Maytag Bravo Top-Load
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cfz2882
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bravos
i recently saw a commercial for these on TV-was suprized that the washplate was
only partly submersed,sloshing the washload around as the washplate rotated
back and forth like a conventional agitator.From what i understand,rollover in
these washers is opposite regular agitator washers-due to the design of the tub
and washplate protrusions,the load flows from the outside of the washplate to the
center-boiling up and over back to the outside again.
Never seen one operate in person,but i think they are cool looking washers.
i recently saw a commercial for these on TV-was suprized that the washplate was
only partly submersed,sloshing the washload around as the washplate rotated
back and forth like a conventional agitator.From what i understand,rollover in
these washers is opposite regular agitator washers-due to the design of the tub
and washplate protrusions,the load flows from the outside of the washplate to the
center-boiling up and over back to the outside again.
Never seen one operate in person,but i think they are cool looking washers.
The Maytag Bravos has gotten top reviews in past Consumer Reports.
For what it's worth.
I am however intrigued by the LG version... one of which has an internal water heater - which could be important if you view hot water washing as essential for best results.
As far as I can tell, none of the Whirlpool/Maytag washplate top loaders have internal water heaters.
The problem with LG is their spotty service history in the USA. As one local independent appliance dealer said to me, "I wouldn't wish LG on anybody"...
For what it's worth.
I am however intrigued by the LG version... one of which has an internal water heater - which could be important if you view hot water washing as essential for best results.
As far as I can tell, none of the Whirlpool/Maytag washplate top loaders have internal water heaters.
The problem with LG is their spotty service history in the USA. As one local independent appliance dealer said to me, "I wouldn't wish LG on anybody"...
arbilab
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Call me prejudiced, but after the decline of Maytag and sale to Whirlpool, themselves in decline, I'd be VERY skeptical of buying a Whirltag/Maypool. Best I can determine, there is no longer a US appliance vendor with any integrity. Even GE has sold product with their name on it made by Electro-Frigi-White.
An antique from a reputable manufacturer might be your best value at this unfortunate time in the evolution of appliances.
An antique from a reputable manufacturer might be your best value at this unfortunate time in the evolution of appliances.
<blockquote>As far as I can tell, none of the Whirlpool/Maytag washplate top loaders have internal water heaters.</blockquote>Assuming the website descriptions are accurate, there are now again two Whirlpool Cabrio models and at least one, possibly two, Maytag Bravos models with water heating.
If I was buying a new HE toploader with water heating, I'd chose one of the Cabrio or Bravos machines. Without water heating, probably an F&P AquaSmart.
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Maytag Bravos and Whirlpool Cabrio
I have a Maytag Bravos 850 with a heater the new Maytag Bravos 950 and the Whirlpool model 8800 have heaters. I have the Bravos 850 with a heater witch I like very much, it does a fine job of cleaning but it does wrinkle the clothes not a problem if you machine dry. My only remark would be follow the instructions and you should be very satisfied.
I have a Maytag Bravos 850 with a heater the new Maytag Bravos 950 and the Whirlpool model 8800 have heaters. I have the Bravos 850 with a heater witch I like very much, it does a fine job of cleaning but it does wrinkle the clothes not a problem if you machine dry. My only remark would be follow the instructions and you should be very satisfied.
My question is why buy a top loader that tries to do what a front loader does better and easier which is wash clothes in a small amount of water. In a front loader you have gravity working for you with tumbling. With these other types, you have something trying to approximate tumbling action & trying to move laundry through small amounts of water. Clothing wear has been reported and, in some large loads, the center of the load was not saturated until some minutes into the wash portion of the cycle. That only leaves one to wonder if the rinse water ever makes it through the load. I don't know why manufacturers are feeding the prejudice against front loaders by offering these machines which, in most cases, are a poor compromise between a top loading standard agitator machine and a front loader unless it is because they are cheaper to make.
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maytag bravos
I agree that a front load machine for the most part is a better washer, but to each his own, I have a front loader and if I only had one washer it would be a front loader. If money was tight I would get a Whirlpool DD parts plentiful and a inexpensive good all around machine but there is something reminiscent of the sounds of the Bravos and Cabrio washers while they are agitating, a slower more methodical sounds of the older machines, and if properly used the results are not bad.
Rick
I agree that a front load machine for the most part is a better washer, but to each his own, I have a front loader and if I only had one washer it would be a front loader. If money was tight I would get a Whirlpool DD parts plentiful and a inexpensive good all around machine but there is something reminiscent of the sounds of the Bravos and Cabrio washers while they are agitating, a slower more methodical sounds of the older machines, and if properly used the results are not bad.
