Liquid detergent with bleaching action?

[mrboilwash]

Looking forward to a vacation in Florida in a week of course I had to check out the current possibilities what detergent I could buy to wash our clothes with.

 

Found this "Ajax Oxy Overload" which is kind of unique. 

Judging from the ingredients at first sight it seems to be a high pH (sodium carbonate) no enzymes BOL detergent, but the interesting part is the Sodium Carbonate Peroxide listed.

 

That`s bleach, isn`t?

 

Oxy by the way is even spelled correctly on this one.

https://www.walgreens.com/store/c/ajax-oxy-overload-linen/ID=300426846-product

 

[qsd-dan]

Yep, looks like it genuinely contains oxygen bleach.

 

[lakewebsterkid]

Wow

That is a new one! I didn't think it was all that stable in a liquid form, therefore it was never produced. Although this does not have an activator, it might do well in true hot water.

 

[launderess]

Contents are listed by order of percentage high to low. Thus amount of sodium carbonate peroxide in this product is low, it's listed just before preservatives, scent, chelating agents and colorants.

water, C10-16 alcohol Ethoxylate, sodium carbonate, sodium laureth sulfate, fragrances, ethanol, lauramidopropylamine oxide, acrylic copolymer, myristamidopropylamine oxide, C12-15 alcohols ethoxylated, polyethylene glycol monomethyl Ether, sodium carbonate peroxide, PEG-10, Methylisothiazolinone, octylisothiazolinone, Phenoxyethyl isobutyrate, Non- EDTA chelant, buffer, colorants, myrcene, Contains fragrance allergens.

In contrast detergent powders with oxygen bleach normally have sodium perborate or sodium percarbonate usually within first five or so ingredients.

 

[launderess]

" I didn't think it was all that stable in a liquid form, therefore it was never produced."

There are all sorts of laundry bleaches, boosters, and other products with various forms of liquid hydrogen peroxide. Just think about brown bottles of hydrogen peroxide sold at chemists, they have pretty decent shelf life.

Clorox II and others have long sold bottles of liquid oxygen bleach for laundry.

One of main issues was that hydrogen peroxide and enzymes aren't a good mix for long shelf life. One kills off the other. Miele and others solve this problem by offering two separate products. A detergent with enzymes, and liquid oxygen bleach separate.

 

[logixx]

Unilever had encapsulated oxygen bleach in some of their European their dishwasher gels. I just found another drugstore gel that claims to fight tea stainas - a claim our other gels don't make. Can't speak to the ingredients as the data sheet download search is based on the EAN code, which I don't have.

Stefan: it's the Blink All in 1 Gel.

 

[mrboilwash]

Hi Alexander,

never tried Müller`s Blink Gel but I`ve checked the ingredients of Action`s Superfinn Gel some time ago when I had a bottle of it.
Not sure if it`s the same stuff but the bottle looks identical to me.
AFAIR it had no bleaching agents but enzymes.

Interestingly Somat has an enzyme based two chamber DW-gel but it has no bleach it. Suppose if they`d put oxygen bleach in a liquid formula it would be too weak and diluted so they don`t even bother .

There`s even an advise printed on the bottle to better use their tabs for tea stains.  

 

I think the purpose for keeping two liquids separated is better shelf life for the enzymes in a more neutral pH.

Checked the MSDS and the enzyme containing phase is almost neutral at pH 7,2-7,8 whereas the other phase is quite caustic at pH 11,0-11,4.

https://www.action.com/de-de/p/superfinn-spulmaschinen-gel-/

 

[logixx]

Well, I got the ingredients. Nothing in it says "tea stain removal" to me...

Aqua
Sodium Citrate
Trisodium Dicarboxymethyl Alaninate
PBTC
Acrylic Copolymer
Ethanol
Alcohols C12-C15 ethoxylated propoxylated
Alcohols C13 ethoxylated
Amylase
Subtilisin (protease)
Xanthan Gum
Parfum/Perfume
Benzotriazole
Zinc Citrate
Benzisothiazolinone+Methylisothiazolinone
Colorant

 

[mrboilwash]

Doesn`t surprise me it`s just an advertising claim without substance.
Plain water is better on tea stains than not washing at all so it`s not even false advertising.

What happened to Unilever`s gel with ecapsulated oxygen bleach?
Guess it wasn`t so great either and disappeared again as fast as it hit the market.
I do like the gel formats every now and then for crystal clear glasses.

 

[iej]

A lot of encapsulation in liquids stopped when they discovered the damage and that plastic micro-beads were doing. They pass straight through almost sewage treatment and get ingested by aquatic life that mistakes them for food like eggs and planktons and it causes serious problems / death.

As a result they’re banned in the US, Canada, UK, Ireland and France, Italy, the Netherlands, Sweden, India and New Zealand, that I am aware of. The EU has yet to complete an EU wide ban and there has been a shocking amount of foot dragging on the topic, so several EU countries banned them before the EU acted and have agreement from the Commission to do so - including to ban the import and sale of products, despite the Single Market rules.