rinso
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The GE Mobile Maids of the late 1950's and early 1960's, with the bowtie impellers, were quite loud as I remember.
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We only had two dishwashers - a 1958 GE, and a 1971 KitchenAid; both built-ins. Neither were silent, but the GE was somewhat louder.
norgeway
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Yall have never heard a loud dishwasher
Until you hear a Hotpoint with the 1725 rpm motor, Sounds like a garbage disposal fighting a chain saw!
Until you hear a Hotpoint with the 1725 rpm motor, Sounds like a garbage disposal fighting a chain saw!
My dishwasher runs the pump impeller at 2,300 to 2,850 RPM for recirculation, 4,200 for drain. Water spray sounds obscure the impeller whirr during recirculation but it's noticeable during drain.
Hi Barry. It would be great if you could please post a link to the appropriate Styrofoam insert for my GE 2800. I didn't even know this was possible till I read your post. I've searched for it but I'm not sure which one to go for. Thank you!
P.S. I've already wrapped my 2800 in Dynamat and it's made a significant difference. It would be good to quieten down the vent too.
Mark
P.S. I've already wrapped my 2800 in Dynamat and it's made a significant difference. It would be good to quieten down the vent too.
Mark
Quieting down a noisi dishwasher
Hi Mark, the little Styrofoam insert that GE started using later makes a small difference but it was a real simple fix for GE to make a noticeable difference.
Does your 2800 still have the original Noisi motor or has it been upgraded with the new PSC motor that’s the most effective single thing you can do with that dishwasher.
It’s also important to get rid of the original motor that leads to a lot of board failures and burnt wire connections at the board. The power consumption goes down to less than 1/3 of what the Noisi motor used and the other problem with the shady pole motor was the speed of it varied as it was washing and it would drive you nuts Because this sound kept varying.
Mark, are you using your 2800 now I’d love to see your cleaning test to see if it really washes peanut butter out of the glasses in the corners of the upper rack when loaded with a mixed load of utensils in the lower rack. I always love your testing results.
John
Hi Mark, the little Styrofoam insert that GE started using later makes a small difference but it was a real simple fix for GE to make a noticeable difference.
Does your 2800 still have the original Noisi motor or has it been upgraded with the new PSC motor that’s the most effective single thing you can do with that dishwasher.
It’s also important to get rid of the original motor that leads to a lot of board failures and burnt wire connections at the board. The power consumption goes down to less than 1/3 of what the Noisi motor used and the other problem with the shady pole motor was the speed of it varied as it was washing and it would drive you nuts Because this sound kept varying.
Mark, are you using your 2800 now I’d love to see your cleaning test to see if it really washes peanut butter out of the glasses in the corners of the upper rack when loaded with a mixed load of utensils in the lower rack. I always love your testing results.
John
reactor
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vent pad
Hello Mark,
Attached is a picture of GE's Vent Pad for your dishwasher.
The GE model number is WD1X1467. They are easy to find. Sears Parts Direct has them for about 7 dollars, however that does not include shipping. You may find one for less on Ebay or another appliance part store.
I apologize, I was hoping I had one in stock and I would send it to you but I checked and don't have any right now.
GE's non-PSC (Permanent Split Capacitor) motor, as you know are extraordinarily reliable and I wouldn't recommend replacing it, unless the background noise bothers you. We have had some very interesting posts about sounds of appliances on this site, and the GE pre-PSC dishwasher had come up with it being described as a distinctive pleasant sound. It's not racous, as you know, but a background sound.
Pre-PSC motors do not cause control board burn outs. You have to understand John views the world in generalities and global statements meant to enforce his internal biases.
I have had several GSD2800's and my parents had one for many years. None of them ever had an issues with "burnt contacts." That is such a ludicrous statement. GE engineers know more than John does. Ask if anyone on this site has ever had a GE dishwasher with burnt contacts or a GE dishwasher with tower wash that cannot wash glasses in the corners of the top rack.
You will find the answer is "no" to both the above. If something happens once, then Johnoften globalizes into a permanent condition instead of a one time incident.
You will never have burnt contacts on your GE dishwasher, and you have one of the more reliable motors ever made for a dishwasher, based on approximately two decades of operational history. General Electric changed to PSC motors in response to energy savings ratings b the U.S. Government.
