you can clearly see at the :40 second mark, its a one piece agitator...
well, most of us can.....
well, most of us can.....
Maytag 4.7 Top load agitator washer - anyone know about it?
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murando531
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Uh oh. Here we go... *braces for impact*
user 3941
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LOL @andrew
Yes it is definitely a 1 piece design. The bottom part is the same as the machine without an agitator in design..except that I think the other model might have some holes in the bottom. It's interesting to watch this machine as it fills, if you add the Deep Fill option...it will "bloom" just like the impeller machines...as water is added the bloom gets faster then at a certain point it slows down and you get a more side to side movement similar to the GE Hydrowave. So there's a breaking point at which the bloom action becomes less effective...but that's why this machine will wash for a long time on HE mode, before filling...most of the cleaning happens at that stage. It will also continue to agitate as it fills. So by the time the machine is full of water, it will generally wash for another 10 minutes or so, depending on soil level. I suppose if they could design it that way, it would be neat to have the agitator become a dual action unit once it fills completely with water. Maybe with a timed locking mechanism? Not sure if that's possible, but would give more traditional rollover when completely full. Granted it does reverse direction during the cycle, so items get churned up quite a bit.
Yes it is definitely a 1 piece design. The bottom part is the same as the machine without an agitator in design..except that I think the other model might have some holes in the bottom. It's interesting to watch this machine as it fills, if you add the Deep Fill option...it will "bloom" just like the impeller machines...as water is added the bloom gets faster then at a certain point it slows down and you get a more side to side movement similar to the GE Hydrowave. So there's a breaking point at which the bloom action becomes less effective...but that's why this machine will wash for a long time on HE mode, before filling...most of the cleaning happens at that stage. It will also continue to agitate as it fills. So by the time the machine is full of water, it will generally wash for another 10 minutes or so, depending on soil level. I suppose if they could design it that way, it would be neat to have the agitator become a dual action unit once it fills completely with water. Maybe with a timed locking mechanism? Not sure if that's possible, but would give more traditional rollover when completely full. Granted it does reverse direction during the cycle, so items get churned up quite a bit.
mrb627
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Auger Action?
Is the spiral of the auger beveled towards the base of the agitator?
It is difficult to discern in the pictures and I haven't found one of these on the sales floor of my local HD.
Malcolm
Is the spiral of the auger beveled towards the base of the agitator?
It is difficult to discern in the pictures and I haven't found one of these on the sales floor of my local HD.
Malcolm
I'm leaning towards the idea that the corkscrew on the center post (which is not an auger anyway), is a cosmetic device to give consumers something that they are familiar with. Few people will question what it does and assume that it works just as it was intended in dual action machines. A plain old center post looks much less impressive, but will do exactly the same job. [this post was last edited: 2/17/2017-20:02]
Oh I agree, that center post, spiral or not, was just placed there to aid in loading of clothing, versus issues of people not paying attention to loading towards the outside of the basket and keeping the center dome 'open'...
this basically forces them to......consider it their 'idiot' light, or lack there of!...as in 'nobody's home!
many don't have a glass lid, and for the most part, people just load and go, with out a thought as to what is happening inside....
the second benefit of this style machine, they incorporated a softener dispenser in the center....versus the $2.00 Downy Ball that was included with your $700.00 machine...
this basically forces them to......consider it their 'idiot' light, or lack there of!...as in 'nobody's home!
many don't have a glass lid, and for the most part, people just load and go, with out a thought as to what is happening inside....
the second benefit of this style machine, they incorporated a softener dispenser in the center....versus the $2.00 Downy Ball that was included with your $700.00 machine...
Having owned a Whirlpool Cabrio with the impeller about 7 yrs ago and now a Maytag MWVC415EW like in the video Martin posted, I really like the Maytag better than the Cabrio.
With the Cabrio I was very careful to load around the tub, leaving the center open as much as possible. But I always had problems with towels and levi's going out of balance. The machine would attempt to balance by re filling for the rinse, and if I didn't babysit it it would fill over and over, never balancing itself. I had loaded everything in a balanced way, but for some reason these loads were always a problem.
