Tom your memory is correct regarding Kmart GEs. The Frigidaire products were similar design fate too.
Low Speed as Relevant to Filter Flo Washers
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FedMart in the next-over large town where we often shopped (Sears, JCPenney, Kroger, K-Mart, Bealls, Walgreens, Woolworth) was location of my first contact with a Whirlpool Imperial Mark pair of the LAA series.
I like the concept of mixing GE and Hotpoint parts. Perhaps these were surplus parts mixed together to create a more economic machine? I wish GE sold more FFs, I like what they had going.
I would also wonder if it would be possible for GE Appliances to make a Filter Flow washer out of their current designs with a new type of filter on top of the agitator. It could be advertised as a washer for people with pets or who have septic tanks. The Filter could be an optional accessory or come with some models.
Like I said I did a harmless switching from Normal to Gentle and back before realizing accounting to consumer reports that doing that was bad for the machine and could damage it...
My grandma probably only used Normal anyway, and the temperatures were hot/warm, warm/cold and cold/cold, with three water levels...
I suppose that washer and whatever matching dryer she didn't get were as tol as a k mart would sell, I'd seen GE washers and dryers and probably other GE appliances and none very fancy, even looking like what other appliance stores would sel, as this was years later...
My new Maytag has a pull up filter in the center of its agitator but it's for removing pet hair which my daughter's gainea pig linen seldom gets... And as for whatever lint it gathers it makes me appreciate a self cleaning one...
Also the drain hose is very narrow and I don't want to buy all this'd expensive wire filters for it anymore either...
-- Dave
My grandma probably only used Normal anyway, and the temperatures were hot/warm, warm/cold and cold/cold, with three water levels...
I suppose that washer and whatever matching dryer she didn't get were as tol as a k mart would sell, I'd seen GE washers and dryers and probably other GE appliances and none very fancy, even looking like what other appliance stores would sel, as this was years later...
My new Maytag has a pull up filter in the center of its agitator but it's for removing pet hair which my daughter's gainea pig linen seldom gets... And as for whatever lint it gathers it makes me appreciate a self cleaning one...
Also the drain hose is very narrow and I don't want to buy all this'd expensive wire filters for it anymore either...
-- Dave
Reply number 33
Hi Bob, one of the best things you can do for a septic tank is let hair and lint get into it. These items are organic and increase the efficiency and function of a septic tank.
Lint and pet hair will not clog drain lines either. We’ve been working for a local veterinary hospital for over 40 years. They do a ton of laundry that’s covered with pet hair. They’ve never had a clogged drain both washing machines drain directly into standpipes.
John
Hi Bob, one of the best things you can do for a septic tank is let hair and lint get into it. These items are organic and increase the efficiency and function of a septic tank.
Lint and pet hair will not clog drain lines either. We’ve been working for a local veterinary hospital for over 40 years. They do a ton of laundry that’s covered with pet hair. They’ve never had a clogged drain both washing machines drain directly into standpipes.
John
Hi Bob, one of the best things you can do for a septic tank is let hair and lint get into it.
Where the hell do you come up with this nonsense? Talk to anybody who services septic tanks and they tell you that lint and hair are almost impossible for microbes to break down. Lint is a big cause of septic failure. So is using a garbage disposer, especially with foods that don't break down easily or at all. A simple google search reveals these warnings....everywhere.
For whatever reason, your logic often goes against what experts have warned for many decades. It's not worth risking thousands, sometimes tens of thousands of dollars, to correct a septic failure.
Where the hell do you come up with this nonsense? Talk to anybody who services septic tanks and they tell you that lint and hair are almost impossible for microbes to break down. Lint is a big cause of septic failure. So is using a garbage disposer, especially with foods that don't break down easily or at all. A simple google search reveals these warnings....everywhere.
For whatever reason, your logic often goes against what experts have warned for many decades. It's not worth risking thousands, sometimes tens of thousands of dollars, to correct a septic failure.
As someone who has a septic system, DO NOT let lint and hair go down the drain. If those leach lines clog, it’s game over and will cost upwards of $15,000+ to have them dug up and replaced. Of course, there will be some lint and hair that will make its way down the drain but excessive amounts is a big no-no. Even if you have your septic system pumped out every 2 to 3 years as a preventative measure, I would still be weary of putting hair and lint down the drain along with excessive amounts of toilet paper.
My septic system of 19 years has not yet needed a pump-out. I try to avoid hair down the drains as best I can but it's difficult on the tub drains with pop-up stoppers and no screens. The shower in the master bath is separate from the tub, with a screen on its drain although somewhat large perforations. I took the screen off sometime in the last couple years and was shocked hot much air was accumulated beneath it, although the drain wasn't impaired. I didn't do anything for years to avoid it in the sink for facial shaving, but I do now with beard trimming. I do that only at one specific sink, with the drain stopper closed and never rinse the sink, I vacuum it.
