Look what I found!

[brianl]

What if I don't smoke

My partner might leave me if he sees me to excited by my washers Nonetheless, that spin cycle is wicked. Even though the feet were level, it started walking across my floor a little. My load was a bit unbalanced, and until it started getting up to a good speed, it kinda decided to go for a little walk to my surprise!

 

[mickeyd]

Brian, I had the same trouble with overfilling in the '5

The machine had passed thru at least five Aworg brothers.
It is a beautiful machine, as you might imagine with the care it has received.
But the new timer motor installed somewhere along the great parade of owners--maybe Mark Lightedcontrols-- caused the machine to overfill.

(If you were getting a two minute pump out after the first fill, you were filling the tub TWICE!)

I did what you were talking about. Reduced the pressure at the faucets till the fill level matched the fill time. Works perfectly. We had the same idea.

Good luck with your beautiful machine. Make sure the round little metal feet are level. If not, adjust, and the walking should stop.

 

[brianl]

Even though I reduced the water pressure, I let it go for close to 6 minutes, and it still did not go in wash. Even at the 4 minute mark. If I bring it to a rinse agitate, it will immediately start to work. Then bring it back to the 4 minute mark on the wash, and it will begin to agitate. Really strange. As before, I only noticed it leaking during spin and not any other time. Not sure what that is about. Are the bellows save-able if they are working fine, or should they be replaced?

 

[mickeyd]

Don go near them if they're working fine--Good Lord

I'm tellin' ya Brain: putting on a Unimatc water bellows is one of the hardest things ever. Maybe the pros know some tricks, but if yours are fine and dandy, count yer lucky stars, Man, and let them be.

Leaks during spin: did you check the hose that leads from the pump to the drain hose port for tiny leaks?

 

[thomasortega]

If the bellows are working fine (of course you'll check carefully BEFORE removing them) I think you won't need to remove them.

However (I hate this word), you'll have to remobe them to reach the transmission to replace those fu**ing bearings).

A lady like that wouldn't like to be heard by the neighbours 1 mile away from you.

 

[brianl]

Darn those bearings

I will definitely check the bellows out and I have a c-clamp, so I will carefully remove the ring that holds the bellows down. I will take pics as I go in case I get stuck. Gotta check the hose when I got it apart. I am sure it could use a new one anyway after all these years.

Thanks,
Brian

 

[mickeyd]

Brian,

what happens when you start the machine at "10" and slowly advance the timer to "6" ? Does the agitation begin? Getting very curious as to what your machine is doing?

You know of course that you can always advance the timer to shorten a fill, yes?

 

[jetcone]

Amazing find in the old

Home Town.

Post working pics when you get it.

 

[brianl]

Hey Mike,

Was not aware you can advance the timer to shorten a wash fill, just a rinse fill I thought. Can you advance the timer while it is pushed in and running? I would advance the timer by pulling out and moving it a minute or 2 and then pushing it back in. Only after I bring it to the rinse and then back to the wash cycle at 4 minutes, will it start to agitate. Left to its own devices, it will keep filling in the wash cycle and never stop. Maybe I am resetting something?

Hey Jon,

Yes looking forward to taking some pics. Should have taken longer video of the cycles, but my memory card was telling me otherwise.

 

[Unimatic1140]

Brian the way the timer works is when you select a wash time and push the dial in the timer automatically fills for 4 minutes (8 increment-clicks) and on the 9th click it starts agitation.

Try this pull the dial out and turn it all the around to off and push it in. Now pull the dial out and turn it to 10 minutes of wash and push it in. With the dial PUSHED IN, turn it until it starts to agitate (around the '6' on the dial).

Next pull the dial out and turn it around to off and push it in to reset it again. Now pull the timer knob out again and set it to the 4 minute mark. With the dial PUSHED IN again, turn it until it starts to agitate. It should fill for about 8 clicks again and start to wash.

Remember turning the dial around to the off mark resets the wash fill memory.

 

[brianl]

I will definitely try that when I get home. I am very curious as to whether that will work (probably will). Was there talks somewhere about replacing that motor with another on some other thread? Obviously I don't mind it being a semi-automatic, as it makes great custom cycles, but still want to fix it obviously.

 

[thomasortega]

Robert

what's that small tv right behing you?

If it's a national/panasonic, I have one exactly like that. and mine is mint-in-box.

 

[hooverwheelaway]

Thomas~

Yes.. That is a Panasonic. It's my "addition" to our Vintage TV collection.

I found it at a rummage sale about 15 years ago -- paid $10 for it. It works wonderfully -- except for the fact that TV is now broadcast in digital, and it can't pick up any channels any more.

I'd love to see yours! Or at least the box these bad boys came in. ((I'm a sucker for original boxes))
Could you post a picture of it?

~Fred

 

[thomasortega]

I don't have the box anyore, but I'm going to find some pictures and post here.

 

[thomasortega]

better than that

I'm going to create a new thread.

 

[brianl]

The timer trick worked

Pushed the timer in on off, pulled it out, cycled it all the way to off again, pushed it in, pulled it out, set it to 10 min on the wash cycle, and while pushed in, turned it 8 clicks. On the 8th click, it stopped the solenoid and started to agitate. Same from the 4 min mark.

So I guess the problem lies that since the timer is not advancing, neither is the ability to shut off the solenoid. Again the solenoid assembly looks original to the unit from what I seen in the service manual, but I could be wrong. I gotta start tearing the washer down and catch up quick to Tom's point in restoration.

Tom, if I am too slow for whatever reason, and you have time to restore yours, please feel free to startup again on yours. Many thanks though to putting yours on hold for me. That means a lot to me. I will do my best to tear mine down before Wed. as I am anxious to get the bearings replaced and check out my bellows and seals. I'm sure I am going to need one of those at the very minimum.

Brian

 

[thomasortega]

Don't worry Brian

All the operation up to the point I am won't take more than 1 hour. Of course, you're going to have many interruptions to find some answers to your questions.

Don't forget the camera to registrate each step, our threads may help more people someday.

 

[thomasortega]

Right now Brian just removed the water bellow. It seems to be perfect.

oil bellow is damaged.

He's going to post some pictures later. keep your fingers crossed for him!

 

[brianl]

Here comes the pics!

Pulsator nut still on, agitator off.

 

[brianl]

Using 3/4 Craftsmen wrench to get pulsator nut off.

 

[brianl]

Pulsator nut top

 

[brianl]

Pulsator nut bottom.

 

[brianl]

Pulsator off the washer.

 

[brianl]

Pulsator bottom.

 

[brianl]

Pulsator bottom closeup.

 

[brianl]

Water bellow.

 

[brianl]

Pulsator with ring on yet. Closeup of knick that I made

 

[brianl]

Oil inside the water bellow.

 

[brianl]

Ewww, Yuck!

 

[brianl]

Another shot of the water bellow where I knicked it.