The guy doesn't know what he is talking about!
Dependable Care?
4 water levels?
Permanent Press?
I think not!
Dependable Care?
4 water levels?
Permanent Press?
I think not!
Maytag Centennial Washer & Dryer
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You're right. He said 4 water levels, I see 5:Extra Small, Small, Medium, Large, and King Size Plus. Also, Permanent Press is there, It is called "Casuals". And the Whirlpool DD washer is indeed a Dependable Care. They just couldn't use the name because Maytag had it.
Here comes my trademark list of machine features!
*Commercial-Grade parts: This machine is a Wirlpool DD Top-Loader that should last the regulation 20 years instead of 4.
*DependableClean wash system: What could be more dependable than the Double-Action/Triple-Action of a Whirlpool DD washer?
*SuperSize Capacity Plus: It doesn't say exactly how many cubic feet of capacity but I guess it is around 3.8 cubic feet.
*Heay-Duty Metallic Control Knob: A nice, shiny break from the plastic knob. And it looks more modern.
*1/2 HP Drain Pump: I don't know how powerful that is or how fast it would drain out the water. If somebody does know please post on this thread.
*QuietSeries300 Sound Package: Ensures for quiet operation.
*LoadFlex agitator with 100 degree arc rotation: This sounds like the Total Care Flex Agitator in the Kenmore Elite Oasis.
*Automatic Temparature Control: Regulates the incomig water temp to target it to a certain temparature to ensure proper cleaning.
*Automatic Bleach and Fabric Softener Dispensers: Self-Explanatory.
*End Of Cycle Signal: Self Explanatory. I hope it is a bell or beeper instead of a harsh buzzer.
*SmoothBalance Suspension System: With today's demand for a smooth, non-vibratey spin cycle for 1st and 2nd floor laundry, this ensures for a quiet, smooth spin.
*PureClean Rinse System: I don't know if this means it does spray-rinsing or just different rinsing. If someone does know please post here.
* Extra Rinse Option: Sel-Explanatory.
*Porcelain-On-Steel Spill Catcher top: Ensures you top's finish does not become damaged by spilling something on it.
*Commercial-Grade parts: This machine is a Wirlpool DD Top-Loader that should last the regulation 20 years instead of 4.
*DependableClean wash system: What could be more dependable than the Double-Action/Triple-Action of a Whirlpool DD washer?
*SuperSize Capacity Plus: It doesn't say exactly how many cubic feet of capacity but I guess it is around 3.8 cubic feet.
*Heay-Duty Metallic Control Knob: A nice, shiny break from the plastic knob. And it looks more modern.
*1/2 HP Drain Pump: I don't know how powerful that is or how fast it would drain out the water. If somebody does know please post on this thread.
*QuietSeries300 Sound Package: Ensures for quiet operation.
*LoadFlex agitator with 100 degree arc rotation: This sounds like the Total Care Flex Agitator in the Kenmore Elite Oasis.
*Automatic Temparature Control: Regulates the incomig water temp to target it to a certain temparature to ensure proper cleaning.
*Automatic Bleach and Fabric Softener Dispensers: Self-Explanatory.
*End Of Cycle Signal: Self Explanatory. I hope it is a bell or beeper instead of a harsh buzzer.
*SmoothBalance Suspension System: With today's demand for a smooth, non-vibratey spin cycle for 1st and 2nd floor laundry, this ensures for a quiet, smooth spin.
*PureClean Rinse System: I don't know if this means it does spray-rinsing or just different rinsing. If someone does know please post here.
* Extra Rinse Option: Sel-Explanatory.
*Porcelain-On-Steel Spill Catcher top: Ensures you top's finish does not become damaged by spilling something on it.
mrb627
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Porcelain-On-Steel Spill Catcher top
This is still a nice feature. Wish the whole cabinet was porcelain on steel.
This is still a nice feature. Wish the whole cabinet was porcelain on steel.
I know it'll never be a true to heritage Maytag.
But this looks like a DAMN GOOD machine.
I'd sure as hell get one. And they look flippin' awesome.
100 degree arc? isn't that a little wider than the standard shredding action of the DD?
I still HATE the neutral drain.
But this looks like a DAMN GOOD machine.
I'd sure as hell get one. And they look flippin' awesome.
100 degree arc? isn't that a little wider than the standard shredding action of the DD?
