Kitchenaid Superba Washer Set

[DADoES]

 
Search your model numbers at online parts sources.

AppliancePartsPros.com and SearsPartsDirect.com have breakdown diagrams.  Others may have parts listed but not diagrams.

Make note of the various part numbers of interest -- the correct (WP) manufacturer part numbers, not the vendor/seller-specific item/stock/SKU numbers -- then search those WP numbers at any/all online sources (including eBay) for best prices.

 

[eurekastar]

You're a lucky dawg!  That's awesome! 

 

[whirlykenmore78]

Fantastic!

I can think of no other TL W&D set that will perform any better or be more reliable than these! As John said the timers could become a problem to find so having backups is a good Idea. So is having other control panel parts.
WK78

 

[bradfordwhite]

Those look super clean. Excellent.

 

[mistereric]

Congrats!

Yogi: after a few years of foster care with friends, that KA set are happy back in service in my new laundry room.

 

[lakewebsterkid]

KA set

Oh man. I have been watching this thread, and I am jealous. These will be a great set!
I second the Tide Mountain Spring powder. I can just imagine the smell of a hot wash with it! YUM!

 

[electronicontrl]

Nice..

You really scored with that set! Beautiful!
I'm saving the pic!

 

[naturallynick]

Kitchenaid 2 Speed

Hi Everyone!

I’m getting a 2 speed set with the black control board and the baby blue agitator this weekend from an old couple in their 70’s up in Scranton, PA. It only has 3 temperature selection and no warm/warm option which makes me a little sad but none the less I am sure it’s in amazing shape. They don’t have smartphones so they weren’t able to post pictures but the man sounded nice and explained the machine over the phone.

It sounds like the 2 speed with no extra rinse etc and not as many options as the picture on this forum.

Does anyone know if the old 2 speed would have the stepped spin and agitation feature? Does anyone know what the programmed cycles are?

I saw on Lorain Furniture Eugene had a video of one like this but his agitator wasn’t even the large KA one I guess KA made a bottom line one? It worries me I might be getting that and I wanna know more if anyone can help explain.

Thanks All!!

 

[DADoES]

 
Pretty much impossible to predict the details without a model number and/or photos of the panel and interior.  Very early models didn't have the oversize agitator and were two speed (ran high agitation at the high motor speed).  Some lower-end models in the late 80s and forward may also be as such.

Seems that Eugene's KA does have the larger agitator (the base covers the ring of perforations on bottom of the basket).

 

[naturallynick]

Thanks Dadoes!!

I called and got the model number KAWE560WAL3

I tried looking it up but can’t find anything on it at all.

 

[DADoES]

 
I have a KAWE760WAL2, which is two models higher in the line.  The 760 has a 3-speed motor and stepped spin.  Final spin on Perm Press cycle runs two mins each at all three motor speeds.

KAWE560WAL3 has a 2-speed motor.  It may have stepped spin on the two speeds, depends on the timer programming.  It does have the larger agitator.

W = 1990 model year
AL = almond color
trailing digit indicates the engineering change/revision on the given model

Serial numbers are coded for the week and year of manufacture.  Mine is 26th week (June 24-28) of 1991.

 

[naturallynick]

Thanks so much Dadoes!!!!!

I can only hope they would do steppes spin I can’t imagine why not? Different trans but they could keep the same control board or circuit board for mass production and not utilize all the options on the circuit board?

I have a estate by whirlpool 2002 DD that is a two speed but doesn’t change from the high speed ever even for “delicate”. I just want to know if this KA will have a more gentle agitation but I would love to know if someone knows if it would have stepped agitation.

If you had the chance at one in good shape owned by an old couple would you get it? Before I drive an hour there I’m trying to get a feel for it.

Also is the almond color ugly? I can’t find any almond pics

 

[DADoES]

 
The transmission has no effect on agitation or spin speeds.  Speeds are in the motor RPM, not in the mechanicals of the transmission.

There are no electronics or circuit boards involved.  The timer is mechanical.

Your Estate probably has a 1-speed motor and simulates gentler agitation by running the motor intermittently on the Gentle or Delicate cycle.

I can't find a tech sheet for the KA 560 but I did find a user guide.  It doesn't state any agitation or spin speeds for the three cycles.  The illustration of the timer doesn't show any wash times, just soil level references.  There are wash time references in the written cycle descriptions.

Regular/Heavy
  Normal (or Heavy) = 10 mins
  Light (or Normal) = 6 mins

Permanent Press
  Normal = 7 mins
  Light = 4 mins

Knits/Delicate
  Normal = 1 min agitation, 2 mins soak, 1 min agitation

The descriptions lead me to conjecture that, regards to having the larger agitator and a 2-speed motor, it runs the motor at low speed for all agitation.  Possibly at high for spin on Regular/Heavy and at low for spin on Perm Press and Knits/Delicate ... or possibly stepped on Perm Press .... or maybe at high for all spins.

Whirlpool Digital Library

Select Documents.
KAWE560WAL3 for Exact Model Number
Press Enter, or click the magnifying glass icon to search.

 

[repairguy]

I’d go for it especially if an elderly couple owned it.

 

[naturallynick]

Okay not sure if that is a bummer to hear or not. I’m thinking it would still be better then the estate in some way? Or maybe I should keep it and continue my KA hunt

 

[naturallynick]

My estate machine says 2 speed but I think they just use the second speed for spinning and will do a low spin on delicate.

Do you think this KA would be at least better then that? It will have the larger agitator at least.

Thanks for all your input I really appreciate it!!

 

[DADoES]

 
Regards to the Estate, parts diagrams would need to be checked or the tech sheet located to determine if it has a 2-speed or 1-speed motor.  "2 Speed Combinations" or some such reference printed on the panel may be marketing-speak for intermittent agitation on the Delicate or Gentle cycle.  You should be able to hear the difference in the motor sound for drain vs. spin if it's using low speed for spin.  Neutral drain is always at high speed.

The KA does have a 2-speed motor if the parts info I'm finding is correct.  I can't say how the machine utilizes the two speeds without detailed cycle diagrams or direct operational observation.  Or, someone who has the exact model could provide the details.

 

[naturallynick]

Yeah I think the estate is just marketing it that way. It does that stupid intermittent delicate cycle.

I think that I want the KA cause it would have better sound deadening features? And that gold wire plated motor or whatever? It’s gotta have some better features then the cheap estate.

Here’s a photo of the estate, thanks again for your help and being so awesome at it!!

 

[appnut]

My partner has the exact same machines as your Estate, just branded as Admiral. Intermitint agitation and there's no slow spin speed.

 

[DADoES]

 
Found a tech sheet for the Estate, which also covers other models.  Says all agitation and spin is at high speed.  Gentle cycle agitation is 20 secs on/off, although that may vary per timer programming among the various models.

TAWX700JQ1 = 2000 model year
CM1981061 = 19th week (May 6-10) of 2002 manufacture date