Rick
I think the option of TL versus FL is just that, an option, or preference.....
in my own case, I got a FL, with raised pedestals, but my Mother had a hard time getting clothes out, she's 83, she wanted to go back to a regular TLer again, I still wanted a HE machine, so the conventional TL Whirlpool Calypso was the best option, foolproof TL design and operation, with low water usage, and even better the matching dryer with the drop down hamper door....
another question----can a Bravos or similar HE TLer's water level be raised, like we do in some FLer's.....adjustable pressure switch?.......
I also think a version like the Bravos would be better with the waterfall suds, like in the Calypso, saturating the load, may be a better option for the low water usage...........even Frigidaire FL now has the Sprinkler to make sure the load is saturated from the very low water usage....
in my own case, I got a FL, with raised pedestals, but my Mother had a hard time getting clothes out, she's 83, she wanted to go back to a regular TLer again, I still wanted a HE machine, so the conventional TL Whirlpool Calypso was the best option, foolproof TL design and operation, with low water usage, and even better the matching dryer with the drop down hamper door....
another question----can a Bravos or similar HE TLer's water level be raised, like we do in some FLer's.....adjustable pressure switch?.......
I also think a version like the Bravos would be better with the waterfall suds, like in the Calypso, saturating the load, may be a better option for the low water usage...........even Frigidaire FL now has the Sprinkler to make sure the load is saturated from the very low water usage....
I had a Bravos for 1 week. It looks pretty, glass door is neat. But, when you watch a wash cycle the clothes don't go anywhere. They move 2-4" from their original position. Here was the kicker, my wife put a folded t-shirt in the washer and ran a regular cycle. When it was done the shirt was still folded. And yes it does wrinkle your clothes. Nelson
Just to clarify ... first choice for *buying* a new machine would be a frontloader with water heating ... but IF for some reason an HE toploader was the only option, then I'd choose as stated above.
The perfect HE toploader IMO would be a Calypso with water heating.
iheartmaytag
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My Nephew and his wife have the Kenmore version of the TL HE may not be the same as the Bravo though. Niece calls it the towel shredder, as it is very rought on clothes. My sis that is their live-in babysitter says if you put something large in the machine, such as a comforter; the center doesn't even get wet.
Post# 557145, Reply# 2 11/16/2011 at 23:44 by sudsmaster
I believe I may know why the possible reason that none of the Whirlpool-manufactured HE washplate top-loaders have internal water heaters. If you look into the tubs, the washplate and bottom of the tub are plastic. The heat from an internal source would melt the cheap plastic!
I believe I may know why the possible reason that none of the Whirlpool-manufactured HE washplate top-loaders have internal water heaters. If you look into the tubs, the washplate and bottom of the tub are plastic. The heat from an internal source would melt the cheap plastic!
whitetub
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Get a front loader. Stay away from washplate washers. Unless you want wrinkled clothing. That's my advice.
JSneaker, there are many plastic-tub machines with water heating. Neptune frontloader models MAH6500 and MAH7500 and the TOL FAV9800 Neptune TL have plastic outer tubs and water heaters. Duet and Kenmore HEt models, KitchenAid Ensemble & Proline, Maytag Epic. Likely LG HE toploaders with water heating have plastic outer tubs.
Apparently my posts are often not read. As I said above, there are two Cabrio HE models on Whirlpool's site described to have water heaters, and water heaters are shown in the parts diagrams -- WTW7990XG and WTW8800YW/C. Also confirming via the parts diagram, Maytag Bravos MVWB950YW/G. Some current frontloaders also.
I suppose I'm biased. Of all the HE washers available here in the US, I prefer front loaders. From what I've seen (machines in operation on YouTube) I don't like the majority of the HE-top load, wash plate type machines.
I do agree that they:
1. use too little water for what they are trying to do (perhaps just a few gallons more would help?)
2. achieve poor "roll over" at best
3. are very slow to get everything "wet" becasuse of #1 & #2.
4. I can only assume are poor at rinsing becasuse of #1, #2 & #3
5. they look to me, to be very rough on the fabrics being washed due to the lack of water and the wash action.
For those reasons I would never buy a top load HE washer. Though it's not to say if someone GAVE me one I wouldn't try it out. But most likely I'd just "flip it" after a short time.
I do have a WP Calypso and as much as so many people "poo poo" the machine, I really like it and think it does a good job.
Just my 3 1/2 cents worth.
Kevin
Tom, older more mature consumers, remember the F/L machines of the 1950's, i would think many of them remember dissatisfaction mainly because of the detergents available then. They also want to "see" the water. I have heard older family members remembrances of said machines and most are not favorable. The following the westy F/L enjoyed was loyal, kind of like todays Mac/Windows users. Lovem or hatem. alr
runematic
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To the OP, there are two different lines of Bravos washers on the market. The Bravos models that start with mvw<span style="font-size: medium;">X</span> are based off the world washer and current agitator model mvwc200xw. Models that start with mvw<span style="font-size: large;">B </span>are more closely aligned with the F&P design.
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