I still HATE the neutral drain.
oxydolfan1
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I love the appearance of these machines and they definitely have a much more upscale feel and appearance compared to Whirlpool-branded machines for only a bit more cash, but so does the new GE Hydrowave machine I saw.
Funguy, many years ago, Maytag was sort of the "Cadillac" of washing machines...if you had the money for one, you had more or less "made it" and it was a status symbol that had respectability and reliability written all over it. Whirlpool AFAICR had a very good rep as well, but if you spent the extra money on a Maytag, you planned to keep it for a very long time, at a time where you didn't replace such objects so often.
The Maytag washers of old were not particularly flashy, with bells and whistles, and had a very understated design. When I bought my last DD Whirlpool, almost twenty years ago, it was because I LIKED the vigorous wash action, the quick cycles, and the stain-removal aspect, but my BOL model was far cheaper than a comparable model by Maytag.
There are actually a few Maytag models with the retro design, but they are at different price points, have a few varying features, and at least one of them had the speckled porcelain.
My one criticism of the machines I saw is that some of the models had a seam running down the outside of the basket. I wash a lot of sweaters and sweatshirts and I could easily see that seam worsening and getting caught on things over time, although I could be wrong.
On the other hand, whenever I get myself disgusted over the state of mergers and outsourcing, I remind myself that Maytag could well have been taken over by Haier or some similar outfit, and I don't think they'd have taken the time to build a model like this one....
Although, I could be wrong. TTI, IMHO, did a wonderful job with the new "Constellation" canister vac, and I'm thrilled to pieces with my new TTI-made Hoover "Mach 5", so who knows?
Time will tell....
Funguy, many years ago, Maytag was sort of the "Cadillac" of washing machines...if you had the money for one, you had more or less "made it" and it was a status symbol that had respectability and reliability written all over it. Whirlpool AFAICR had a very good rep as well, but if you spent the extra money on a Maytag, you planned to keep it for a very long time, at a time where you didn't replace such objects so often.
The Maytag washers of old were not particularly flashy, with bells and whistles, and had a very understated design. When I bought my last DD Whirlpool, almost twenty years ago, it was because I LIKED the vigorous wash action, the quick cycles, and the stain-removal aspect, but my BOL model was far cheaper than a comparable model by Maytag.
There are actually a few Maytag models with the retro design, but they are at different price points, have a few varying features, and at least one of them had the speckled porcelain.
My one criticism of the machines I saw is that some of the models had a seam running down the outside of the basket. I wash a lot of sweaters and sweatshirts and I could easily see that seam worsening and getting caught on things over time, although I could be wrong.
On the other hand, whenever I get myself disgusted over the state of mergers and outsourcing, I remind myself that Maytag could well have been taken over by Haier or some similar outfit, and I don't think they'd have taken the time to build a model like this one....
Although, I could be wrong. TTI, IMHO, did a wonderful job with the new "Constellation" canister vac, and I'm thrilled to pieces with my new TTI-made Hoover "Mach 5", so who knows?
Time will tell....
You're right. Maytag and Whirlpool just merged. We can give critisism on the quality of the "New" Maytags yet until some time pases. I think they still have the old-time realiability because of the realiability of the DD Whirlpool design but that is only my opinion.
mrcleanjeans
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Just curious.When KitchenAid washers came out,although basically Whirlpools with a few tweaks they were accepted I'd say by "us folks" yet this Maytag seems crucified by some.I did see some detailed sales "stuff" on the Maypools not long ago and they outright said that they have more commercial grade transmissions than the Whirlpools as well as some other heavier components.BTW,one could put a turqouise KitchenAid agitator with those wider fins in here and set the washer for 120 SPM,thus preventing shredding.
this whole shredding issue
I don't get it.
I know the wash action is quite vigorous, but the few and far between DD machines I've used at friends/relatives houses don't "shred" for the whole duration of the cycle.
As far as I know, the DD steps down speed somewhere during agitation.
Is this not true?
What bothers me the most about this Centennial washer is the HORRIBLE seams in their SS tub. They are no where near the quality of the stainless seams in Maytag's old washers (neptune).
But....if there's a way to sand down/hammer down those sharp seam edges, maybe I could live with it.
It does look like a fantastic machine.
I think Whirlpool did Maytag a debt of gratitude in such short notice with a beautiful redesign.
WP JUST bought them. They had to do something quick.
Who's to say WP down the line won't incorporate the Orbital system into all their machines later on. They own that now.
Just be glad Haier didn't buy them, and quit b!7@#ing.
