I just got a new suds saver hose so I hooked it up and bad news. Even with the switch set for "save suds" it drains out of the main hose which is suppose to be in the stand pipe. When I set it to "return suds" the machine sucks through the stand pipe hose again and not the suds return hose. Any tips or things I should be looking at to fix this problem? Any help would be wonderful!
Maytag Suds Saver Help!!!!
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westytoploader
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Sounds like a bad suds return solenoid/diverter valve to me. Do you hear a loud "BANG" when set for "Save Suds" or the "Suds Return" setting?
You can try to see if the diverter valve shaft is frozen; or maybe it's not receiving any power. Be careful, work with the machine unplugged or take special precautions when testing it live to prevent shock.
Pump!
Should there be two seperate hoses going from the pump to the two seperate exit hoses. I see the problem now. I believe what has happened was at some time in the past the pump went bad and instead of spending the extra money and buying the right pump they bought one for a none suds saving model. They removed the hose that connects the pump to the suds return hose because there was no longer a nipple to hook it to and then cut the wires to the solenoid diverter. Is the right pump still available? Does anyone has a spare? I'm not sure if it is worth trying to fix this though I really have always wanted a suds saver model.
Should there be two seperate hoses going from the pump to the two seperate exit hoses. I see the problem now. I believe what has happened was at some time in the past the pump went bad and instead of spending the extra money and buying the right pump they bought one for a none suds saving model. They removed the hose that connects the pump to the suds return hose because there was no longer a nipple to hook it to and then cut the wires to the solenoid diverter. Is the right pump still available? Does anyone has a spare? I'm not sure if it is worth trying to fix this though I really have always wanted a suds saver model.
Nope, almost right, though.
The pump has one hose from the tub leading into it, and one hose leading out. The out hose should go to the diverter valve. Then there should be two hoses from the diverty valve - one to the normal drain hose, the other to the suds saver hose.
The diverter valve will divert the pump output (and input) to either the drain hose or the suds save hose, but not both at once. The washer motor will reverse for suds saving and the pump works equally well forwards or backwards. Forwards, it drains. Backwards, it sucks. It's always going, even when agitating. It's just the various valves that direct it to pump out, pump in, or do nothing at all.
Here's a photo of the original working pump on my A606S:
The pump has one hose from the tub leading into it, and one hose leading out. The out hose should go to the diverter valve. Then there should be two hoses from the diverty valve - one to the normal drain hose, the other to the suds saver hose.
The diverter valve will divert the pump output (and input) to either the drain hose or the suds save hose, but not both at once. The washer motor will reverse for suds saving and the pump works equally well forwards or backwards. Forwards, it drains. Backwards, it sucks. It's always going, even when agitating. It's just the various valves that direct it to pump out, pump in, or do nothing at all.
Here's a photo of the original working pump on my A606S:
And here's a shot of the diverter valve from the rear. Note the two hoses coming out of it - one for normal drain, the other for suds save/return. Visible also is the single hose leading from the pump.
And here's a full view of the lower part of the cabinet, clearly showing a single hose coming into the pump, and a single hose leading from the pump to the diverter valve.
All you may *need* to do is to reconnect the leads to the diverter valve - it may still work - and then you'll be suds saving again.
Some repair people liked to disconnect suds saving devices because it was one less thing to break down or result in a service call for no reason. Maybe the previous owner didn't want two drain hoses, no room in the standpipe. Who knows? The thing to do is to experiment (safely) with it, or find someone who will do it for you.
Some repair people liked to disconnect suds saving devices because it was one less thing to break down or result in a service call for no reason. Maybe the previous owner didn't want two drain hoses, no room in the standpipe. Who knows? The thing to do is to experiment (safely) with it, or find someone who will do it for you.
Oops, sorry, that last shot was of my A606 non suds saver version. Looks like I'm going to have to pull the front panel off the A606S and snap a shot.
Later.
Later.
Ok, here's the same shot view, but of the A606S lower cabinet. It's pretty much the same, one hose into pump, one house out of pump.
In any case, I think you can see why repair people didn't like suds savers. The diverter valve is way in the back of the cabinet. It's hard to simply get a good photo of, let alone get at for troubleshooting/repair/replacement. Maytag washers were otherwise known for their ease of service - both the motor and pump are right up front, and can be serviced without even having to move the machine. And the belts can be replaced by simply moving the machine a foot or two from the wall, and tilting it back (and maybe removing the belt guard if any). The diverter valve looks like it would require some contortions and scraped knuckles to get at.
filterflo
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John has a Maytag 140S, which has a slightly different suds diverter valve than the standard one found in most Maytags. His would be a 4 port diverter, with a built in suds pump and motor. Im not sure of the hose routing but it does connect slightly different than the standard 3 port diverters. Perhaps another club member can help John with the hose routing.......
filterflo
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Maytag 4port suds diverter.....
Ah, I thought that he was the one with the 606S. Sorry.
Never mind.
Never mind.