Call me paranoid, but I put those tight mesh screens on every single drain I have. Kitchen sink/Kitchenette sinks/bathroom sinks, tub (it was a pop-up stopper, I removed it). It doesn't filter everything 100% but probably a good 90%. If I had room to install a utility laundry sink, I would install one and run the drain hose through a tight meshed screen as well. The vintage Maytags filter pretty well and most of my laundry is ancient and quit shedding years/decades ago so I'm not overly concerned. However, if anybody has ideas on how I can run the washer drain hose through an easily accessible filter via a standpipe, please let me know.
Another thing that will probably put a little less lint down the drain is I’ve been quite conservative with wash times as of late, been washing lightly soiled items for 3 to 5 minutes and noticed there’s been a lot less lint, even with things like towels. Though, I still wash things like whites or anything heavily soiled for a good 8 to 10 minutes. Definitely will save time along with reducing wear and tear on the machine.
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What about other machines that feature an agitator-mounted lint filter?
How are they at gentle cycles/slow speeds?
Today's POD, that Montgomery Ward Signature built by Norge has one, so isn't its designing of lint filtering similar?
-- Dave
How are they at gentle cycles/slow speeds?
Today's POD, that Montgomery Ward Signature built by Norge has one, so isn't its designing of lint filtering similar?
-- Dave
The Wards/Norge machine has a pumping function integral to the agitator that pulls water up through the barrel and sprays it into the filter pan on the counterclockwise stroke. The (drain) pump isn't involved.
Slower agitation reduces the force of the spray but perhaps not the volume?
Lint and hair, etc. in septic tanks
The filter and reply number 41 is aim primarily at trapping microfiber plastic particles and keeping them out of the environment. Of course it would also trap lint.
It’s very clear that microfiber particles could not possibly hurt a septic tank. They are so tiny that they will just flow through with the water. I’m not making any judgments to how good or bad they are for the environment. I think they’re generally a bad thing, as we are eating things that contain them at this point
I spent an hour or so researching septic tank design and function and it’s very clear to me that you couldn’t possibly put enough hair in a septic tank or lint from laundry to ever hurt a septic tank Both of these items are heavier than water and they will sink to the bottom and they will either decompose or be pumped out someday if the tank is cleaned, but never could build up in the lifetime of a human being enough hair to be a problem.
It’s amusing Sean and Dan that you’re worried about your septic tanks yet you’re using a washing machine that puts between 40 and 70 gallons of water a load into the septic system , the two things that are clearly bad for a septic system are grease and too much water.
The thing that is good for a septic system to function properly as human waste and lots of food waste from garbage, disposals, again hair, and lint are insignificant in the whole process.
Also hair lint, etc. will not clog drain pipes. Once you get past the sink strainer these items will flush straight on out into the septic tank or into the sewage system.
It’s clear from watching a lot of videos last night that many people have no idea what they’re talking about even people who work with septic tanks, etc., this is a common problem today that people don’t have any common sense and they don’t know anything about science and how things actually work but this is true and many areas of our lives now ,
John
The filter and reply number 41 is aim primarily at trapping microfiber plastic particles and keeping them out of the environment. Of course it would also trap lint.
It’s very clear that microfiber particles could not possibly hurt a septic tank. They are so tiny that they will just flow through with the water. I’m not making any judgments to how good or bad they are for the environment. I think they’re generally a bad thing, as we are eating things that contain them at this point
I spent an hour or so researching septic tank design and function and it’s very clear to me that you couldn’t possibly put enough hair in a septic tank or lint from laundry to ever hurt a septic tank Both of these items are heavier than water and they will sink to the bottom and they will either decompose or be pumped out someday if the tank is cleaned, but never could build up in the lifetime of a human being enough hair to be a problem.
It’s amusing Sean and Dan that you’re worried about your septic tanks yet you’re using a washing machine that puts between 40 and 70 gallons of water a load into the septic system , the two things that are clearly bad for a septic system are grease and too much water.
The thing that is good for a septic system to function properly as human waste and lots of food waste from garbage, disposals, again hair, and lint are insignificant in the whole process.
Also hair lint, etc. will not clog drain pipes. Once you get past the sink strainer these items will flush straight on out into the septic tank or into the sewage system.
It’s clear from watching a lot of videos last night that many people have no idea what they’re talking about even people who work with septic tanks, etc., this is a common problem today that people don’t have any common sense and they don’t know anything about science and how things actually work but this is true and many areas of our lives now ,
John
Reply #44
John, I’ve been using nothing but Maytags for the past 7 years, NEVER HAD A SINGLE ISSUE WITH MY SEPTIC SYSTEM, SAME WITH DAN. Simply am NOT falling for your front load washer sales pitch.
How about you have common sense by NOT giving out bad and dubious advice.
John, I’ve been using nothing but Maytags for the past 7 years, NEVER HAD A SINGLE ISSUE WITH MY SEPTIC SYSTEM, SAME WITH DAN. Simply am NOT falling for your front load washer sales pitch.
How about you have common sense by NOT giving out bad and dubious advice.
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