I don't get it.
I know the wash action is quite vigorous, but the few and far between DD machines I've used at friends/relatives houses don't "shred" for the whole duration of the cycle.
As far as I know, the DD steps down speed somewhere during agitation.
Is this not true?
What bothers me the most about this Centennial washer is the HORRIBLE seams in their SS tub. They are no where near the quality of the stainless seams in Maytag's old washers (neptune).
But....if there's a way to sand down/hammer down those sharp seam edges, maybe I could live with it.
It does look like a fantastic machine.
I think Whirlpool did Maytag a debt of gratitude in such short notice with a beautiful redesign.
WP JUST bought them. They had to do something quick.
Who's to say WP down the line won't incorporate the Orbital system into all their machines later on. They own that now.
Just be glad Haier didn't buy them, and quit b!7@#ing.
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"What bothers me the most about this Centennial washer is the HORRIBLE seams in their SS tub. They are no where near the quality of the stainless seams in Maytag's old washers (neptune)."
See, you saw it too, lol!
Doesn't that seem like it could be problematic?
You'd be surprised how many people buy a washer and don't really take a good look under the lid...
See, you saw it too, lol!
Doesn't that seem like it could be problematic?
You'd be surprised how many people buy a washer and don't really take a good look under the lid...
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To answer the 'shreading' issue with my particular machine (Kenmore), made by Whirlpool does not slow down agitation at any point. With my machine, I can wash with the lid up, which I love to watch it. If I set the speed at anything other than fast, the clothes do not circulate well at all, especially if you are doing towels or sheets, so for most loads, I have no choice but to keep it on the super speed. Perhaps 'shreading' is too strong a word to use, but this is the only machine I have had that wears out jeans faster, makes the collars and sleve ends of my shirts wear in a way no other has, and actually does cause some holes in some clothes that look like the material was actually pulled apart. The clothes are so tangled after the wash, it is sometimes hard to get them out of the machine. Three other memebers of my extended family also have Whirpool direct drive machines, and every one of them has the same issue, and are therefore displeased with thier machines. You can also find plenty of these types of complaints on other forums. Believe me, I truly like the 'look' of the machine I have, and the fact that it washes lid up, so I would not look to knock the machine, and actually bought it because I thought it would clean well (which it does). I can only hope that the new Maytags are a bit more gentle on the clothes, then for sure I would buy one.
shredding
so this sounds like a widespread complaint.
Is WP aware of this? I know they're a big conglomerate, but when companies are faced with widespread issues like this, and there's that many disgruntled workers. I'd be hard pressed to think they'd just leave it be.
Have enough people complained to the company?
Sounds like they need to slow things down a bit.
so this sounds like a widespread complaint.
Is WP aware of this? I know they're a big conglomerate, but when companies are faced with widespread issues like this, and there's that many disgruntled workers. I'd be hard pressed to think they'd just leave it be.
Have enough people complained to the company?
Sounds like they need to slow things down a bit.
They have ... most current machines (except maybe the BOL models) run half the wash agitation at high speed on the Normal cycle, then switch to low speed for the remainder. Light Soil setting typically starts at the low speed point. Heavy Duty cycle (for those with it) typically runs at high speed for the duration. KitchenAids with 3-speed motors ran the medium motor speed for high agitation, dunno if Whirly and Kenmore 3-speeders do that.
Maytag Centennial
Just had a conversation with a relative today and they were talking to friends yesterday. The subject of washers came up and they told her of their new Maytag washer that ruined two light jackets they washed. It riped the zippers on the jackets. I guess what had been written on the forum about "shredder" must be true. I only had my new Whirlpool washer and dryer about 6 months before I replaced them with the Neptunes but I did notice a big difference between the Whirlpool top loader and the Neptune. I did not have clothes ripped but it was very noticeable that the Neptunes treated the clothes gently.You guys know what you are talking about.
Just had a conversation with a relative today and they were talking to friends yesterday. The subject of washers came up and they told her of their new Maytag washer that ruined two light jackets they washed. It riped the zippers on the jackets. I guess what had been written on the forum about "shredder" must be true. I only had my new Whirlpool washer and dryer about 6 months before I replaced them with the Neptunes but I did notice a big difference between the Whirlpool top loader and the Neptune. I did not have clothes ripped but it was very noticeable that the Neptunes treated the clothes gently.You guys know what you are talking about.
