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Maytag Dependable Care Washers Extinct
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Wow, if Maytag is worse than even GE, that is a very sad commentary. I steer clear of anything GE, but never thought I'd have to question Maytag. Something is very wrong when one manufacturer can buy up others, eliminate proven technology and reduce the number of choices for the consumer. What happened to the customer being king? Now we are mere pawns. This merger mania needs to be stopped!
runematic
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The stackers used the orbital. Unfortunately the LSE7806 dependable care-base unit has been discontinued and will be replaced by a whirlclone dd. There still are a lot of the LSE7806 available from the factory. It'll be a shame to see these go away.
'What happened to the customer being king? Now we are mere pawns. This merger mania needs to be stopped'
This is capitalism at it's greedy best. More and more we are having our choices dictated to us. As another poster pointed out in another thread, manufacturers are telling consumers to take this and be happy with what we give you and live with it...very sad indeed
This is capitalism at it's greedy best. More and more we are having our choices dictated to us. As another poster pointed out in another thread, manufacturers are telling consumers to take this and be happy with what we give you and live with it...very sad indeed
llmaytag
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GadgetGary's New Machine
Gary,
How's it working out for you? I'm thinking of getting one even though I have the new Whirlpool.
Gary,
How's it working out for you? I'm thinking of getting one even though I have the new Whirlpool.
smooth spin
they're not lying.
Maytag machines have always had some of the quietest spin cycles that i've heard.
the commercial washers i use have a virtually silent spin. they must have good motors, cuz our 1982 LA511 has a LOUD motor. I'm not sure if it's ready to fail or not. But other than the loud motor hum, the spin is still smooth as silk.
they're not lying.
Maytag machines have always had some of the quietest spin cycles that i've heard.
the commercial washers i use have a virtually silent spin. they must have good motors, cuz our 1982 LA511 has a LOUD motor. I'm not sure if it's ready to fail or not. But other than the loud motor hum, the spin is still smooth as silk.
pturo
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I just dont think there is much argument valid against the fact that Maytag ruled in terms of dependability, engineering, and ease of service. Those machines are still around today from the late 50's to the 90's with the same internal design. It was and will always be the best designed washing machine for it's simplicity and performance. Highly more dependable than Whirlpool, which had a stupid wig wag clutch and terrible balance,and poor service record. Maytag should have bought Whirlpool to teach them how to build a washing machine. Maytag is/was the number one brand recogniton in surveys when consumers were asked to name a washing machine, Whilpool was second. I hate the fact that in this country any other company can swallow another good one with a hostile takeover. We used to have regional department stores like Marshall Fields and Filenes and May Company and Lord and Taylor...now it is all freeking Macys. What choice does that give consumers? What choice did the Whirlpool/Maytag buyout give consumers? We are a democratic country that is creating retail communism. Walmart and Macys are going to be our only choices, until Walmart buys Macys,and I am sure the US Attoney General will approve of that, too.
Maybe you should check this site and see some of the finds that are WP /KM from the fifties that seem to run with very minor repairs. As far as WP/KM with poor reliability....they were the closest to Maytag.
Looks like WP is going to show how a modern Maytag should last.
Looks like WP is going to show how a modern Maytag should last.
Face facts, it was either Whirlpool, Haier or a private equity group who bought Maytag, but make no mistake the company was either going to be sold or fold. Sad but Maytag made too many mistakes for Wall Street and with it's stock price in the tank, lots of debt and an expensive union work force (nothing against unions) the hand writing was on the wall.
The only other salvation for Maytag would have been if some one with deep pockets and appliance experince/love of appliances bought Maytag and shook things up, but again with all the liabilites Maytag had, not many were interested. Those that were probably would have done what happened during the last M&A boom of the 1980's. Bought Maytag and sold off anything of value to make money.
Sure people go on about vintage Maytag's but those machines were from a different time and era. All that metal,chrome, stainless steel, porcelain, rust proof dips, multiple coats of coloured paint and so forth cost money. A top of the line Maytag from the 1960's or 1970's would probably cost almost one thousand dollars in today's money. In the current climate where top loading washing machines are on their way to becoming an endangered species, no company is going to tool out a plant to produce a washer that never can produce, much less sell enough units to recoup costs.
One of the real sad things about Whirlpool getting their mitts on Maytag, is all the great brand names under Maytag's umbrella that came with the deal. Hoover has been sold off, but there are enough historic appliance names left.
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The only other salvation for Maytag would have been if some one with deep pockets and appliance experince/love of appliances bought Maytag and shook things up, but again with all the liabilites Maytag had, not many were interested. Those that were probably would have done what happened during the last M&A boom of the 1980's. Bought Maytag and sold off anything of value to make money.
