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I can't believe my eyes!

Greg,
I can't get over you have a Maytag Combo!
I always thought that if someone did find one, it would be one that someone put out in their yard or barn, and it had been sitting there for 30 years or so. The machine you found looks like it is showroom condition!
I could not be more happy for you!
Can't wait to hear about the first trial run. I bet that there is nothing at all wrong with it!
Thanks for the pictures!
I just can't get over your find!
Brent
 
what a find.

Congrats on your rare find. Thankyou for keeping us posted and the time to take pics after the "roadtrip" This is an electric 220v. machine?, The small dial turns and not the large one with the numbers and the blue tab is moved to the drying stop time, is that right? Thanks again alr2903
 
more info...

Hi all and thanks for the well-wishes on the new baby! It is a beauty and I'm very lucky to have one in such nice condition. I wired a cord to it last night - 30A/240v - and fired it up. There were two distinct squeals, more like screams, from the mechanism. One was from the pump and the other was the blower pulley rubbing against the transmission housing. I suspect the previous owner used it mostly as a dryer so there is probably lots of lint and hard water scale from the condenser system jammed in the pump and around the blower and baffle system. Maytag used an interesting method for their "Sealed In Climate" condenser dryers, it has a blower spinning at 2150 rpm which a stream of water is directed to at the rate of approx. 3 1/2 pints per minute. When that stream of water hits that spinning fan/blower, it gets smashed apart and creates a mist effect to condense the warm moisture being drawn in from the drum. The cooled, dry air is then directed back through the heating elements and into the drum. This same design was also used in their condenser stand-alone dryers up until the introduction of the '06' models in 1966. The good news is that the transmission seems to work fine in tumble and spin modes although judging by the years-old oil mess on the base plate, looks like it needs to be refilled with oil.

The controls for the washer are fairly straightforward, there is a chime that sounds at the end of the wash phase and again at the end of the drying phase when Wash & Wear is selected and there is no heating of the clothes during the final spin on the W&W or Delicate cycles. W&W defaults to cold rinsing no matter what wash temp is chosen. There is a spray rinse and three deep rinses, the timed fab. softener dispenser is activated in the final rinse of all cycles. The bleach dispenser is a simple holding tank that is flushed in the main wash and emptied during drain (connected to sump). The dryer timer is the small tab on the control dial which selects the drying time after the wash cycle.

I found the service manual for this model 340W combo on ebay a while back so I'm also very lucky to have all this information. Even though it's in good cosmetic condition, I'll still have to disassemble it to make sure the blower/condenser assembly is clean and inspect/repair the pump, etc. which will probably all add up to no small job. I'm anxious to see it running (there is a tub light that will undoubtedly be wired "on" whenever the machine is running ;-) so I will take pics all along the journey to it's first load.
 
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So does anyone know what was so bad about these machines that Maytag felt compelled to recall them? That's a pretty big step, something they haven't even done with the Neptune. Fortunately, there probably won't be much trouble with this machine since it won't be seeing the service it would in a normal household. Do you think Maytag might have thrown out all the spare parts figuring they wouldn't need them because of the recall? Hopefully not.
 
Greg -- sounds like fun!

So would you say that the Maytag Combo used just as much, if not more water during the dry cycle as the Bendix Combo that you have? I have to say that it sounds like such a complex drying system. I bet the clothes would come out so fluffy with all of the moisture.
What does the machine look like with the back off? Is it very crowded under the cabinet, or does it lot's of space to work around?
I still can't get over you have this combo!
Brent
 
Recall!?!

Kenmore1978 asked: "So does anyone know what was so bad about these machines that Maytag felt compelled to recall them? That's a pretty big step ..." Wow! I agree! That is a VERY big step! I knew that they were rare, but this is the first time that I've ever heard anything about Maytag recalling their combos! (Did I miss a memo?) I just assumed (yes, I know what happens when you assume! LOL!) that that Maytag combos didn't sell every well and that's why they were so rare. Now that I think about, a recall actually makes sense. Like Kenmore1978, I'd be interested in knowing what happened. Were they reliability issues (something that current management seems to have forgotten all about!) associated with Maytag combos? Was there a safety issue? Any details would be much appreciated.

Thanks!

Mike
 
Greg,I am so glad to hear that you found a Maytag combo!!!!!When I was a child and would go to the appliance graveyards nearby,I would see them and admire their design.I never got to bring one home but always hoped once I was collecting them that I would find one of these creatures but to no avail.From what I have seen on line of your other classics and how you have made diamonds out of rocks,I can hardly wait to see the unvailing of your most beautiful peace of art seen in decades.Many thanks for your passion,interest,care and knowledge in appliances especially washers and dryers!!Take us all for a spin sometime!!!!
 
Water Use/ Recall

The Bendix combo used about a gallon per minute for drying so the Maytag is a bit more thrifty that way. The washing/rinsing was about the same if not a little more with three deep rinses and the flush/spray rinse.

I'm very curious as well to know what catastrophic problems led Maytag to finally recall or buy back all those machines. Westinghouse did the same thing with their combo as well, and around the same mid-late 60's timeframe. At the owner's option, Maytag (and Westy) would give you a new washer & dryer to replace the combo. I've heard they were frought with troubles, timer, tranny, etc. in addition to higher the labor costs to repair, etc. We'll have to do more research on this, unfortunately many of the people who would know were "relocated" to keep the secret forever - just kidding! ;-)
 
Water Usage / Recall

Very interesting about the water usage. Man, I did not know, or forgot that the Bendix combo with condenser dryer used so much water. I guess your Maytag combo is really not all that bad.
About the recall. I think that Maytag was just getting the world to know how great and reliable their top loaders and dryers were. I wonder if they thought, or were afraid that the combo would ruin their track record, so decided to pull them out of homes, and pretend the cobo never exisited. It is also interesting to think about yours making it this far. It may have been a "good one" that the owner was happy with.
I have a book called "Maytag, an American Icon". In it they talk about everything up to the late 80's. Not a mention about this beautiful combo. I was so shocked to hear that you guys saw the combo at the Maytag museum.
I am still so excited about your find!
Brent
 
They had a brand new combo at the Maytag historical display in the Jasper County museum in Newton and another in the Maytag factory store.

Here is the inside of the one at the factory store - with the box of Dash still inside!

The link is to the pics of the trip to the store last year, nearly all the machines on display were new - never used!


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Pump Repair

Hi Greg:
I like the fact you need to get into the machine. I always like to get into a machine because it makes you familiar with it and that makes it your machine. When I get a washer that needs no work and just runs I never feel like its mine. Reading the service "doctrine" and disassembling the unit gets you familiar with how it works so when it fails again you have a pretty good idea of what is wrong before you even open up the mechanism for repair.
I envy you the pump & blower repair that is the fun part.
Has anyone seen any recall literature from Maytag regarding what the reasons were, Maytag might have told their dealers why they were going to recall these machines?? I will check with Grays here in Melrose they have been in business for 75 years as a Maytag dealer they may have all the service beacons.
 
I hope that you can find something Jon, I have been wondering myself if anyone had any of the actual recall letters or knew anymore about it. Keep us posted.
 
That is so exciting to find a washing machine so rare!

Congratulations.

Tell me, how much can be viewed from the window in the door. It looks rather small, but being maytag, one should be grateful its there at all.

I am sure the lighted tub? would make it an interesting experience.
 

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