Shredding - Depends on the User
My mother and Michaels mother both have had DD Whirlpools, Mums is a 7.5kg model coming up to 7 years old, still working perfectly, it was replaced with a FL machine in November to save water. I think the key seems to be how much you overload the machine. In 7 years, we've never had it "Eat" a garment, some towels have frayed around the edges, but they're 20 years old with almost weekly washing. As long as anything you put in there can move freely, we've never had a problem.
Michael's mother had a 6kg DD Whirlpool (60cms wide) that after 3 loads every day for 2 elderyly people for 10 years, finally blew its cluch 18 months ago. She is a chronic underloader, IE those 3 loads per day, would be 3 bath towels and a bathmat, some feminine undergarments and whites, and a load of colours. Her towels are comming up to nearly 35 years old (95% were wedding presents) and they still look and feel as good as they did new.
I think the problem Whirlpool have faced, is how to deal with chronic overloading and getting huge capacities, whilst still getting the load clean. If you overload any slow stroke machine, nothing moves around, it just sloshes backwards and forwards. If you Pack a fast stroke machine to the gills, you'll always get turnover with the corkscrew agitator.
Again its a case of a manufacturer giving the market what it needs. We might think its a bad idea, but for 95% of the population, they can just stuff it full and walk away.
My mother and Michaels mother both have had DD Whirlpools, Mums is a 7.5kg model coming up to 7 years old, still working perfectly, it was replaced with a FL machine in November to save water. I think the key seems to be how much you overload the machine. In 7 years, we've never had it "Eat" a garment, some towels have frayed around the edges, but they're 20 years old with almost weekly washing. As long as anything you put in there can move freely, we've never had a problem.
Michael's mother had a 6kg DD Whirlpool (60cms wide) that after 3 loads every day for 2 elderyly people for 10 years, finally blew its cluch 18 months ago. She is a chronic underloader, IE those 3 loads per day, would be 3 bath towels and a bathmat, some feminine undergarments and whites, and a load of colours. Her towels are comming up to nearly 35 years old (95% were wedding presents) and they still look and feel as good as they did new.
I think the problem Whirlpool have faced, is how to deal with chronic overloading and getting huge capacities, whilst still getting the load clean. If you overload any slow stroke machine, nothing moves around, it just sloshes backwards and forwards. If you Pack a fast stroke machine to the gills, you'll always get turnover with the corkscrew agitator.
Again its a case of a manufacturer giving the market what it needs. We might think its a bad idea, but for 95% of the population, they can just stuff it full and walk away.
In response to the last post here, I for one, do not overload our machine, I have been very careful about that. I can tell you that damage has happened to some of our clothes no matter what size load we have done, or how little is in the load, in fact, there have been times where only a FEW garments have been washed, with plenty of water in the tub, and they were damaged. I have been in the past doing Laundry with a GE and NORGE for 30 years, and never had this happen regardless of the load. For someone to blame a 'design flaw' on the 'USER' as defined above is not fair. I am sure there may be some machines that work fine and do not do this, but for the most part, I think the wash action design of this machine is terrible for this reason. I have 3 kids with dirty socks etc. and all traditional machines I had cleaned the clothes excellently without damaging them. You are welcome to your opinion, I only know what I have experienced with this machine, as 3 other extended family members who also own Whirlpool made machines all have had the same issue, one being my Mom, who had 6 kids and different brands of washers over the years, that never did this either, now she 'hates' her Whirlpool becaues of this issue as well, she says it is the worst washer she has ever had, and she has the model that actually does 'switch between speeds', and she still has problems. All of us would not be posting our experience with this ONE brand if we didn't experience it, and keep in mind, we ALL have used other brands of washer without this issue.
Well, I just bought a regular old DD Whirlpool TL machine to replace a much-hated Fridigaire FL that I had. Will let you all know how it does if you are interested. I am not new to the DD Whirlpool; I "inherited" one in a house purchase and thought it was fine. But then I got the FL bug, so I ditched it. I ended up sorry that I did, and I think I will happy to be back again. We shall see.
Actually, the Maytag "Dependable Care" machine that I owned previously seemed to chew up clothes much more than the Whirlpool did. Most of the noticeable wear on my clothes can be traced directly to that machine.
Just my own experience.
Actually, the Maytag "Dependable Care" machine that I owned previously seemed to chew up clothes much more than the Whirlpool did. Most of the noticeable wear on my clothes can be traced directly to that machine.
Just my own experience.
