mielerod69
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more photos
i've added some photos of the interior
i've added some photos of the interior
Look what I got today
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There's no need to buy to TOL or mid range Miele DW..go for the lowest priced one like I did. Other than custom fronts or hidden controls the machines are more or less the same for half the cost. Besides..you don't want it camoflouged where no one see's it particularly yourself. That's the G865 behind Ben with the Turbothermic option and the plain old cutlery basket rather than the tray, which you can buy separately and add on later. I still figure the tray is more fuss than the basket and blocks the top spray arm from cleaning the top rack as well as when it's not in there.
kenmore1978
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Price differences
In australia, a cheapie dishwasher is $500-600AUD (US$385-463)
A normal priced dishwasher is about $1000-$1200 (US$772-926)
A mid range miele is about $2000 (US$1543)
One can get a "cheapie" dishwasher here for about US$200 (AU$259), so you're right, your starting price points are a lot higher than ours
In australia, a cheapie dishwasher is $500-600AUD (US$385-463)
A normal priced dishwasher is about $1000-$1200 (US$772-926)
A mid range miele is about $2000 (US$1543)
One can get a "cheapie" dishwasher here for about US$200 (AU$259), so you're right, your starting price points are a lot higher than ours
FWIW, Miele base dishwashers sell at £350-£400 ($653-$747), mid range dishwashers £450-£650 ($840-£1214), and high end dishwashers £700-£1000 ($1307-$1868).
The crap dishwashers (Italian brands such as Indesit, Beko, Candy etc) start at £199 ($371), and you can get a decent dishwasher from £300 ($560). Bosch dishwashers vary from £250/$467 for the base (and crap IMO) model, to £500/$934 for the fully automatic model.
FWIW, I paid £660/$1233 for my Miele washer (a bargain as it was reduced from £900/$1681, and sells for £1100/$2055 on the high street), and it's worth every penny IMO.
Jon
The crap dishwashers (Italian brands such as Indesit, Beko, Candy etc) start at £199 ($371), and you can get a decent dishwasher from £300 ($560). Bosch dishwashers vary from £250/$467 for the base (and crap IMO) model, to £500/$934 for the fully automatic model.
FWIW, I paid £660/$1233 for my Miele washer (a bargain as it was reduced from £900/$1681, and sells for £1100/$2055 on the high street), and it's worth every penny IMO.
Jon
taxation
In many countries people are buying with what we consider GROSS salaries and paying a V.A.T (Value-added tax)that is built-into the price of the goods.
Here we pay income taxes up-front and get NET (after-tax)salaries. In most places here, the tax must be separately disclosed and charged. Not necessarily so elsewhere.
This is why we (the US) attract and look so good to incoming laborers. The "CASH" (off-the-books)economy is basically untaxed and there is more buying power if you are not feeding Uncle Sam or payign a VAT that is unavoidable.
to antoher country and get a job earning undeclared "Cash" we would be paying the equivalent of income taxes and sales taxes, but VAT taxes hidden in the price of the goods. Even illegal immigrants effectively pay taxes in that system.
So I'm guessing if we increased our pices by about 40% (or what we give Uncle Sam) the closer our price would be to what the world ends up paying for goods...
I had realtives come visit the US and bought a German washing machine from here to ship it back to Europe. Without the V.A.T it looked VERY inexpensive to them, even with shipping costs.
In many countries people are buying with what we consider GROSS salaries and paying a V.A.T (Value-added tax)that is built-into the price of the goods.
Here we pay income taxes up-front and get NET (after-tax)salaries. In most places here, the tax must be separately disclosed and charged. Not necessarily so elsewhere.
This is why we (the US) attract and look so good to incoming laborers. The "CASH" (off-the-books)economy is basically untaxed and there is more buying power if you are not feeding Uncle Sam or payign a VAT that is unavoidable.
to antoher country and get a job earning undeclared "Cash" we would be paying the equivalent of income taxes and sales taxes, but VAT taxes hidden in the price of the goods. Even illegal immigrants effectively pay taxes in that system.
So I'm guessing if we increased our pices by about 40% (or what we give Uncle Sam) the closer our price would be to what the world ends up paying for goods...
I had realtives come visit the US and bought a German washing machine from here to ship it back to Europe. Without the V.A.T it looked VERY inexpensive to them, even with shipping costs.
to antoher country and get a job earning undeclared "Cash" we would be paying
SHOULD READ: If we were to go to another country and get a job earning undeclared "Cash" we would NOT be paying...income taxes but a VAT tax...
SHOULD READ: If we were to go to another country and get a job earning undeclared "Cash" we would NOT be paying...income taxes but a VAT tax...
