LG Washer

[Sugilatortom]

Bought an LG this year. Great at cleaning....using very little water and detergent....Only down fall is the time it takes to enter the spin cycle.

This machine will sometimes take up to 15 minutes to redistribute the clothes so that the load is even enough to spin out.

If you are not in a hurry.....this machine is great!

I was wondering if comprable machines like the Whirlpool Duet has the same problem?

 

[launderess]

My Appilance Guy

Told us customers have returned LG units because of the long time before ramping up to spin. Many complained the units did not always reach final spin speed, leaving laundry wetter than it should. Over on THS, some have complained of the problem also.

That being said, the black units are very handsome indeed.

 

[appnut]

Member Peteski50 on here can tell you he has the same problem. I'm sure peter will chime in, he seems to have an aversion to long cycles of dishwashers and ashers. But it is a touchy issue. the Duets adn Kenmore Heggies have similiar issues. But also, what consists of what a load is that's having issues like this is also important.

 

[gansky1]

Get a Duet...

I usually wash full loads in my Duet washer and have never had a problem getting anything to spin within a reasonable amount of time. The only time I couldn't get it to spin was when washing a single sweater. Even the two or three small throw-rugs I wash take right off, no messing around. Boom, boom - done!

 

[mayken4now]

Well We Have The

Kenmore HE3T's, and let me tell you, Balanced or not it takes a long time to decide. Decide being the keyword. There have been earlier posts here in this discussion room about the length of time to spin etc.

Do this for a test. Try the "Drain/Spin" option with no laundry in the washer. It has a hard time to determine that it is solo. I love my machines, hoever, the balance sensors need to go away.

I know Launderess posted previously about all front loaders "by design" need to be on a very robust surface (eg concrete flooring) in order to function properly. She is right, however, mine are well balanced and perfectly alligned and still, FOREVER!

I hear your pain. But after all, what's the hurry?

I have the Maytag sets for those personal issues.

Steve

 

[SactoTeddyBear]

Re: LG Compact Combo:

Hey! Club Friends, I've got one of the LG Compact Combo's, for those of you who are newer to the Club. It is a pretty good Washer/Dryer, except for the length of time it takes to Wash, Dry and a complete Cool-Down, even with a Medium and Smaller Load and even with the items being lighter weight. It takes 3 to 4 hours, just for the Wash and Dry and then another 2 to 2 1/2 to 3 hours {depending on the size of the load and the weight of the items} to totally complete the whole Cycle. It does also as with the Full-Size LG's and the other Front-Loaders mentioned, go into a Load Balance/Redistributing, Spinning and Re-Balance/Redistrubting, but it does it only on the Final Spin and it does get up to the requested Spin Speed for the Cycle, for between 2 and 4 minutes per Spin attempt, with the total approx Final Spin time of 12-minutes. I bought it for a specific reason, besides wanting to try it out, but I would never buy another LG Washer or Dryer, not only because of the length of time the Washer takes, but because of the low Water Level in the Normal/Cottons and Sani-Cycles and their Water Level can't be adjusted, like the "Fridgemore's" can be adjusted. "BTW" again for the newer Club Friends, this Compact Combo has the Condensor Dry, instead of a Vented Dry Cycle, so that makes it also that much longer of a Dry Cycle.

Peace and Happy Washing & "Vented" Drying, with Maytag's and Kenmore's, Steve {SactoTeddyBear}...

 

[peteski50]

LG Cycle time!

I have the LG 3677 combo. Same complaint it takes to long to go into a spin. (it wastes a lot of time) After the wash it drains and doesnt turn at all for about 2 to 3 minutes with the pump going on and off. (this is the detergent removal phase) than it will try to get into a spin but will spin on and off about 8 to 12 times depending on the load. Between each rinse it will do the same thing except it will not process the detergent removal process. I calculated the machine wastes about 15 to 20 minutes. The other thing I don't like is the noisy drain pump during the drying cycle. But all combos have that issue. I do like the machine and I could not get another combo that size anyway. Actually from what I was told awhile ago the reason it takes so long to go into a spin is that it looks to get out as much water out of the clothes first. (Dont ask me why) I look foward to chating more about my combo soon.
Peter

 

[Designgeek]

Okay, here's a Really Dumb Question. Or two or three

The large FLs at the laundromats don't seem to take more than a couple of revolutions to distribute the load before they wind up for a spin.