It worked. They had the lowest electrical usage of any dishwasher tested, per Consumer Reports, when they introduced it to the market. Both motors are very good. If you want to change it fine, if you like to keep your dishwasher original, as many do, you will likely never have an issue with your extremely reliable pre-PFC motor.
See my post from 2012, #Post# 648459. I had a GSD 1200 that I was testing out. After John's denigrating states about GE tower washer, due to his childish jealousy, I put a pan, as you can see, in the bottom of the left side of the machine, blocking water flow to the top rack. On both front sides of the top rack, I placed two cups with my homemade fudge sauce (made in the microwave) and you can see both came out clean.
First John lied and just stated, "Tower washes cannot clean in the corners of the upper rack." Then after being confronted, it became "They cannot clean the corners in the upper rack, with pans blocking the water from below."
John forgets he is dealing with a group of peeople here who extensive background with vintage appliances and many, many on this site own or have owned, GE tower washer. Trust me, out of them wash mixed loads with pots, pans, large serving utensils, etc. placed in lower racks. Ask if any one person experiences lack of washability in corners of the upper rack. If members couldn't place pots and pans in the bottom, without causing washability issues in the top rack, they would verbalize it, trust me.
GE engineers designed the tower wash to be a truly random load machine. The upper rash is washed totally independently of the lower. That's why they call it random loading. I am sure you wash pots and pans in yours as well and would have noticed any issues.
Enjoy your machine! Hope you get the styrofoam vent pad, it makes a surprising difference. The GSD 2800 had more insulation than their lower line counterparts, and is actually a fairly unobtrusive machine, in that you hear it, but it does not interference with conversation and has pleasant background sound. The vent pad will improve it even more.
I remember when my mom first got a dishwasher in the summer of 1968, a D&M built "Modern Maid." Our very first dishwasher. A very noticeably loud machine. My dad mentioned something about the dishwasher's noise after we first installed it. My mom said it didn't bother her at all and the she wanted for people to hear it as she was "proud" to have a dishwasher.
It's all relative, how we perceive things.
Take care.
Barry
Hello Mark,
Attached is a picture of GE's Vent Pad for your dishwasher.
The GE model number is WD1X1467. They are easy to find. Sears Parts Direct has them for about 7 dollars, however that does not include shipping. You may find one for less on Ebay or another appliance part store.
I apologize, I was hoping I had one in stock and I would send it to you but I checked and don't have any right now.
GE's non-PSC (Permanent Split Capacitor) motor, as you know are extraordinarily reliable and I wouldn't recommend replacing it, unless the background noise bothers you. We have had some very interesting posts about sounds of appliances on this site, and the GE pre-PSC dishwasher had come up with it being described as a distinctive pleasant sound. It's not racous, as you know, but a background sound.
Pre-PSC motors do not cause control board burn outs. You have to understand John views the world in generalities and global statements meant to enforce his internal biases.
I have had several GSD2800's and my parents had one for many years. None of them ever had an issues with "burnt contacts." That is such a ludicrous statement. GE engineers know more than John does. Ask if anyone on this site has ever had a GE dishwasher with burnt contacts or a GE dishwasher with tower wash that cannot wash glasses in the corners of the top rack.
You will find the answer is "no" to both the above. If something happens once, then Johnoften globalizes into a permanent condition instead of a one time incident.
You will never have burnt contacts on your GE dishwasher, and you have one of the more reliable motors ever made for a dishwasher, based on approximately two decades of operational history. General Electric changed to PSC motors in response to energy savings ratings b the U.S. Government.
It worked. They had the lowest electrical usage of any dishwasher tested, per Consumer Reports, when they introduced it to the market. Both motors are very good. If you want to change it fine, if you like to keep your dishwasher original, as many do, you will likely never have an issue with your extremely reliable pre-PFC motor.
See my post from 2012, #Post# 648459. I had a GSD 1200 that I was testing out. After John's denigrating states about GE tower washer, due to his childish jealousy, I put a pan, as you can see, in the bottom of the left side of the machine, blocking water flow to the top rack. On both front sides of the top rack, I placed two cups with my homemade fudge sauce (made in the microwave) and you can see both came out clean.
First John lied and just stated, "Tower washes cannot clean in the corners of the upper rack." Then after being confronted, it became "They cannot clean the corners in the upper rack, with pans blocking the water from below."
