today, I'd also get something like a Sebo.

 
I grew up in a home with a Kirby vacuum that my Mom bought from a door to door saleswoman in 1955. She paid over $400.00 for it, a Kings Ransom for a vacuum in 1955! It was the only vacuum I used until I left home in 1970. Mom finally replaced it with a Riccar upright in 1987. So she got 32 years of service out of that Kirby.

The Kirby was fine on floors and carpets, but a PITA as far a using attachments for any above floor cleaning like vacuuming upholstery, drapes, blinds, curtains, ect. The one attachment that was very useful was the floor polishing head. We had hardwood floors and used Tree Wax paste wax on the floors, the Indian Sand formula that was kind of a reddish brown color and it concealed and scratches or worn spots. That Kirby polishing head really worked great, but you had better not let go of it while it was on. It would take off and be hard as hell to get ahold of again.

We have wall to wall carpeting and stairs in our home. My husband David does the cleaning and prefers a canister vacuum with a power head. We went through 4 Kenmore canister vacs with motorized power heads. The weak point of these vacuums are the electrical connections for the power nozzle in the handle, they wear out and the replacement parts are very expensive. It cost just a little more to just replace the whole damn vacuum.

After our last Kenmore bit the dust I ordered a Miele Compact with a Turbo Head floor/carpet nozzle. The suction on this little Miele is unbelievable! Plus it has a dial to reduce the suction for vacuuming curtains and drapes. It cleans our off white WW carpet every bit as well as an upright or canister vac with a motorized power head and there are no electrical connections to wear out. Its powerful, lightweight, very maneuverable and filters the dust very effectively. Probably one of the very best vacs we’ve ever owned. And our carpets look great too.

Eddie
 
Reply #18

I use my 1965 Kirby Dual Sanitonic 50 on a daily basis, not that complicated to use. I use the attachments about one a week or so for dusting and such but always use it as a upright to clean the floors.

Btw, Performance Reviews and Vacuum Facts put false information out there and most of the things they say are opinions, not really facts. Again, VacLab has many videos comparing direct air vs bypass vacuums, there’s no comparison between the two since the direct air vacuums just about get everything up from the carpet or rug. As long as you use common sense with a direct air vacuum, they can last awhile and provide years of trouble free service.
 
I think Dual Sanitronics are one of the nicer Kirbys in my humble opinion. I like that they don't have a transmission which is an extra thing that can break on a vacuum. I also like that the nozzle width is much smaller where it can actually clean carpets just slightly better. And I like that they're lighter as well. But even those I still wouldn't use for myself either.

And I still have to respectively disagree with you. If Kirbys were supposed to be the best vacuums on the planet and I'll admit there was one point when I really thought they were. Everybody would still keep their Kirby, Kirby wouldn't even have to sell vacuums at Costco today, and Kirby should've picked EVERYTHING off of not only my carpets but my grandparent's as well. Earlier this year we ripped out some carpets from my grandparent's house and the house always had a Kirby, especially the last 8 years when the Kirby took over the house as the main vacuum after the other vacuum had died. There was a BUNCH of sand, grit, and even cat litter left over from underneath the carpet. It's not even shag carpet. This backs up my one point and Performance Review's video of the Kirby which I don't think you've ever watched, Kirbys would've picked ALL of that up if it had more suction power but it doesn't. This is one of the cons of a direct air machine. Sure it may pick up more finer stuff like flour but even with more airflow, it still cannot pick up heavier dirt off the carpets. Actually there was also a time when we also had some of our carpets ripped out in my house, I vacuumed with a Kirby in my old bedroom where I used to do baking soda tests at with my other vacuums, there was even baking soda left underneath the carpet. And that was when I started having doubts on Kirby after being convinced that they were the best. Vaclab does all his testing at his house, I happened to clean other homes with different style carpeting, floors, and surfaces. So not everything he would conclude would be the same for every home. Also his testing is based on science. Performance Reviews' tests is based on what a consumer would normally do in a home. You're not gonna like to hear this but I actually agree with Performance Reviews more than I would with Vaclab. His points make more sense to me. I may not agree with him on everything but if I needed a opinion on a vacuum, I would honestly turn to him over Vaclab and even Vacuum Wars since I don't really agree with his videos either. At least though I'd rather hear from Vaclab than I would with Vacuum Facts, his videos are definitely more confusing than the others. Last but not least here, I've definitely had others issues with using direct air machines. As I said previously, they're just outdated machines. I'm tired of changing belts, they don't have good enough filtration to help with my allergies, they don't have attachments on-board and I do need to use the hose more often than yourself would, etc. I mean direct air machines are just simply not for everyone. With proper care yes they could last for a bit, in fact I take the best care on all my machines. But I generally find bypass machines to be the more reliable than direct air machines and this is coming from someone like me who was in the vacuum store industry like Performance Reviews.



