Kitchen-Aid, Breville or wait for the next Food processor?

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A dough hook is for dough, Breville;

not pasta! A pasta machine has a double, or triple rotating horizontal paddle folding the mixture like a paddle wheel boat. A frined bough a Breville round the bowl mixer and tried making white bread with it. The nylon or whatever gears stripped. It was a month old.
 
LOL! That's why I'm getting a FP
FPs (with the dough blade) deal easily with super hard pasta dough, but not well with sticky yeast doughs.

Bread ina FP? A Mistake that we make once in life and probably many of us destroyed their first FPs doing that. (I had to destroy 2 and they were great and freaking expensive TOL FPs from the 80's, just to be really sure hahahaha)
 
I use a food processor primarily for bread dough and would have no other than the Cuisinart Custom 14 (14-cup capacity). It is also the top-rated processor by America’s Test Kitchen. Price is around $200. (Note: Other Cuisinart models score lower than the Custom 14.)

 

The 12-cup Breville BFP660 is next on the list; price around $300.

 

 CR’s top-rated model is the 16-cup Breville BFP800XL/A with an overall score of 81. Don’t think they test the machines on bread dough, anymore, unfortunately. Price is upwards of $700. The 12-cup Breville BFP660 is further down the list, with an overall score of 64. Price around $300.

 

KitchenAid processors are middle-of-the-pack at both CR and ATK. Had one back in the early 2000s, and frankly, have no desire to try the brand again. Didn’t have the muscle for bread dough.
 
We all have such wildly different experiences

 

<span style="font-family: helvetica;">I had the Cuisinart (I think the 14 cup) it had the three bowls and the attachment caddy.  I don't have it anymore so I attached a photo.  I had nothing but trouble with it.  When I tried to make any kind of heavy dough in it (usually pizza dough) the lid would disengage and the machine would stop.  The controls didn't work half the time.  The pulse button would stick so if I was pulsing an onion for example I had to hold on to the plug to pull it because I never knew when it would stick.  I gave it to a friend of mine who was going to tinker with the controls to see if he could fix it.  He told me it didn't fail for him as often as it did for me.</span>

 

<span style="font-family: helvetica;">I know they are supposed to be good machines and most likely I had a lemon.  This was at least the third Cuisinart I had over the years.  Cuisinart wouldn't do anything about the failing controls because I had just exceeded the warranty.  And back then I know I paid over $300 for it.  This is when I finally decided to bite the bullet and go for the commercial machine. </span>

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The only Cuisinart food processor to own is the Custom Classic 14 pictured below. Nearly all the newer, fancier Cuisinart models--as you pointed out, Ralph--are middling performers at best. 

 

Reminds me a bit of Speed Queen's strategy. The performance of their redesigned TR top-loader did not impress SQ aficionados, so Alliance soon made one of the classic models available, as well.

 

While I'm generally the first in line to try a brand's latest offerings, the above-mentioned are two instances in which the "classic"designs are the better performers.

 

 

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Ralph, that Cuisinart model is part of their "value" line, nowhere near constructed like the classic, original Cuisinarts. It's the equivalent of Newton Maytags vs. Atlantis Maytags that were essentially Norgetags.
 
I didn't know that...

 

<span style="font-family: helvetica;">That likely explains why I had the experience I had with it.  It was clearly not made as well as some of the older machines I had and a disappointment.  Now that I think about it, I may have bought that off of QVC but I can't be sure as its been a number of years.  If I did that makes sense because it seems some of their products (not all) look like a higher end model but aren't quite the same.  </span>
 
another vote for Robot Coupe

I was a professional cook for 30 years.

First place I worked used to buy Brevilles and had to replace them every few months. They got hard use from unsympathetic ham-fisted people. (not me...)

They eventually stumped up for a Robot. It was idiot proof and bullet proof. A fantastic machine.

Next place I worked also had a Robot. It never needed any attention in the 15 years I worked there. Still as good as new.

 

Breville is nothing special here in Australia. It is a long established Aussie company, has cheap models built to a price, and quality models that are much better. I suspect they have created an "upmarket" image overseas by only selling their top end models. Having said that, I have quite a few Breville gadgets and am impressed with most of them. I used to be a shareholder in the company that owned Sunbeam here, and despite my attachment to Sunbeam, when I compared equivalent models, tended to buy Breville. As a shareholder if we attended the annual shareholders meeting in Melbourne, they would give us a small Sunbeam appliance as a thank you gift. Most were dreadful... except the digital scales, they were great and I still have them.

 

anyhow, go for the Robot.
 
I'd love to have a Hobart N50 if I had loads of money to spend on a mixer. There's a reason they cost 3 or 4 times as much as a KitchenAid of the same size - they have industrial grade components that hold up under heavy use.
 
Guys, thanks for all the advices.

And the winner is...

Breville Sous-chef peel & dice with the optional 2 other dicing disks

What made me make an exception and accept somethng that's not KA (that KA has something somewhat similar) was the huge chute, so i can make french fries;

It also eliminated the remote possibility of having a mandoline (even knowing mandolines are much more accurate than a FP)

Anyway. the Breville looks much sturdier and well designed than the KA and the KA is being phased out, so replacement blades will probably be really hard to find.
 
Congrats! Did you get the 12-cup model? Give us a full review after you’ve had some time to use it.

Several Breville small appliances are at or near the top in America’s Test Kitchen reviews, including their blender, toaster oven, espresso maker, and your food processor.

I have a Breville blender, and while it doesn’t get a lot of use, it does a great job at everything I’ve thrown at it.
 
Robot Coupe

Thomas,

It sounds like you've made your decision, but if you are still not quite sure, I have a Robot Coupe for sale. I would sell quite reasonably, but the shipping would probably be a killer from the states. I once shipped a Saladmaster food processor to Argentina, but I have no recollection of what it cost. The Robot Coupe is definitely heavier. It seems to be built like a tank and weigh like one too.

Best of luck with the machine you get.

Sarah
 
I have a Breville food processor and have been very pleased with it.  I've never made pasta but I make pie crust and bread dough in it often and it has been a solid performer. 
 
Hi Austin,

Its the commercial version of a Magimix.

I'm not sure why thats not getting more kudos here. My Magimix 5200 is 13 years old now, still has all the original plastic and has a motor with enough torque, that when you start it, it twitches on the counter. Only now, I've got a crack in the mini bowl and it could do with replacement, however as long as I keep liquids out of it, there's no issues.

Thomas, whatever you get, make sure its an induction motor. If it doesnt look like it could drive a washer, keep shopping.

Cheers

Nathan
 

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