John forgets he is dealing with a group of peeople here who extensive background with vintage appliances and many, many on this site own or have owned, GE tower washer. Trust me, out of them wash mixed loads with pots, pans, large serving utensils, etc. placed in lower racks. Ask if any one person experiences lack of washability in corners of the upper rack. If members couldn't place pots and pans in the bottom, without causing washability issues in the top rack, they would verbalize it, trust me.
GE engineers designed the tower wash to be a truly random load machine. The upper rash is washed totally independently of the lower. That's why they call it random loading. I am sure you wash pots and pans in yours as well and would have noticed any issues.
Enjoy your machine! Hope you get the styrofoam vent pad, it makes a surprising difference. The GSD 2800 had more insulation than their lower line counterparts, and is actually a fairly unobtrusive machine, in that you hear it, but it does not interference with conversation and has pleasant background sound. The vent pad will improve it even more.
I remember when my mom first got a dishwasher in the summer of 1968, a D&M built "Modern Maid." Our very first dishwasher. A very noticeably loud machine. My dad mentioned something about the dishwasher's noise after we first installed it. My mom said it didn't bother her at all and the she wanted for people to hear it as she was "proud" to have a dishwasher.
It's all relative, how we perceive things.
Take care.
Barry
In our experience, hands down it was the 1973 GE FL built-in with the green color scheme. It did the job, though. That is if we're not counting pre-1960's machines: we had a GE 1950's FL with the Bakelite impeller that shook the house.
Interesting flip was when GE switched to an all-plastic tub, THAT was the quietest dishwasher I'd ever experienced until I heard an Asko decades later.
Our KitchenAids were relatively quiet.
Interesting flip was when GE switched to an all-plastic tub, THAT was the quietest dishwasher I'd ever experienced until I heard an Asko decades later.
Our KitchenAids were relatively quiet.
Thanks very much, Barry. I'll order one of those.
I will definitely be posting about the peanut butter testing and I will record GoPro footage too. I've found that dishwashers with wash towers and dishwashers with upper rack spray arms both have their pros and cons and neither system is infallible.
Due to John's many posts over the years regarding GE's shaded pole motor, I replaced it with a new PSC motor pretty much as soon as I bought my GE 2800 a couple of years ago. It's true that the new motor is quieter and the sound doesn't vary like the original one -- but of course there are people who appreciate and enjoy the sound of the original motor for nostalgic reasons if they grew up with a GE. It's also true that it draws less power and the pump is smaller, so there is less "carry over" water between fills. I had also read many of John's posts regarding the original motor playing a role in board failure, which was another reason I changed it. However, if the board could fail due to the current drawn by the original motor, then wouldn't that mean it could also fail due to the current drawn by the heater? Especially considering the heated dry will cycle the heater on/off every 25 seconds for 34 minutes.
Mark
I will definitely be posting about the peanut butter testing and I will record GoPro footage too. I've found that dishwashers with wash towers and dishwashers with upper rack spray arms both have their pros and cons and neither system is infallible.
Due to John's many posts over the years regarding GE's shaded pole motor, I replaced it with a new PSC motor pretty much as soon as I bought my GE 2800 a couple of years ago. It's true that the new motor is quieter and the sound doesn't vary like the original one -- but of course there are people who appreciate and enjoy the sound of the original motor for nostalgic reasons if they grew up with a GE. It's also true that it draws less power and the pump is smaller, so there is less "carry over" water between fills. I had also read many of John's posts regarding the original motor playing a role in board failure, which was another reason I changed it. However, if the board could fail due to the current drawn by the original motor, then wouldn't that mean it could also fail due to the current drawn by the heater? Especially considering the heated dry will cycle the heater on/off every 25 seconds for 34 minutes.
Mark
reactor
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GSD1200
Here is the link I mentioned above, Mark. Absolutely agree, the tower wash dishwashers and the upper rack wash arm dishwashers each bring something to the table. I have had many of each, and both are capable of equally clean dishes, with random loading.[this post was last edited: 6/27/2024-11:39]
www.automaticwasher.org
Here is the link I mentioned above, Mark. Absolutely agree, the tower wash dishwashers and the upper rack wash arm dishwashers each bring something to the table. I have had many of each, and both are capable of equally clean dishes, with random loading.[this post was last edited: 6/27/2024-11:39]
maiden wash
Here is the first wash in my "new" General Electric 1200. There is always some leftover cat food residue as my five feline companions don't always finish their meals.
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