 
CR's latest take

Not the highest scoring vacuum for various reasons however:
CR's Take

The Kirby Avalir 2 is one of the costliest uprights that CR has tested. For that price, you do get impressive cleaning capabilities. It scores the highest of any upright in CR’s tests of carpet and bare-floor cleaning. But it does have two distinct shortcomings: It weighs 23 pounds, contributing to its Fair score for handling (the lowest of all uprights) and it’s one of the noisiest models CR has tested
 
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You have to realize that Performance Reviews lives in Colorado where the elevation is higher, I can see direct air vacuums struggling more at higher elevations but since more people live at or a little below sea level, direct air vacuums work fine. I believe Utah is higher elevation as well.

As for belts on direct air vacuums, haven’t had to replace a belt on my 1965 Kirby Dual Sanitonic 50 since I’ve owned it since February. Belts on direct air vacuums usually can last a long time if you don’t set it to the lowest height selection. You are supposed to lower the nozzle one click at a time until you hear if hit the carpet, sometimes you can set it one more click down but usually set it until I hear the brush roll hit the carpet.

This sounds kind of cliché, but to me, Kirby is the Maytag of the vacuum cleaner world since they very rarely update the design and the designs that have been used over the years are usually non-nonsense designs that are easy to repair and just keep going and going.
 
Yes I do live in the Rockies and my area is pretty high up as well but I've also lived out of the region before where I was very close to sea level.

I actually did had to replace belts quite often on my grandparent's Kirby because I've definitely noticed a difference after 1-3 months and I wanted the best performance that I can get out of it. As I said previously, I take the best care of my machines. Heck I even replace the bags almost everytime that I would use it and wash the outer bag in the washing machine. Not because they clog up real fast, but because the bags always stink and I don't like that either. This is one of the reasons why I like central vacs the best because I don't have to smell anything that I would pick up with a portable vacuum including Kirby because all the air is blown out of the house and it is the best for my allergies. And I did always had the Kirby adjusted to the correct height. Ideally if you wanted a belt to last longer, you would take the belt off the motor pully when you're not using it and put it back on when you're vacuuming. I did that as well for a little bit, I quit doing that because not only it was more annoying for me to do but also it still didn't help whenever dirt would get on the belt and wear it out anyways. I like vacuums where the belt is protected from dirt getting inside of there and the Kirby doesn't have that feature. Also regarding the height adjuster, you'd need to have the brushroll spinning at a higher RPM on the carpet if you wanted the best performance. The Kirby loses that brushroll speed once it hits the carpet. There's only one vacuum out there that doesn't do that and it's the Sebo X Series, that's one of the reasons why I like them more than Kirby because it auto adjusts to the correct level on the carpet without losing the speed of the brushroll.

I don't know if you're aware of this before or not but Kirby actually made one of the dumbest decisions a while ago when they changed their bearing supply which causes them to not last as long as they used to. Also, Cleveland Wood no longer makes brushrolls for Kirby and I'm concerned now that Kirby is probably gonna have someone make cheaper brushrolls that are not going to last as long as the wooden brushrolls. Not to mention there was a huge backorder on fans when I had to get new fans for some of my Kirbys just recently. That's another problem with direct air machines is that when the fan breaks, you have to get another fan. Can't tell you how many fans that I had to replace on Kirbys when I was working at a vacuum store. Not just Kirby but also with other direct air machines like Sanitaire or Oreck. I don't worry about this with bypass machines and why I still stand behind that they are generally more reliable than direct air machines. So just like the original Maytag company, I think Kirby is going downhill as well. Actually I think I'm seeing the end of Kirby here real soon. Hate to say it because I loved Kirby growing up and still do today. But Kirbys are still just not for me to use.
 
