fonografmaniac
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here's a rare portable record player i got off ebay, but it does need some work. help me out if yall can.
look what i got off ebay!
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whirlcool
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Thats a pretty common problem with older turntables. Just take it out of the case and clean off all the old lubricants and apply new synthetic ones. The mechanism will work like new!
fonografmaniac
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whrilcool, it has a bad drive wheel which it doesn't hardly grip on turtable and i also lubed the unit too. does anyone know any online services where i can get the drive wheel rebuilt?
are you happy~
I can tell you are~!
Yes, that is a rather rare unit. I totally dug it and wouldn't mind having a cool battery powered record changer myself, either~.
Would you please play the ARE YOU HAPPY record for me so I can learn the words? I have an organ version also from 1927 which I just love but no words. Yours record is also from 1927 I do believe - It's a gene austin and probably a 27000 series Victor Orthophonic record, but I'm just guessing, based on your video presentation, and that Awesome Arvin.
Here's a site where you can begin to inquire about your idler wheel replacement. There are many other options as well.
Thanks.
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I can tell you are~!
Yes, that is a rather rare unit. I totally dug it and wouldn't mind having a cool battery powered record changer myself, either~.
Would you please play the ARE YOU HAPPY record for me so I can learn the words? I have an organ version also from 1927 which I just love but no words. Yours record is also from 1927 I do believe - It's a gene austin and probably a 27000 series Victor Orthophonic record, but I'm just guessing, based on your video presentation, and that Awesome Arvin.
Here's a site where you can begin to inquire about your idler wheel replacement. There are many other options as well.
Thanks.
B
Would some belt dressing not work on the drive wheel if it's worn shiny? Something else that might give it some grip is carefully applying a thin coating of silcone adhesive to the contact areas around the drive wheel to build it up enough that it contacts the table. OR applying some anti-slip tape around the inside rim of the table, the stuff you get at hardware stores for putting on steps, trim to fit. Just some ideas that might work if you can't find a replacement.
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They rebuild idler wheels. I haven't tried them but hopefully they do a good job.
And that other problem with that VM turntable is it shuts off if you play one record or the last record. I'm not sure why some do that but the VM tt that was in a Philco console I had used to do that.
Other than that, I'd like one of those myself hehe.
They rebuild idler wheels. I haven't tried them but hopefully they do a good job.
And that other problem with that VM turntable is it shuts off if you play one record or the last record. I'm not sure why some do that but the VM tt that was in a Philco console I had used to do that.
Other than that, I'd like one of those myself hehe.
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PRB sells replacement wheels for common sizes, and will also rebuild them. I think it's around $40 to have one rebuilt.
If the wheel is shiny and slippery, I've had good luck using an emery board or fingernail file to rough them up slightly. Then I use belt/wheel dressing IF I'm sure that it won't damage the rubber. Some types of rubber can turn to putty if you apply some types of chemicals to them.
-kevin
If the wheel is shiny and slippery, I've had good luck using an emery board or fingernail file to rough them up slightly. Then I use belt/wheel dressing IF I'm sure that it won't damage the rubber. Some types of rubber can turn to putty if you apply some types of chemicals to them.
-kevin
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the 78 may be Johnny Marvin, not Gene Austin...either way I'd love to hear it.
This is the sheet music for the same song, and it says Johnny Marvin sang it.
I do not recommend filing rubber. If it don't work right, you need a new one. It'll either work right or it won't. Once rubber is perished, that's all she wrote when the pencil broke.
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the 78 may be Johnny Marvin, not Gene Austin...either way I'd love to hear it.
This is the sheet music for the same song, and it says Johnny Marvin sang it.
I do not recommend filing rubber. If it don't work right, you need a new one. It'll either work right or it won't. Once rubber is perished, that's all she wrote when the pencil broke.
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whirlcool
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Yes, I have a guy who does a fantastic job on rerubbering idler wheels. Terry has been in the rerubbering business for quite a number of years. He uses a special compound in his rubber that allows it to remain soft and pliable for many years, unlike the original rubber supplied when the turntable was new.
I had him do a few for me, and I strobe checked them when he was done and the strobe stayed perfectly on target without any wavering at all.
The problem with idler wheels is that while the rubber is easy to get, the brass centers that the rubber is mounted on is hard to machine and get right.
Another trick you can try is to clean the inside of the turntable platter with isopropyl alcohol. Sometimes that can make the idler wheel grip more.
You can also take a emery board to the outside of the idler wheel and scuff it up very slightly. I have seen that work too. If both fail, then it's time to resurface the idler wheel.
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I had him do a few for me, and I strobe checked them when he was done and the strobe stayed perfectly on target without any wavering at all.
The problem with idler wheels is that while the rubber is easy to get, the brass centers that the rubber is mounted on is hard to machine and get right.
Another trick you can try is to clean the inside of the turntable platter with isopropyl alcohol. Sometimes that can make the idler wheel grip more.
You can also take a emery board to the outside of the idler wheel and scuff it up very slightly. I have seen that work too. If both fail, then it's time to resurface the idler wheel.
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fonografmaniac
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whirlcool, what can i use to do that? also why does the changer shuts off after the record drops unless i raise the overarm a bit?
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whirlcool, what can i use to do that?
I don't understand. Do what?
I don't understand. Do what?
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whirlcool! resurfacing the drive wheel.
whirlcool
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You use an emery board or a piece of very fine sandpaper. Just give the idler wheel a slight scuffing on the outside making sure that you evenly scuff the rubber all around. Maybe 3 or 4 light scrapes per section should do it.
If your rubber seems shiny, just give is a light scrape until it dulls.
As for the tonearm, I don't know about Arvin, but in Dual turntables there is a tiny plastic guide in the tonearm base that becomes worn and replacing it restores the proper tone arm function. Maybe there could be a auto shut off switch that is out of adjustment?
If your rubber seems shiny, just give is a light scrape until it dulls.
As for the tonearm, I don't know about Arvin, but in Dual turntables there is a tiny plastic guide in the tonearm base that becomes worn and replacing it restores the proper tone arm function. Maybe there could be a auto shut off switch that is out of adjustment?
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well guy, i'm going to get a new drive wheel and a repair manual from my arvin/vm changer from the vm site. once i fix, i'll make a vid of on youtube.
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That's excellent news, phonografmaniac. New parts work best and a repair manual will be able to accurately tell you how to adjust your record stabilizer/shut-off situation. I have had that same issue on VM's before and have been able to fix it but I am not able to describe to you how~!
It has something to do with a tiny lever & spring which are actuated by the base of the record-stabilizer and tells it when to stop cycling and shut off after the last record. If you get the manual, it's sure to cover this adjustment.
Also thank you for taking the time to upload Are You Happy for me to youtube. I'm also bidding on the sheet music for that same song.
Good Luck - have fun & Be Happy~. Keep us updated on little Arvin's progress.
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That's excellent news, phonografmaniac. New parts work best and a repair manual will be able to accurately tell you how to adjust your record stabilizer/shut-off situation. I have had that same issue on VM's before and have been able to fix it but I am not able to describe to you how~!
It has something to do with a tiny lever & spring which are actuated by the base of the record-stabilizer and tells it when to stop cycling and shut off after the last record. If you get the manual, it's sure to cover this adjustment.
Also thank you for taking the time to upload Are You Happy for me to youtube. I'm also bidding on the sheet music for that same song.
Good Luck - have fun & Be Happy~. Keep us updated on little Arvin's progress.
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