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nickuk
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Thanks for that pic Launderess, I very much enjoyed looking at it!
Are they all French? Dash in France is the equivalent of Bold (2 in 1) and given that Dash in the picture is splt into regular and color, with no mention of 2 in 1, I would guess it's the Italian version which I believe is a market leader and Ariel equiv. I LOVE the Dash brand imaging in that pic.
Le Chat, clearly the Henkel flagship - direct equiv of German Persil. Bonux is the direct equiv of UK Daz. Called Bonux because when it first came out you always got a little gift, prize ir `Bonus' with it......
Coral is a Unilever brand of which I don't think there is a UK equiv. Tends to market itself towards the colours / delicates end of the spectrum. Don't recall there being a Skip (Persil) or Omo (Surf) colour variant so perhaps it plugs that gap.
Vizir (like a sun `vizir') seems to be a uniquely liquid P/G product and it appears the same as old UK Daz liquid despite the Bonux brand also being Daz...never quite worked that one out.....
Totally unsure what Dixan is doing there as had no idea that was available in France, that one may also be from somewhere else in Europe.
Nice to see Ecover putting in an appearance. Saw Lavamat Jon yesterday and he's really rather impressed with the liquid as a more gentle wash for colours (no enzymes, OBAs etc).
As you can see I enjoyed this picture so thanks once again and sorry for droning on.
Nick
Are they all French? Dash in France is the equivalent of Bold (2 in 1) and given that Dash in the picture is splt into regular and color, with no mention of 2 in 1, I would guess it's the Italian version which I believe is a market leader and Ariel equiv. I LOVE the Dash brand imaging in that pic.
Le Chat, clearly the Henkel flagship - direct equiv of German Persil. Bonux is the direct equiv of UK Daz. Called Bonux because when it first came out you always got a little gift, prize ir `Bonus' with it......
Coral is a Unilever brand of which I don't think there is a UK equiv. Tends to market itself towards the colours / delicates end of the spectrum. Don't recall there being a Skip (Persil) or Omo (Surf) colour variant so perhaps it plugs that gap.
Vizir (like a sun `vizir') seems to be a uniquely liquid P/G product and it appears the same as old UK Daz liquid despite the Bonux brand also being Daz...never quite worked that one out.....
Totally unsure what Dixan is doing there as had no idea that was available in France, that one may also be from somewhere else in Europe.
Nice to see Ecover putting in an appearance. Saw Lavamat Jon yesterday and he's really rather impressed with the liquid as a more gentle wash for colours (no enzymes, OBAs etc).
As you can see I enjoyed this picture so thanks once again and sorry for droning on.
Nick
askomiele
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That's a picture from a belgian supermarket isn't it?
Some of those detergents are already gone. Dash Futur, Dash Futur Colo, Omo and Persil liquid tabs, Vizir, these things are not sold anymore. Strange thing is actually that liquid and powders are gettin even on quantity of selling. 50% buys powders (mostly the big boxes or tabs), an other 50% buys liquid. Wonder what happend with the 'compact' powders like Dash and Ariel futur... haven't seen them around for ages. There was a time persil had a compact powder, you bought a box (plastic), when it was empty you brought it back to the store. Bought a new one, and the old one went back to be refilled. But most people didn't bring it back, because they where good storage boxes. You could do more loads with less powder and at the end having an nice box to put socks in.
Some of those detergents are already gone. Dash Futur, Dash Futur Colo, Omo and Persil liquid tabs, Vizir, these things are not sold anymore. Strange thing is actually that liquid and powders are gettin even on quantity of selling. 50% buys powders (mostly the big boxes or tabs), an other 50% buys liquid. Wonder what happend with the 'compact' powders like Dash and Ariel futur... haven't seen them around for ages. There was a time persil had a compact powder, you bought a box (plastic), when it was empty you brought it back to the store. Bought a new one, and the old one went back to be refilled. But most people didn't bring it back, because they where good storage boxes. You could do more loads with less powder and at the end having an nice box to put socks in.
ronhic
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Speaking of compact powders....
...they are all becoming more so here in the very near future.
Colgate-Palmolive and Unilever (lever bros) are both going to halve the quantity...I have seen it on OMO boxes saying 'next time you see me I'll be 2X more concentrated!'
The same for Cold Power etc....
Compact powders out sell every other format here....
...they are all becoming more so here in the very near future.
Colgate-Palmolive and Unilever (lever bros) are both going to halve the quantity...I have seen it on OMO boxes saying 'next time you see me I'll be 2X more concentrated!'
The same for Cold Power etc....
Compact powders out sell every other format here....
AskoMiele,
Will have to check, cannot remember where one snagged the snap from. Just loved all the French detergents in one place.