Sure people go on about vintage Maytag's but those machines were from a different time and era. All that metal,chrome, stainless steel, porcelain, rust proof dips, multiple coats of coloured paint and so forth cost money. A top of the line Maytag from the 1960's or 1970's would probably cost almost one thousand dollars in today's money. In the current climate where top loading washing machines are on their way to becoming an endangered species, no company is going to tool out a plant to produce a washer that never can produce, much less sell enough units to recoup costs.
One of the real sad things about Whirlpool getting their mitts on Maytag, is all the great brand names under Maytag's umbrella that came with the deal. Hoover has been sold off, but there are enough historic appliance names left.
L.
Hoover was getting really shitty too. As awesome as Maytag was, in these past 5 years, the stuff they produced really was garbage. They lost their way. I, for one am very glad Whirlpool ate them. It's a much better scenario than Haier buying them. I have a Haier dishwasher in my apartment right now...and the only thing that is stopping me from tossing it out the window is that it doesn't belong to me.
It runs and washes OK....but it is THE WORST built appliance I have ever seen. The words fit and finish cannot go anywhere near this machine. Whirlpool's Durawash BOL machines are WAY WAY better than this piece of shit. The only thing that saves it is its GE pump system.
From what I see, Whirlpool is going to refresh the Maytag name and make it stand for what it used to. They're already off to a great start with the FL washers being Duet templates. The Duet is probably the best FL washer America can make. The Maytag Neptune was absolutely fantastic, better even, except...it's longevity just wasn't there.
It runs and washes OK....but it is THE WORST built appliance I have ever seen. The words fit and finish cannot go anywhere near this machine. Whirlpool's Durawash BOL machines are WAY WAY better than this piece of shit. The only thing that saves it is its GE pump system.
From what I see, Whirlpool is going to refresh the Maytag name and make it stand for what it used to. They're already off to a great start with the FL washers being Duet templates. The Duet is probably the best FL washer America can make. The Maytag Neptune was absolutely fantastic, better even, except...it's longevity just wasn't there.
exploder3211
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Our Maytag (amana-esque)dryer is great it my book... It works well.. Otherwise from what i've seen/heard/read of maytag products, they are not good at all.. What a shame... What would it cost to bring out another another belt drive d.w??
oxydolfan1
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"Hoover was getting really shitty too."
In recent years, especially so. It used to be my favorite vacuum, but now they manufacture so many models that are so horrendous that, except for the delighful Constellation canister (outsourced), the decent Bagless Canister (outsourced as well, to LG), and one "Foldaway" model (the yellow one) whose main attribute is low price, I advise people to stay away from them.
Duros, Portable, Savvy, V2, Rewind, WindTunnel 2 Bagless....horrendous.
Tempo and Widepath Preferred Bagged...okay, but there are better choices for the money...
The Bagless Windtunnel 2 represents, design-wise, the final demented horror of what can happen when chintzy plastic, too many Star Wars reruns, and a destructive brushroll collide.
Whirlpool can at least reenergize and rebuild Maytag's name (if they can even be bothered, at this point).
Does anyone have much confidence that a company like TTI (or whoever) can resurrect Hoover's?
(Not a rhetorical question...can it be done? And could it actually get worse?)
In recent years, especially so. It used to be my favorite vacuum, but now they manufacture so many models that are so horrendous that, except for the delighful Constellation canister (outsourced), the decent Bagless Canister (outsourced as well, to LG), and one "Foldaway" model (the yellow one) whose main attribute is low price, I advise people to stay away from them.
Duros, Portable, Savvy, V2, Rewind, WindTunnel 2 Bagless....horrendous.
Tempo and Widepath Preferred Bagged...okay, but there are better choices for the money...
The Bagless Windtunnel 2 represents, design-wise, the final demented horror of what can happen when chintzy plastic, too many Star Wars reruns, and a destructive brushroll collide.
Whirlpool can at least reenergize and rebuild Maytag's name (if they can even be bothered, at this point).
Does anyone have much confidence that a company like TTI (or whoever) can resurrect Hoover's?
(Not a rhetorical question...can it be done? And could it actually get worse?)
Consumers have been conditoned to prefer "dirct drive" over belts as newer and better, thus one finds less and less demand for such items. Savvy consumers or those with a good appliance repair person around for advice however know that appliances with belts can go on forever as belts are easily replaced. When something goes out on a DD model, then most things considered it is better to chuck the thing out and by new.
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