Now the Maytag, with the agipeller has never gone out of balance, except once when I washed the Rubbermaid tub mat with the cotton shower curtain, and cotton woven bathmat. I knew this probably go out of balance because of the rubber mat so I sayed close for the spin cycles. I just pressed pause, opened the lid, redistributed the load and all was well. We have a set of bath towel from Pottery Barn that were a gift. The are so heavy, they are like rugs. In my LG FL, even using low spin speed it took 2 hrs. to wash these because each of the 3 spins took at least 15 mins just to decide that it would spin.
The Maytag washs these towels, and rinses them beautifully on the Deep Water Cycle, heavy soil, hot water in 55 mins. and never goes out of balance. So my experince is that the agipeller does help some loads to keep themselves around the tub, instead of moving to the center. And I agree with Martin that it probably does encourage people to load properly.
Sorry to ramble on, but I really do like this machine. Its a real set and forget kind of machine, which is what an automatic washer should be. I don't feel like I need to keep an eye on what its doing cause it just does what it supposed to do and does it well.
Eddie
With the Cabrio I was very careful to load around the tub, leaving the center open as much as possible. But I always had problems with towels and levi's going out of balance. The machine would attempt to balance by re filling for the rinse, and if I didn't babysit it it would fill over and over, never balancing itself. I had loaded everything in a balanced way, but for some reason these loads were always a problem.
Now the Maytag, with the agipeller has never gone out of balance, except once when I washed the Rubbermaid tub mat with the cotton shower curtain, and cotton woven bathmat. I knew this probably go out of balance because of the rubber mat so I sayed close for the spin cycles. I just pressed pause, opened the lid, redistributed the load and all was well. We have a set of bath towel from Pottery Barn that were a gift. The are so heavy, they are like rugs. In my LG FL, even using low spin speed it took 2 hrs. to wash these because each of the 3 spins took at least 15 mins just to decide that it would spin.
The Maytag washs these towels, and rinses them beautifully on the Deep Water Cycle, heavy soil, hot water in 55 mins. and never goes out of balance. So my experince is that the agipeller does help some loads to keep themselves around the tub, instead of moving to the center. And I agree with Martin that it probably does encourage people to load properly.
Sorry to ramble on, but I really do like this machine. Its a real set and forget kind of machine, which is what an automatic washer should be. I don't feel like I need to keep an eye on what its doing cause it just does what it supposed to do and does it well.
Eddie
I really like that the 415 will start to fill immediately. My 425 dicks around 'senseing" around.
A toothpaste stain to demostrate how well a washer handles difficult stains ?
Seriously ? I mean toothpaste is a detergent after all, isn`t it ?
Anybody else noticed that nasty underarm stain at 14:29 ? But hey, at least the dirt he put on the white garment is gone... Guess I`m not sold yet.
Seriously ? I mean toothpaste is a detergent after all, isn`t it ?
Anybody else noticed that nasty underarm stain at 14:29 ? But hey, at least the dirt he put on the white garment is gone... Guess I`m not sold yet.
mrb627
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Just Got Home...
From the bestbuy, where I needed to replace a failing bluray player.
While there, I strolled over to the appliances section.
Took a good look at this machine. I really like the feel on the cycle knob. Very heavy substantial point of contact. The model with the wash plate was powered up. Of course I set a spin only cycle to test it for sound. Much quieter spin than I expected. Whirlpool may have finally gotten this one right, IMO.
Malcolm
From the bestbuy, where I needed to replace a failing bluray player.
While there, I strolled over to the appliances section.
Took a good look at this machine. I really like the feel on the cycle knob. Very heavy substantial point of contact. The model with the wash plate was powered up. Of course I set a spin only cycle to test it for sound. Much quieter spin than I expected. Whirlpool may have finally gotten this one right, IMO.
Malcolm
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