In the reviews on vacuums------NO vacuum can be used for "foodservice" use in commerical dining places.They use a Bissel type sweeper or a broom to clean in between diners.I have seen Sebo vacuums BADLY clogged from foodservcie use.Same with other clean air vacuums.At one resturant they tried to pick up a hamburger!!!The local Truck Mount cleaner here has monthly contracts to use his cleaner and service every month on their carpets.The food debris cannot be easily pick up by vacuum cleaners.Crumbs are about the only debris they can handle.
Another problem with present Kirbys that use the current plastic fans.If you let the bag get too full puts too much back pressure on the fan-the reseulting air friction heats up and bends over the fan blades.Same if you use the inflator tool on the blower hose mode.Solution for Kirby-GO BACK to the tempered metal fans as Royal did.
Right now my tandem air vacuums sit in the rear of the lineups.The vac dealer here says they don't sell.He just received a line of Riccar vacuums-their clean airs are quite nice.I tried one that is dual motor-one motor power the brushroll-other for suction.And its airpath is simpler than the tandem air machine.
 
I've been into my local restaurants with carpets over the years where they are ALWAYS replacing alot of push sweepers, and they cost about as much as buying a cheap vacuum from departments stores like Walmart or Target. Especially the cordless sweepers. I once worked at a retirement home as a janitorial where I would vacuum with the Windsor Sensor XP15s' in the dining room and I've never had any problems with them. Probably because I know how to use the vacuums correctly and what not to suck up. The people who would clog their machines up probably doesn't know of how to use them. Perhaps it's just better to replace the carpets with barefloors then? That's what some of mine have done.

I've heard from some before who says that metal fans are more problematic than plastic fans on the Kirby Generation Series. Since they're heavier, it would stress the motor even more. I've heard they can break too. And they don't fit on all of their models, I've heard that the G5 and newer ones wouldn't work but does work on the G3 and G4 models. Even with a metal fan on, it still got outcleaned by a bypass machine from this video.





I've used the newer Riccar R25s', I agree that they are nice as well. But I still prefer the older bypass uprights more, I think that was a mistake from them because I find that they do a better job on carpets. Luckily they still do sell the commercial versions under the CleanMax name today, I think I'd buy a CleanMax over a R25. But if I really did had to buy a Riccar, I'd prefer a central vac. I can easily equip it with the Prima's direct air power nozzle if I wanted to. But I find that the EBK360 power nozzle works just as well if not better than the Prima's power nozzle and it isn't even direct air.
 
Warren off-loaded Kirby for only $1.6 Mill. Probably put the $$ into TSLA stock.

Costco is probably just trying out offering these to see how they move. Not all products are winners, it doesn't matter the retailer. They may also be simply liquidating the remaining stock.

It's so easy to find Kirbys on Craigslist and Ebay for as low as $25, sometimes even free.

I find it very hard to believe this company will be around much longer. The private equity company that acquired them is probably looking to create losses for the sake of off-setting gains elsewhere.

What next? Filter Queen available at Sam's Club?

I remember, years ago, probably 1999 going to Sams club and seeing a rather bol Electrolux canister and upright. I think they were asking about $400. I went back 3 weeks later and the display was gone.
 
Aers-Lux is still with us and they now have walk-in stores.They mainly emphasize their air and water filters over their large line of vacuums.They no longer go DTD either.Since they have the walk-in shops,machine memos at the stores-also carry filters and bags.They have the FULL line of vacuums Rainbow,Filter Queen and Kirby do not have.Those only have like ONE model or type of vacuum.Aerus Lux has several models-uprights or canisters,even a central vacuum.Figure Aerus can be around for awhile.
 

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