Here's another:
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Will have to check, cannot remember where one snagged the snap from. Just loved all the French detergents in one place.
Here's another:
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Le Chat
It the "Tide" of France, one can't get away from the stuff.
IIRC, "Super Croix" is a more recent incarnation of the hallowed French detergent brand "Le Croix".
In the USA, "X-TRA" is a cheap liquid deterent sold in huge bottles, which means it contains mostly water. Most if not all liquid offerings of detergents such as Tide and others have long switched down to "2x".
It the "Tide" of France, one can't get away from the stuff.
IIRC, "Super Croix" is a more recent incarnation of the hallowed French detergent brand "Le Croix".
In the USA, "X-TRA" is a cheap liquid deterent sold in huge bottles, which means it contains mostly water. Most if not all liquid offerings of detergents such as Tide and others have long switched down to "2x".
When I was in France a few years ago I bought a bottle of X-tra liquid detergent with Savon de Marseille. I didn't see any X-tra powder back then. Savon de Marseille is a popular scent in France. I wasn't impressed by it, the wash results were not more than OK and the scent is not really like Savon de Marseille.
I also see Froggy detergent, I never saw that in a French supermarket, but I did in Belgium so it could be indeed a picture of a Belgian supermarket. Froggy is made in Germany and sold overthere as Frosch. It's an exofriendly detergent. They have a website which is partly in English.
www.frosch.de
I also see Froggy detergent, I never saw that in a French supermarket, but I did in Belgium so it could be indeed a picture of a Belgian supermarket. Froggy is made in Germany and sold overthere as Frosch. It's an exofriendly detergent. They have a website which is partly in English.
Frosch products in bio quality | frosch.de
Frosch.de ► All about cleaning ✓ Laundry ✓ Dishwashing ✓ Baby ✓ Cosmetics & Room Fresheners ✓ Discover now at frosch.de
www.frosch.de
askomiele
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That second foto is real french detergent rayon. The first pic comes from Colruyt supermarket. Don't forget that Le Chat in France is henkels Persil everywhere else! And the french Persil really is a Unilever brand. Some UK and Irish members can tell you more about the 'problems' henkel had with their Persil. And correct me if I'm wrong but the unilevers persil is sold here as Skip! (at least in France). If I recall correctly the Skip in french is Persil in UK and OMO in The Netherlands (to make it very simple...). But I don't really know what the french OMO is.
Dash 2 in one is not available in Belgium but it is in France (the UK bold version). Dash here is know for it's stupid commercials mostly asking a wife to wash with dash and skip her old product or a small SOAP serie "the clean corner" but its so embarissing to look at, maybe thats why I don't like dash and ariel, and offcours they are well overpriced here!
@foraloysius
Froggy is not that popular around here. They only market their liquids wich is for some people a big drawback.
Dash 2 in one is not available in Belgium but it is in France (the UK bold version). Dash here is know for it's stupid commercials mostly asking a wife to wash with dash and skip her old product or a small SOAP serie "the clean corner" but its so embarissing to look at, maybe thats why I don't like dash and ariel, and offcours they are well overpriced here!
@foraloysius
Froggy is not that popular around here. They only market their liquids wich is for some people a big drawback.
ronhic
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French OMO
...appears to have the same graphics as both British and Australian SURF...
Though British Surf has enzymes and Australian surf does not...
The Brits have 2 main Lever brands - Persil and Surf.
We have 3 - Drive, OMO and Surf.
Drive is the 'premium' brand here with 2 exzymes and bleach, OMO has 'enzymes' and no bleach (now, it did for a while whilst they trialled a colour format) and surf which has neither.
It is interesting that in the Choice tests, there is negligible difference between Drive/OMO or Drivematic/OMOmatic but OMO/OMOmatic does outperform Drive....cost is not always a reflection of performance...
And one little thing for the Brits...Jif is Jif, not Cif...
...appears to have the same graphics as both British and Australian SURF...
Though British Surf has enzymes and Australian surf does not...
The Brits have 2 main Lever brands - Persil and Surf.
We have 3 - Drive, OMO and Surf.
Drive is the 'premium' brand here with 2 exzymes and bleach, OMO has 'enzymes' and no bleach (now, it did for a while whilst they trialled a colour format) and surf which has neither.
It is interesting that in the Choice tests, there is negligible difference between Drive/OMO or Drivematic/OMOmatic but OMO/OMOmatic does outperform Drive....cost is not always a reflection of performance...
And one little thing for the Brits...Jif is Jif, not Cif...
And, in the States,
Jif is a (delicious!) peanut butter!
Lawrence/Maytagbear
Jif is a (delicious!) peanut butter!
Lawrence/Maytagbear
zanussi_lover
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One thing that they still sell in France is.