Is that because they're bolted down and built like tanks? Seems to me that a load of 3-5 cubic feet of wet clothes would still cause them to vibrate like crazy.

Is the extended load-balancing time on modern residential FLs a function of having to build these machines with lighter components and/or get down to a reasonable price, or something to do with the electronics, or installation on wood floors, or...?...

And then on the other hand, seems to me you could put a load in when you get home, press the button, and even if it takes four hours to do its thing, you still have time to put the load through the dryer and at least fold it all in a neat pile before you go to bed.

And then on the third hand, I'm starting to see the benefit of those "countdown timers" that let you set the washer to turn itself on while you're asleep or away at work. I used to think they were a frill. But if you have a large household with both adults working during the day, and you have to do lots of loads each week, I can see how that would be useful. (And, use high-strength water supply hoses, and also have a big laundry sink to serve as a surge-hopper for the discharge, all of this to be sure you never come home to a flood.)

(Personally I'm the kind of person who really has trouble scheduling anything: too much of my life is event-driven rather than clock-driven. So the idea of trying to schedule a 4-hour wash cycle also struck me as difficult at best.)

 

[frigilux]

The excessive (10-15 mins?!) time it takes for those machines to ramp up to high spin-speed would drive me up the wall. My 2003 Frigidaire takes only 1 to 3 minutes for that function. Only once or twice has it not reached full speed, and both times it was because I tried to wash a single, heavy item. In those cases, it just keeps reverse-tumbling until the cycle time runs out.

 

[launderess]

Commercial/laundromat washers are indeed bolted down, but there are soft mount models that are not.

On the bolted down models, they will spin no matter how unbalanced a load is. Well at least it seems this way to me since I've never seen one not spin even with one single heavy item. Methinks because of the extra heavy duty suspension system, and or bolting (in hard mount models), there is less risk of the washer banging itself to death. These washers do vibrate, one can feel it coming up through the concrete/tile floors; but most of the energy is sent down through the floors to the building as it should be.

My person opinion on the LG and other tilted drum units is just that, the tilted drum. Having to compensate for the slight angle must keep some of these washers "thinking" longer than they need to be.

L.

 

[peteski50]

Spin Preperation Time!

It is usually not 10 to 15 minutes to get up to spin it is Usually 3 to 6 minutes depending on the load being done. It adds up to about 15 to 18 minutes of extra cycle time if you utilize 3 rinses. I still like the machine even though I think it is annoying and a waste of time.
Peter

 

[frigilux]

Launderess-- that's an interesting observation. Also, I've always wondered if the tilted drum machines cleaned as well as their non-tilted counterparts. Hey, I wonder if the original Neptune FL'ers had a long rebalancing period before the spin cycle. Calling all classic Neptune owners....

By the way, do the newly redesigned MaySung Neptunes have a tilted tub?

I was talking to my Maytag/Frigidaire appliance store owner and he said he ran into a bolt-down Bendix at a house in town a couple of weeks ago. It wasn't being used, but the owners didn't ask him to remove it. (He was replacing an 80's WP pair with new Maytags...)

 

[lavamat_jon]

Interesting.

All the Euro washers I've used (of varying brands) have always got into the spin at latest 2 minutes after draining.

My AEG and Bosch both do a minute or two 800rpm spin, before slowing down, redistributing and speeding to the fast spin; but my Miele just cuts straight to the spin, only doing one burst if it's a heavy load that dewaters a lot; but then it will do that burst, and will have redistributed and will be in the final spin within a minute of draining out the rinse water at the beginning of the spin cycle.

I think Launderess maybe right with her theory of tilted tubs. My Miele takes 7 mins to complete the entire spin cycle, from drain to the end of cycle...

Take care all,

Jon

 

[SactoTeddyBear]

Re: Maytag Neptune Sloped Tub:

My Neptune Washer even with having the Sloped Tub does maybe a couple of redistributings within a couple of minutes and then it starts ramping, it will be up to the High Speed Spin within another couple of minutes and it keeps going, to the ending of the Final Spin. I almost always use the Max-Extract and it certainly doesn't keep redistributing the Load like my "LG" Compact Combo does.

