LG Dishwasher Inside

[gansky1]

Nearly five years ago, a sales guy at Sears told me LG couldn't decide whether they wanted to build a dishwasher with a filter or a disposer.  They'd had some troubles with the LG models and he wouldn't sell one unless the customer insisted over his attempts at steering them toward another brand.  

A customer of mine bought one of the first LG models on the US market back in '07.  She loved the racking,  the huge capacity and cleaning was excellent.  The first repair came at about the one year mark, LG replaced the entire pump assembly w/motor after a two week wait for the parts and then it sat for another two weeks while a sump seal was ordered and arrived.  It worked for another 2 years well enough and then needed a pump/motor replacement again.  Toward the end of it's 4th year of useful life, an electronic board went out and they ditched the machine for a Bosch.

 

Our member, Frigilux, had an LG (second or third generation?) that he really liked the performance of, but was that the machine that leaked and caused damage?  Maybe he'll chime in here with the history of his machine.

 

 

[logixx]

Here's another model with a different sump. This one doesn't seem to have the problem with the leaking spray arms.

 

[johnb300m]

Well that's better I guess.

IDK if I'd even still touch it.

LG reminds me in a way how United Airlines wants instead to be an IT company that happens to have planes.
Yeah that's working out real well.....

Same with LG, and especially Samsung; electronics companies that think they can make "durable goods" that involve copious amounts of water and electricity.

Adorable (pats them on the head)

 

[joeypete]

Fly AA John! I'll give you a cookie... ;-)

LG/Samsung both seem so gimicky to me. I used an LG front loader for 2 years and it worked great so I won't say much about them. But they are a lot of flash and that's about it.

I mean how complicated can a dishwasher be? Older ones basically just sprayed water all over the place and they cleaned. Maybe because of more water...but there are so many "branded" features these days. It's like a guy with a little wanker wearing fancy clothes and driving a big truck. He still has a little wanker...I mean seriously. :-/

 

[mark_wpduet]

But their FL washers

are not bad (not speaking of longevity) - but I've seen them and they seem to be really good.....

So they are able to make decent washers but they can't make dishwashers? I don't get it.

That last video is MILES better than the first one.

 

[murando531]

Even in that demo cube, the spray is lethargic. I can't help but wonder if these are some of the "HE" dishwashers that have given modern machines such a terrible reputation. My new Whirlpool uses a third of the water shown in the videos, has a tiny pump, and yet has torrents of water spraying from its arms. I frequently have light plastic cups and containers being flipped on the top rack, and I thought that with this machine I wouldn't have to worry about glass bowls clinking on the bottom rack like I used to have in the PC and Voyager, but I still have to stop and rearrange because of it in this new machine. I still have yet to have any issue with leftover soils or a dirty filter, and still have no grime buildup or smells at all, and that's with primarily using the Normal cycle.

 

[johnb300m]

HA!
Joey no worries, I've been on team AA since mid 2012.

Mark you're right on that with the washers. My aunts have an LG FL pair, and they love it. Not a single repair yet.

They too were warned by even the sales staff at Best Buy that repair parts could be hard to come by. But that Best Buy themselves were stocking LG and Samsung parts. So if they had any issues, to call them first.
(Could be well intentioned, or their chance to make repair money)

 

[mark_wpduet]

John

I heard that used to be the case with LG when they first started becoming the LG major appliance name in the USA. I think they were called something else before that and weren't as well known? But now that years have passed now, I heard that the finding parts things wasn't nearly as much of an issue as it once was? I dunno. I could be wrong. I've never owned an LG appliance, and that was one of the main reasons because of what you wrote, I had always heard.....but I've also read other people say that same thing in comments sections on the internet, only to have ANOTHER person comment saying the opposite (that they can find LG parts pretty easily. So I dunno?

 

[johnb300m]

Mark

Maybe you're right.
Maybe it's different now and the fact that parts are more prevalent now, that they've been here longer, maybe it's not as much an issue anymore.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

My brand new Kenmore...

My brand new Kenmore can do lightyears better than this "dishwasher"! Seriously? LG needs to learn from the big guys like Kenmore, Whirlpool, Frigidaire, and GE! Of course, Kenmore is made by Whirlpool. What a disgrace! ARG!!!!

 

[rolls_rapide]

I wonder if the reason for the lacklustre spray arm performance is possibly part of the pre-rinse cycle?

I know that my Bosch dishwasher, and my mum's Bosch dishwasher during the pre-rinse, both machines supply water to all spray arms for a moderate time. It sounds a little lethargic, but I think the reason is to soak the load thoroughly to detect if a water top-up is required.

Then, the diverter valve flips and the stronger sprays are sent to the baskets alternately. I've noticed on my mum's machine that the bottom spray arm sounds even more intense during the wash phase, than it is during pre-rinse - even when that arm is working alone during pre-rinsing.

Final rinse in both machines is of the lethargic type - I wish the load was blasted properly.

 

[nmassman44]

I have an LG dishwasher, not this particular model, but the LDF 5545. The first prerinse is like this and yes it does look weak, but there is a reason for it, not to overload the filtration system. In my machine there are 4 prerinses before the main wash. In the 3rd and 4th prerinses the wash motor ramps up speed and scours each rack alternating between racks. The main wash uses a low, medium and high pressures The low pressure sprays the dishes and lets the detergent soak into the soils on the items in the load, then the dishwasher ramps up pump speed and then washes each rack at medium pressure. In the middle of the wash cycle the pump stops and ramps up pressure to the max and then scours the hell out of everything in the load. Mine has the Quad Wash arm and the arms sweep in a counterclockwise movement. The water reaches to the ceiling of the tank with quite a bit of force.
The top video is not how these dishwashers operate all the time.

 

[whirlykenmore78]

What the hell does that thing think it's doing?

Real wash action part 1:

http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBOicKdpCrw

 

[whirlykenmore78]

Last post was from the commercial dishmachine side:

Here's how a home DW should behave if it works properly. Part 2
WK78

http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=serAPaMtDPA&t=159s

 

[toploader55]

Where's that curtain between the Wash and Rinse section ? I know you took it out for the vid.

I'll have to upload the vid of the Cle at the Golf Club.

 

[toploader55]

Cle 44 at the Golf Club. Finally changed the Chemicals and the machine is much better.

 

[whirlykenmore78]

That's actually not my video Eddie:

No way in hell I could bring a camera into the prison. I found it on YT. Still amazingly strong wash action and build for a modern dishmachine. I'm glad you got the chemicals sorted out on this machine. I have found they do an excellent job of washing and rinsing but it does require the proper chemistry. I know several Ecolab guys who hated these machines until they got to understand how they worked and set their products accordingly. We currently use Solid Power XL and Rinse Dry in our machine.
WK78

 

[gelaundry4ever]

Seriously!

Seriously! My Kenmore 13222 made by Whirlpool cleans better than this "dishwasher"! Really? I would never ever, ever, ever buy an LG after what I saw!

 

[real1]

As for the comment about Vikings....nothing over two stars:

 

 

http://https//www.consumeraffairs.com/homeowners/viking_dishwasher.html