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I really want this machine. I already started looking for shipping quotes, but I don't want to pay $600 for a machine from the 70s. Not to mention, I would have to replace the upper wash arm with the longer version. One place online wants almost $300 for the whole new upper rack with the spray arm. I don't know what to do?
 
You could try bidding on it for $100 if you wanted, I don't think I'd do the buy it now. As Parunner said I remember when they cost that new. Besides, even though it's from the 70s, I don't think these are really that rare. I highly doubt it would be the last you'd ever see. They're wonderful machines and I certainly understand your interest!

Not sure what to tell you about rack replacement. I didn't know there were two sizes of upper washarms. That looks like the one I had and it did fine.
 
good luck with that buy it now

I sold one (exact same machine) a few years ago, I think I sold mine for $150.-- and the machine was MINT !! like new and had only been used five times tops. I wouldn't pay more than $150.-- tops and there will be other machines that will come along ...
 
The year is spot on at least, i have those books and a recipt from a 77 model that was left over from the whirlpool dealer where i grew up (they sold Kitchenaid/Whirlpool/Thermador)
 
That is a bit much...

Considering a member on here gave me his KDS-19 for free and delivered it to me (very nice guy!), that price is pretty high. And I think mine is probably in as good of condition as this one minus the booklets. There are many of these out there still because they last nearly forever. Good luck with the search though and let us know what you decide to do!

Jon
 
nice machine but pricey

I paid $50 for my KDS17-A, I found a NOS upper rack on ebay for $20, and paid $125 to have the door panels re-painted.

Not bad...

Thats an 18 series though, aren't they kinda rare?
 
Beware of what you wish for, Jakeseacrest!

Yes, the KDS-85 offered for sale is going for nearly it's price when new and though it looks to be in great condition and would make a great addition to anyone's kitchen even today as a portable or a built-in, it is an obsolete machine for which just about every part has been discontinued. You CAN get the pump and motor assembly for it but not a timer if it should die(though I have a brand new one if anyone needs one!)
Various other parts which were carried over into the newer models may be available and racks are available on ebay for this machine as long as they come from an 18,19,20,21,22 series machine.

The one above looks to have the original style upper washarm which is the smaller arm you have heard referred to. The major difference between that one and the newer longer style is the addition of a water jet on the ends of the arm which helped to direct additional water into the corners of the upper rack.

I have that longer arm on my KDS18 so I cannot vouch for the results with the smaller arm, but I never have a problem with dirt or soil left in any of the glasses in the top rack at aoll and none in the glasses placed in the corners.

As far as your wish for a 19 or 20 series, Jake.. go for the 20. It is the same basically as the 19 but Hobart saw that the non heated dry system on the 19 was problematic in many circumstances. The 20 had the hot air blower returned to the machine and a separate no heat dry button put back on the control panel. Both machines WILL do a great job on the dishes but one should dry better than the other.

What you should really try to get is a 21 or 22 series machine since it has the really very well designed washing system with the metal food waste disposer in the pump that grinds up everything very fine and deposits it into the soil collection chamber for drain out later. The water is really filtered very well and the cycle times are long so the washing results are usually fantastic.

And Just for the record, the 18's were not that rare at all, They were well received and were very reliable(of course..made by Hobart)machines. The dual arms do a great job of cleaning especially with the 1/2 hp pump it came with.

Hope that helps.
Steve
 
WOW!

I have a model similar to this one, although 1981, and it had been used a handful of times, mine was 100 dollars three years ago.I was the only one that bid on it.I lucked out buying it off of e-bay with it being local in suberbia. This looks like a great machine, you could even buy new color pannels for it if you were to choose, they are fairly easy to get. Just like the one I have. I Wonder how long it has been since it has been run? These things are hard to kill. If you can get your hands on it, I would.My favorite cycle on it is the sani cycle. It heats the rinse water up to 170 and has Fabulous results with no pre rinsing.
 
I am going to hold off for a portable 20 series, however a built in superba 20 is on the ebay block. If I could get a built in I would snag it, but I live in a rental for now!
 

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