Ariel Alpine, I miss the stuff, can't believe they took it off the shelves ages ago, back in 2001
they still sell in in France, i really want some
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Ariel Alpine, I miss the stuff, can't believe they took it off the shelves ages ago, back in 2001
they still sell in in France, i really want some
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zanussi_lover
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Dixan is awesome!
askomiele
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Dixan is really good! It's the cheapest henkel quality product available, without any complaints!
Because of the 100years Persil they made metalic boxes with nice pictures of persil. So now I'm still washing with persil bought about a year ago (the green version). We was apparantly lot's of colored things and I had to buy the color tins twice! But I think to buy Dixan next time for my whites.
Who uses his normal (universal) product to do colored/dark items? Do they tend to fade? Or is it just me getting caught by clever marketeers who say that you have to wash colored items with a special detergent?
Because of the 100years Persil they made metalic boxes with nice pictures of persil. So now I'm still washing with persil bought about a year ago (the green version). We was apparantly lot's of colored things and I had to buy the color tins twice! But I think to buy Dixan next time for my whites.
Who uses his normal (universal) product to do colored/dark items? Do they tend to fade? Or is it just me getting caught by clever marketeers who say that you have to wash colored items with a special detergent?
IMHO, most laundry detergents sold in France are VERY highly scented. Guess it comes from the old tale about the French loving perfumes and such. Walking down the detergent aisle of Monoprix or Ed's is likely to bowl one over with powerful scents.
Some think the high scent factor has to do with the fact many people in France, especially those living in urban areas, still line dry their laundry. Line drying can mean anything from a true clothes line or such, to simply draping all that wet laundry all over the apartment/house to dry.
Savon de Marseille,
There are many scents to unscented variations of the soap, same with the laundry products claiming to contain SdeM.
In it's pure form, SdeM does not have a scent, much like many soaps, other than whatever fats, oils and such that go into production. Have a good stash of SdeE and different brands have a different smell. Savon d'Alep, the "middle-eastern" version of olive oil soap, is scented with laurel leaves, so there is that as well.
The box of "Le Chat" shown on the right side of the picture, is soap flakes, sold for laundering baby's and children's laundry. Billed as hypoallergenic, it contians mainly soap, phosphonates and that is pretty much about it. No fragrance or such additives.
One assumes the makers of "Le Chat" have found a formula that allows a soap based laundry product to be used in washing machines without getting too sudsy, and eventually gunking up the washer.
L.
Some think the high scent factor has to do with the fact many people in France, especially those living in urban areas, still line dry their laundry. Line drying can mean anything from a true clothes line or such, to simply draping all that wet laundry all over the apartment/house to dry.
Savon de Marseille,
There are many scents to unscented variations of the soap, same with the laundry products claiming to contain SdeM.
In it's pure form, SdeM does not have a scent, much like many soaps, other than whatever fats, oils and such that go into production. Have a good stash of SdeE and different brands have a different smell. Savon d'Alep, the "middle-eastern" version of olive oil soap, is scented with laurel leaves, so there is that as well.
The box of "Le Chat" shown on the right side of the picture, is soap flakes, sold for laundering baby's and children's laundry. Billed as hypoallergenic, it contians mainly soap, phosphonates and that is pretty much about it. No fragrance or such additives.
One assumes the makers of "Le Chat" have found a formula that allows a soap based laundry product to be used in washing machines without getting too sudsy, and eventually gunking up the washer.
L.
Fading
IMHO, has more to do with the tons of bluing and whitening agents in washing powders for "whites" than anything else.
Many detergents for coloured items contain oxygen bleach, if nothing else to counter act the effects of chlorine in tap water, and also to help with dye transfer.
True oxygen bleach can fade black or very dark colours, but since most coloured and dark clothing is washed at temps (or should be least), below 100F, don't see how simply exposing such to oxygen bleach will cause that much fading.
Perhaps this occurs with long and repeated exposure?
Use a different detergent for coloured things and darks (the horrid smelling Persil for darks), but only because one wishes to limit exposure of those items to optical brightening agents.
To remove stubborn stains from coloured items, have been known to add a bit of oxygen bleach, and nothing happened, aside from the stain being removed.
IMHO, has more to do with the tons of bluing and whitening agents in washing powders for "whites" than anything else.
Many detergents for coloured items contain oxygen bleach, if nothing else to counter act the effects of chlorine in tap water, and also to help with dye transfer.
True oxygen bleach can fade black or very dark colours, but since most coloured and dark clothing is washed at temps (or should be least), below 100F, don't see how simply exposing such to oxygen bleach will cause that much fading.
Perhaps this occurs with long and repeated exposure?
Use a different detergent for coloured things and darks (the horrid smelling Persil for darks), but only because one wishes to limit exposure of those items to optical brightening agents.
