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Maytag (Point Voyager Pics) After Citric Acid Cleaning
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murando531
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I've honestly always been afraid of using bleach or vinegar regularly in a dishwasher or washing machine, because of the effect it has on the seals and such. I just use either Cascade Complete pacs or Finish Powerballs with good Jet-Dry, and I never have any troubles at all with cleaning or smells. Every other month or so, I'll run a half load or so of dishes that aren't terribly dirty, along with the mesh drain strainers from the sink, and they get a Heavy/maxed out options cycle, and I'll put a splash of bleach in for the prewash, just as a periodical "maintenance" cycle. Really though, the Maytag and WP PowerClean both keep themselves so clean even with the filth they see regularly that I've decided to keep the harsh chemicals to a minimum.
mark_wpduet
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Good point
but the amount of bleach I use is so small and it gets flushed away quickly...but you're probably right about keeping harsh chemicals to a minimum.
but the amount of bleach I use is so small and it gets flushed away quickly...but you're probably right about keeping harsh chemicals to a minimum.
most of the cleaning power in
new detergents is high alkalinity + enzymes. They keep trying to improve enzymes that will work in higher and higher alkaline systems. You search the current patents for enzymes and its all aimed at more alkaline durable enzymes.
Mark is right bleach will stop enzyme action asap. So keeping those two separate is they best way to use them. That is if you want enzyme action AND bleach action.
Anybody remember the old smell of Cascade back in the 60-70's? It smelled wonderful in a machine running. Somehow in changing the formula completely they have lost that smell. Anybody have a box of 1960's cascade with the ingredients?
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new detergents is high alkalinity + enzymes. They keep trying to improve enzymes that will work in higher and higher alkaline systems. You search the current patents for enzymes and its all aimed at more alkaline durable enzymes.
Mark is right bleach will stop enzyme action asap. So keeping those two separate is they best way to use them. That is if you want enzyme action AND bleach action.
Anybody remember the old smell of Cascade back in the 60-70's? It smelled wonderful in a machine running. Somehow in changing the formula completely they have lost that smell. Anybody have a box of 1960's cascade with the ingredients?
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mark_wpduet
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What smell?
I wasn't alive in the 60s, and being born in the early 70s, I can only remember things from about 1976 and forward.....anyway, I always remember the sanitized chlorine smell when the dishwasher was running.....I don't remember any other smell.
what did the 60s detergent smell like other than chlorine?
I guess I'm not so paranoid about using a little chlorine because that was an ingredient in dishwasher detergents for AGES, and dishwasher that used them lasted a long time.....Then again, the were built better....LOL
I wasn't alive in the 60s, and being born in the early 70s, I can only remember things from about 1976 and forward.....anyway, I always remember the sanitized chlorine smell when the dishwasher was running.....I don't remember any other smell.
what did the 60s detergent smell like other than chlorine?
I guess I'm not so paranoid about using a little chlorine because that was an ingredient in dishwasher detergents for AGES, and dishwasher that used them lasted a long time.....Then again, the were built better....LOL
It was
a very chemical smell , like chlorine plus something. It is a strong smell from childhood.
a very chemical smell , like chlorine plus something. It is a strong smell from childhood.
Mark, does your Maytag run two prewashes? Because my Bosch does a heated prewash, drains and then fills for the main wash. I wonder if residual chlorine bleach would kill the enzymes?
I love
Cascade from the '70s. It was a nice fresh smell.
Cascade from the '70s. It was a nice fresh smell.
mark_wpduet
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Logixx
I don't think it does 2 prewashes, but it does a purge after the prewash and fills with some water then drains before the main wash.....I was afraid of this too, remaining bleach killing the enzymes, but it's not.. It still works great. I think it's too small of an amount of bleach I'm using, add to the fact that it's diluted with the prewash and purge before the main wash, most of it's gone when the main wash starts. Like I said, the last time I ran a load, I added phosphate power in with the finish powerball main wash section, and at the end, the interior of the dishwasher looked spotless, I mean noting but shiny stainless. With just the powerball, you could see water spots on the stainless.
I don't think it does 2 prewashes, but it does a purge after the prewash and fills with some water then drains before the main wash.....I was afraid of this too, remaining bleach killing the enzymes, but it's not.. It still works great. I think it's too small of an amount of bleach I'm using, add to the fact that it's diluted with the prewash and purge before the main wash, most of it's gone when the main wash starts. Like I said, the last time I ran a load, I added phosphate power in with the finish powerball main wash section, and at the end, the interior of the dishwasher looked spotless, I mean noting but shiny stainless. With just the powerball, you could see water spots on the stainless.
Cascade smell
One of the Cascade POD's that comes up every so often mentions that "you'll love Cascade pretty green color and pine scent" or something to that effect. But I do remember that it had the best fragrance when the dishwasher was running.
One of the Cascade POD's that comes up every so often mentions that "you'll love Cascade pretty green color and pine scent" or something to that effect. But I do remember that it had the best fragrance when the dishwasher was running.
cascade citrus breeze
I prefer cascade in the citrus breeze scent. I remember one time I ran it through my point voyager that I used to have. It would freshen up the entire kitchen, maybe even the entire living room.
I prefer cascade in the citrus breeze scent. I remember one time I ran it through my point voyager that I used to have. It would freshen up the entire kitchen, maybe even the entire living room.
maytag dishwashers
I wonder what will become of the new maytag dishwashers. How do the latest designs sound?
I wonder what will become of the new maytag dishwashers. How do the latest designs sound?