Peace and Happy Ramping and Spinning, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...

 

[spiralator60]

Maytag Neptune Rebalancing

This is something that I've noticed that appears to vary with the type of load being washed, the cycle selected, and the particular spin in the wash cycle. For example, something heavy like a full load of towels can take as long as two minutes to redistribute before the drum starts to spin continuously to get to the point of the "jet engine whirl" sound, after the final rinse. For other, lighter, loads in the drum, this is something usually around a minute. I have one of the earlier models (MAH3000) so this is probably different from later machines in the Neptune line. In case you're wondering, my Neptune is still going strong after eight years.

Darryl

 

[SactoTeddyBear]

Re: My Neptune:

My Neptune is what I call the 2nd generation of the first Manufactured Model's of the MAH-3000 Washer. It has basically the Mold/Mildew problem, until the Retro-Fit Parts being replaced, but nothing else has been wrong with it. I mainly don't like the fact of not having the Window in the Door, to be able to watch the "Action" inside. My Neptune Washer & Gas Dryer are around 8-years old now as well, but it is "subject" to sometime soon being sold, if possible.

Peace and Happy Washing, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...

 

[spiralator60]

Early Generation Neptune

Hi Steve. I completely agree with you about not having a window. That the washer has cleaned so well for me balances this out, in my mind. I've never had a problem with either mold or mildew. The only issue that I have experienced with my Neptune was about three years ago when the machine would not spin at full speed. Fortunately, the only problem was that a single belt connecting the wash drum to the motor needed to be replaced. After five years of moderate to heavy use each week (anywhere between 4-9+ loads), this repair call did not strike me as being unreasonable or costly. Max Extract is a handy feature to have with bulky loads, but I only use it occasionally for things like sleeping bags and loads of towels during very humid weather. Are you looking at the new Neptune model for the future?

Darryl

 

[SactoTeddyBear]

Re: Future Washer and Dryer plans:

Hey! Darryl, you must have quite a large Family or you really like giving your Neptune a real good workout {LOL}...

"BTW" do you have the Matching Dryer and if so, is it Electric or Gas? I've got the Matching Gas Dryer. I've had a slight problem with it, of it having a split on the Upper Right area of the Inner Door Panel and the Door Seal/Gasket keeps slipping out of the Slots, at the lower are of the Inner Door Panel. Until I get it Replaced, I've got to try and remember to push the end and part of the lower Seal/Gasket into the Slots, before closing the Door. The Seal/Gasket does tend to bind somewhat when I am attempting to close the Door, so it does remind me about fixing it before starting the Dryer.I really haven't had that much of a problem with Mold/Mildew with my Neptune Washer, at least not since I figured out about trying to keep the Rubber Boot Dry and keeping the Door opened for a while, after doing Laundry. I've also ran the Washer with some Bleach once in a while, thru a Hot Wash Cycle, just for making sure that any possible Mold/Mildew that I might miss gets taken care of.

As far as my future Washer and Dryer plans, Yes, I've thought about checking out the new Neptunes, but I'm also thinking about the Fridgemore Washer, but specifically the Kenmore Model, because they seem to be having the least Repairs, over the GE and Frigidaire Models. According to everyone that I've talked to, who have or had the GE and Frigidaire Models, they've especially had the Tub Bearing replaced a few times and even the Shock/Stabilizers have had to be Replaced. I've known about a Frigidaire Model that has had both the Inner and Outer Tubs Replaced even on it. I've got several Friends who have or had the Kenmore Models and they've never had any problems with theirs and they even have the Matching Electric Dryer and are real pleased with its Capacity, for all of their Laundry Drying needs.

My only other Brand thought of a Front-Load Washer, is the Kitchen Aid Ensemble, because I can get the Washer {new} at a Dealer here for about $500.00 to $600.00 less than the "MSRP" quoted by a Salesman Friend at this Dealer. They do also carry Maytag and Whirlpool as well, as their Main Brands of new Appliances and they do take Trade-Ins and Sell quite a few 2nd Hand Appliances there too, especially Washers and Dryers.

Peace and Happy Neptune Washing and Drying, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...

 

[appnut]

There again, Sears has their suppliers (in this case Frigidaire) produce the unit to SEARS' specs, which can be better than the "branded" version. (as well as a couple more "bells & whistles")