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Many fine mixers of the 50's lost their following for requiring too much manual assist. (bowl scraping) Sunbeam with Bowl-Fit beaters and Kitchenaid with planetary action are among the best and Westinghouse and Dormeyer among the worst. I found a bowl from a newer sunbeam at the thrift store and decided to try it on the sunbeam MSP-1 which needed help in it's maiden mix with a 1234 cake. The results were quite remarkable.

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Close fit

The original 4 quart Sunbeam FireKing glass bowl is 9 1/2 inches across. The newer bowl is 8 1/2 at the top and closer to 8 inches at the bottom as it tapers. It brings the beaters just to the edge and the mixer completed it's takse without the need of a rubber scraper and in less than half the time. You'd think designers would have thought of that as they left the drawing board with proto types.

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Dormeyer

I've noticed that the Dormeyer Silver Chef models come closer to the sides of the bowl than the Power Chef models. The stainless bowls have straight sides whereas the milk glass bowls taper out.
 
KA 45 Bowls

I just came across a pair of stainless bowls for a KA 45 model at Salvation Army today. One had a lip all the way around the top edge, the other didn't. Does anyone know if one bowl is older than the other? They are both the basic type without a handle. I thought one might be an insert, but those are copper, not stainless, right? I'm thinking the one with the lip is older, because I don't think it would accept the "Tupperware" lid that newer models often include.

$5.50 each. I'm debating on whether I really need an extra.
 
Rip your lips off!

The first 41/2 quart stainless bowls had a small, sharp edged lip. Later models in the 70's had a rolled edge and handles came later in the early 90's. The bowl with the lip is older.
 
Bad Mouthing Bad Mixers

Sandy,
I have no idea how long it's been since you used a Dormeyer without a governor controlled motor, but I want to watch the first time you try to use one to mix a cake or cookies from scratch. I am sure the process will get the attention of your artritis.
 
Aw, Nuts...

...Y'know I'm kiddin', right?

Anyway, as much baking as I do these days, I don't think a Dormeyer's going to hurt me much, LOL. I could probably make a lamp out of one and get more use out of it!

Still gotta find the right one, though.
 
Beat, Butter, Whip, Cream - work it till stiff, don't ov

Kelly, I always did wonder about your screen name.
Now, I know.

You and Toggles would make a fantastic bad cop/bad-ass cop team.

And they get the vapors over my little bon mots...
 
Kenmore-Dormeyer-Westinghouse.....

The Dormeyer has a much faster motor than a Sunbeam, but you do have to stay right with it,true, the stainless bowl models are much better than the glass,I have a Westinghouse I love,but to me,the best of all is a Kenmore,I use a yellow 1956 Kenmore ALL the time,it was made by Birtman electric Co.and works great,To me the worst mixer is a Nutone,I have one built in to my cabinet,the other attachments are great,but if you want to lose your religion real quick..try to make a pound cake with it!!
 
Nu-Tone

I remember the excitement of using a Nu-Tone for the first time. I was surprised at how little strength the motor delivered to say nothing of pushing the batter out of the bowl as the beater plowed ahead. I have two 55 Kenmore's, pink and green. They do an very nice job.

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Thanks for the info on the KA bowls Sandy. I may go back and get me one.

Oh, and shouldn't the thread title begin with "gain a few inches . . ." ?
 
GE Profile JBP83???

Mixfinder, Your range looks identical(other than its color) to the one I found at "The Great Indoors" for $399.It was absolutely the best range I ever owned and used!The dual speed convection oven,the lower oven(storage drawer) and the easy to keep clean smoothtop were unremarkable.I only wish I could have kept it (sold it for $900)and had it shipped here.
 
Ah, Toggles

I was always more of a Mae West type.

Dormeyer built such good machines, it is a pity that they didn't pay just a tiny bit more attention to the details.

Kelly, a question. Why are beaters such a difficult machine to get right?
 
Dormeyer motors

I do prefer the efficiency of the Sunbeam Bowl Fit beaters but just for the record Dormeyer Power Chef and Silver Chef/Silver Star models had governor controlled motors. The less expensive offshoots such as Meal Maker, Mixwell, etc did not have the governor control.
 
Toggles I had the same reaction to the thread title. And I thought ...who would want to lose an inch and then cream?!? But then I saw it was about mixer bowls....
 
Sandy's Dream Machine

Sandy is waiting to find an all chrome Mix-Well, which is not governor controlled, so I chide it about that. I enjoy double entendre and a chatchy title never hurts to get someone's attention. Beater shapes and even the depth of grove in each blade where it is concave or convex and the direction of the beaters all have an impact on how efficient the mixer is. It's been my experience that using mixers like General Electric, Westinghouse and Hamilton Beach that have no center post seem to whipe faster and aerate more. That said those machine take longer to beat mixtures smooth. I have one of the newest Sunbeams and the beater blades are very thick, have to indentation or center post. The mixing dynamic is so crude it is almost impossible to use it to whip and it's bludgeons out the air. Boy howdy, do I love my range. In the face of so many vintage lovers and I was among the most devout, I have really fallen hard fo the GE convection, it's ease of use and cleaning. It has ruined me for using conventional ranges, my timing is way off.

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It is bad to lose one's timing so early in one's career.

How pleasing to me that your range (cooker) is pleasing to you!

Luv ya, mean it!
 
Kelly have you tried one of these Mixmasters, I think they called them the Euromixer style. I found this one at a thrift store and it works really well, very quite and smooth. I think when I bought it it had glass bowls.. I just use the extra stainless bowls I have.

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Yeah, Kelly's Just Giving Me a Hard Time:

He likes to tease me about my predilection for Dormeyers, which is fine, because as I've said, it ain't like I'm doing enough mixing for any machine's quirks to bother me much, LOL. There are two Dormeyers I would like to have - one is the Model 5700 Princess, which is the all-chrome version of the white Model 5100 my mom had. These date from around 1958 or so. The other is the SM 4 CH Silver Star, which was made for most of the 1950s. Here's a photo of each; the Princess is on top, and a Silver Star from eBay is on the bottom:

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Euro Style

The Euro style hit America in 1990, the first Australian Sunbeam released to the American market. It is deceptively powerful, very quiet and with it's low profile will hide in the smallest of cupboards. I had one when they were new and traded it to my sister. She loves it, says not to try and talk her in to anything else, it meets her needs and she stores it under the counter and its very light. The speed control on hers is a bit wonky. It doubles the increment for each speed and by the time you reach setting 5 its already slinging the food out of the bowl and hitting 1140 RPMs. Must explain the dry cakes!!!
 

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