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Maybe it's been discussed already, as I'm always late to catch on to a trend, particularly TV shows, but has anyone seen "Mad Men" on AMC? It takes place in a Manhattan ad agency in the early 60's, and is quite fun: A drama, but with comedic elements.

There was a scene in the first season where one of the executive's wives has an erotic daydream while trying to wrestle an out-of-balance Maytag washer back into place.

 
That is

a really neat show. I love the sets and I had forgotten how common it used to be to smoke in the office and even in hospitals in those days. And that cocktail thing, even having a drink in the office, I remember all that but it feels odd to see it again.
 
Yeah, there was a thread about a year ago re: the washer scene and the nice job they're doing of capturing life in 1961. I need to get my Dish or whatever soon so I can start watching the new season.
 
Have been following "Mad Men", and since was not yet born cannot comment on the early 1960's per se.

Being as all that may, it is all very well romancing the post war years, however one must remember the l950's and much of the early 1960's weren't heaven for everyone.

If one was a white, middle class or above male, you probably were sitting fine. More so if one was from the WASP ruling class, everyone else had to toe the line. Women were shoved back into the home, what jobs were left open to them were pink collar ghettos, sexual harrasment was rampant, (can vaguely remember want ads that were segregated by gender and female one always started "pretty, young ..... ".

Married women were still considered the unique property of their husbands. Things such as opening a credit card or bank account under her own name was difficult if the woman was married. Unmarried women often were asked to have their fathers (not mothers) co-sign.

There were many women like the wife of one of the top "Mad Men" who were married living in the suburbs, trapped in marriages because "that was the way they always heard it was to be", knowing their husbands were having affairs all over the place. While she could get a divource, for most women of her class her entire life was defined as being "wife and mother". Divorce would send her standard of living way down, and society was often harsh on such women. After all there were plenty of "Mrs. Mooreheads" (Mary Haines mother), who thought a wife was supposed to stay by her husband, no matter what he got up to, after all boys will be boys. If he knocked her about now and then, well what did she do to make him angry?

Blacks, gays and other minorities were worse off than women, who at least could count on the protection of their husbands or fathers (that is if they were "nice" girls, good wives and mothers, "bad" girls got what was coming to them and it was just too darn bad). I know from family stories that coloured persons couldn't go to resorts in places like Miami Beach or other parts of Florida. Employment was restricted to the menial tasks, though coloured women could become nurses,not all hospitals would hire them.

Gays like the "artsy" young man in "Mad Men" had their own "hell" to live through,and having a job in advertising wouldn't have protected that young man from getting beat up walking around late at night, or getting fired from his job because a client objected to "that f*g" working on his account.

All and all "Mad Men" is a great retro vision into the past, but I for one am very glad to live in 2008 and not 1961.

L.
 
Laundress, I agree with everything you say. I may have a house decorated in "Eve of the Assassination", but I wouldn't want to actually live in that era.

But that is one of the great things about "Madmen": I think they do a great job of showing the frustrations and injustices experienced by the girls in the secretarial pool, black people, gays, etc. And yet they don't make the white guys out to be total jerks - you see their inner demons, and their frustrations with society as well.

And while I do sort of wish that people would dress nicer these days, I am also a blatant hypocrite: I have no desire to return to my days of suit and tie (which defined the first 15 years of my working life). I just want everyone else to look like that ;-)
 
Much as I enjoy "Mad Men" (and I certainly make sure my DVR is set to record the show every week), it is becoming clear that this drama series will remain a critical darling but only a cult hit. (The second season premiere drew two million viewers, its highest number ever; that figure has dropped back to just over a million viewers a week.)
I believe the reason stems from the fact "Mad Men" is a subtle piece of work--one which you have to pay attention to if you want to understand the characters and their motivations. It's not a hard and fast "franchise drama" which can be easily grasped.
And while Launderess' comments on the early 1960's is spot-on, it may not resonate with viewers who grew up on medical, crime or legal drama. There have been few television series that used advertising as a backdrop ("Bewitched" is probably the notable example), but there have been several films about the ad world ("The Hucksters," to name one).
For what it's worth, I'll enjoy this series as long as it remains on the air--and if AMC is willing to continue producing it, ratings be damned, great! But don't expect its audience base to reach the level of more popular cable dramas such as "The Closer" or "Army Wives." "Mad Men" is not a drama that will get a Emmy ratings boost the way "Hill Street Blues" or "Cagney & Lacey" once did. Any statues "Mad Men" wins in September will confirm the taste of its viewers, but won't vindicate the concept.
 
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