To remove stubborn stains from coloured items, have been known to add a bit of oxygen bleach, and nothing happened, aside from the stain being removed.
Hi Ron,
I always use DriveMatic and only buy on sale. That brings the cost down and makes it excellent value for its excellent performance.
I saw the New formula coming signs and gave Unilever a call. They advised that the new product wont be out until the end of February and cant provide any info until then. (I wanted to make sure it was still phosphated and still has the same neutral scent.
Rather than take a chance, when it went on sale yesterday, I bought another 20 boxes to add to the 10 I already have. methinks I wont have to worry about the formula change for at least a couple of years now
I've got a good 60kg of the stuff sitting in a nice dry warm place in the garage.
I always use DriveMatic and only buy on sale. That brings the cost down and makes it excellent value for its excellent performance.
I saw the New formula coming signs and gave Unilever a call. They advised that the new product wont be out until the end of February and cant provide any info until then. (I wanted to make sure it was still phosphated and still has the same neutral scent.
Rather than take a chance, when it went on sale yesterday, I bought another 20 boxes to add to the 10 I already have. methinks I wont have to worry about the formula change for at least a couple of years now
I've got a good 60kg of the stuff sitting in a nice dry warm place in the garage.
ronhic
Well-known member
Nathan...
I am a bit of a powder tart...
I was horrified when they put bleach in OMO Matic a couple of years ago and stopped using it to some degree as I wasn't prepared to trek to Coles to buy the colour version at the time...though I did try it
I am a 'no bleach in my powder' kinda guy, so while I do like Drive matic, I tend not to use it as I tend to use the same powder for all unless there is a colour version. It is a great powder though and I have always loved the scent which hasn't changed in at least 20yrs....unlike Omomatic which seems to vary slightly with every formula change (normally stronger). I still have 5x1kg boxes of Omomatic from 1997.....last of the 1 cup formula. Is a treat to use and I love the slightly 'soapy' smell it has.
If I think about it, I prefer Unilever detergents in general because they are not highly fragranced. They seem to get the balance of 'fresh smell' just right. I can wash, tumble dry or hang outside and then get a small amount of fragrance...just what I like. None of this overpowering stuff that Dynamo/Cold Power etc leave behind.
Another good one to try is Bio-zet. I have not tried their front load powder yet (which isn't available everywhere) but have used their top load powder at the recommended front load dosage. It was on sale the other day for $2.49 down from $6.49....It does make me wonder about front load specific formulations sometimes...double the value for the same price if I buy the top load version....
I also have a passion for Duo. I have used it since it first came out in about 1997ish. Was always good and then they stuffed around with the formulation and I took a rest from it as a result. Added softener, took out enzymes, put back enzymes, more 'flavours'....but they are now owned by PZCussons and are the 'baby brother' to Radiant. The front load powder still has fabric conditioner in it, but I like it. Has the same scent it has always had and the conditioner is very mild....is the only 'conditioner' that I am likely to use (apart from vinegar...lol)
I am a bit of a powder tart...
I was horrified when they put bleach in OMO Matic a couple of years ago and stopped using it to some degree as I wasn't prepared to trek to Coles to buy the colour version at the time...though I did try it
I am a 'no bleach in my powder' kinda guy, so while I do like Drive matic, I tend not to use it as I tend to use the same powder for all unless there is a colour version. It is a great powder though and I have always loved the scent which hasn't changed in at least 20yrs....unlike Omomatic which seems to vary slightly with every formula change (normally stronger). I still have 5x1kg boxes of Omomatic from 1997.....last of the 1 cup formula. Is a treat to use and I love the slightly 'soapy' smell it has.
If I think about it, I prefer Unilever detergents in general because they are not highly fragranced. They seem to get the balance of 'fresh smell' just right. I can wash, tumble dry or hang outside and then get a small amount of fragrance...just what I like. None of this overpowering stuff that Dynamo/Cold Power etc leave behind.
Another good one to try is Bio-zet. I have not tried their front load powder yet (which isn't available everywhere) but have used their top load powder at the recommended front load dosage. It was on sale the other day for $2.49 down from $6.49....It does make me wonder about front load specific formulations sometimes...double the value for the same price if I buy the top load version....
I also have a passion for Duo. I have used it since it first came out in about 1997ish. Was always good and then they stuffed around with the formulation and I took a rest from it as a result. Added softener, took out enzymes, put back enzymes, more 'flavours'....but they are now owned by PZCussons and are the 'baby brother' to Radiant. The front load powder still has fabric conditioner in it, but I like it. Has the same scent it has always had and the conditioner is very mild....is the only 'conditioner' that I am likely to use (apart from vinegar...lol)
aquarius1984
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Have a box of vintage French Dash .....
