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Occasionally at work I tune the radio (unlike an office situaiton, we can have radios playing in the machine shop) to a Mexican station. Today I heard something a bit different: old American pop songs from the 50's, sung in Spanish. My grasp of the language is somewhat limited, but it appeared that it was a rough translation of the original lyrics. Actually, I thought the sound was pretty cool - the older tunes from the 50's seem to lend themselves to hispanic style instrumentation. It was also sort of like hearing "Sukiyaki" sung in English... lol...
 
Sudsmaster

Its done a lot . I hear a lot of songs that I know from the 50 s and 60s.. They play the radio all the time in the plant. some of the songs that have "converted" That I hear lately , Just One Look, Cry, Runaround Sue, Runaway.. These are just a few there are about 20 that play here often. I wonder if the mexican artist try to make them think they are thier own songs? Sudsman
 
funny. at my work, the laundry dept has the radio playing over a PA system, and Spanish-language music is the music of choice. and at almost disco-volume! i often wonder what the stuffy non-mexicans think when they pass the laundry, the doors open, and they are greeted by the oompa-oompa rhythm and romantic vocals.
 
Surprisingly enough, Mexican and polka music are basically the same beat wise. I do find some of the Hispanic music a little too syrupy for my liking though.
 
I am sorry if this offends any one, but i find it annoying. We live with it around us and Johnny deals with spanish at work and deals with this music alot. They play it loud and complain if they must listen to anything else.. Ughhhh....
 
I've always found Mexican polka music entertaining. The 60's-70's station in Houston, 107.5 KLDE, which I listen to when I'm not tuned to the country station in Brenham, also shares the station number with a Mexican station in Austin. When I drove back & forth to Brenham last summer for classes, I would have it on 107.5 and would catch "Johnny Carminez in the morning" on the way up. The only thing I didn't like was that sometimes it would interfere when a good song was playing.

When I'm on the way to school here it interferes occasionally, and the upbeat accordion music provides a welcome break from the commercials. Seeing as how I'll be going to school in Austin starting this summer, I'll probably be listening to that station more, who knows? LOL
 
musica Mexicana!

Not surprising that a lot of American pop tunes get translated from Spanish to English. Remember the Latin influence of the late 1950s? Buddy Holly, if I recall, was originally from Texas, and there was a certain Latin undertone in his earliest hits. Ritchie Valens, too, added to the fun. And of course, "Tequila"...

If I understand more traditional Mexican music, there is a style called "ranchera" that owes much of its sound to European (German?) influence, hence the polka sound, accordions, etc... another style, "cumbia," has a 2/4 rhythm and tosses some hand percussion (usually bongos) into the mix.

The late Selena revived serious interest in the Tex-Mex sound, in which Linda Ronstadt also dabbled...

Of course (as you can guess from the member name), I enjoy jamming to this kind of music!
 
When I went to Germany in 1990, I was very surprised that old American country music was very popular. I enjoyed listening to the radio there because that is the type of music I listened to then. Most songs were in english, but I remember pissing off a bus driver when a German language version of "Jambalaya" came on. I busted out laughing. I didn't mean to offend him, but it was a surprise, and I was actually enjoying it (I was laughing in a 'Wow that's cool' sort of way), but he mistook my intentions and turned the radio down with a huff. I was very careful afterward not do something like that - I really like the German people and didn't wish to seem like another arrogant American tourist.

I went to a beerfest and the entertainer was a man known as Mr. Cadillac. He wore a cowboy hat and sang old American country songs while playing an accordian.

Everyone is right: when I turn on a Latino music station, it sounds like I'm back in a beerhall in Germany, except the lyrics are in spanish.
 
My main complaint about Mexican music is the brassy off key "Banda" type stuff that simply grates on me. Here in California in the major market areas the Spanish stations consistently rate among the those with the highest number of listeners. I like the modern music and old standards but simply can't stand the "Banda" crap.

My main complaint about the Mexican stations is that they have way too much talk, they all love to have people call in during commercial breaks and waste time blathering about who knows what and they lose me when they do this instead of playing music. It's like Mexican stations are stuck in the 50's and 60's and still have radio personalities who do all the things that today come off as completely juvenile, so I end up hitting the scan button.

So who can explain this phenomenon? You're driving out in the sticks, or really anywhere, but mainly when you're on the road cruising the dial, and the only stations that come through loud--super loud--and clear, are the Mexican ones. What's up with that?
 
Yup, it can be pretty difficult to find stations in rural areas other than Mexican ones. Some of the music is decent, but the ads are usually frequent, long, LOUD, and often have this cheesy reverb effect that is campy at first and then just annoying. For my taste, it beats rap, but that's all.

The lack of variety in FM stations seems to be a fact of life now. It has little to do with Mexican, rock, jazz, county, or any other particular genre of music, and a lot to do with copycat station management who would rather try to steal listeners from whatever the local top-rated stations are instead of developing their own sound and their own market. So they all chase one market which becomes overserved at the expense of leaving everyone else out. If you like the musical "genre du jour" in your market, you're in luck. If you don't, too bad.

In a way it is much like the washer market, in that once upon a time customers could choose from a Bendix or Westy front loader, a Frigidaire Uni-Pulsa-Multi-Matic, a Kelvinator with the old ABC-O-Matic eccentric motion, or a conventional reciprocating agitator unit from Norge, Maytag, Whirlpool, etc. First the front loaders and Kelvinators went away, then the classic Frigidaires, and Americans were left with only the reciprocal top loaders. Now we're finally getting an option with new front loaders, but only because they are more efficient and import brands started selling them, not because domestic manufacturers actually thought some of us might prefer an alternative design.

I understand the need for profit and production efficiency, but when any market condneses itself too much Americans will always find an alternative. This is what is driving the growth of Sirius and XM, and if I spent much time driving outside of the city I'd sign up too.
 
I agree. At home we listen to the DMX or Music Choice through the Comcast cable or to the ipod on its boom box adapter. XM is looking better all the time. Save for the alcoholic/ultra right wingers who enjoy hate/moron talk, AM & FM are quickly becoming the entertainment resource for the low income demographic that can't afford cable, satellite or an ipod. The only place I listen to radio very much anymore is in the car while commuting, checking traffic reports. This is all on the AM dial. I hardly ever put FM on anymore, for all the reasons hydralique has mentioned above.
 
'Sploder:

"They play it loud and complain if they must listen to anything else."

Don't know what kind of work environment Johnny is in, but when I was in retail, I set the radio to a light classics station and told everyone it was a condition of their job that they leave it there, because that was the image I wanted for the store. I dismissed somebody who had it blaring on a pop station one day when I walked in without notice- which is WHY I walked in without notice (a customer had called me to tell me that employees were "having a party" and not paying sufficient attention to her needs when she'd been in). Didn't have to do that but once.

If you're in charge of a business, you're well within your rights to set a company radio to a particular station and leave it there, or to tell everyone that no personal music is permitted on company time. You cannot "outlaw" one particular type of music, but you can ban all personal devices.
 
borderblasters

Mexican radio stations in general cover a larger territory than their U. S. counterparts, and the Mexican government is more liberal (read casual) in allowing AM stations that operate at 100 or even 500 KW, compared to the maximum of 50KW the FCC allows here.

Radio stations all over the world work together--up to a point--to minimize interference, but again the Mexican government is a bit more casual about enforcement. At one point in the 1930s and 40s, stations such as XERF and XEAW could be heard--and sometimes overrode--American stations!

And they do today! (I remember hearing XEX out of Mexico City in 1969 or 1970 in St. Louis, and if what I heard was correct, they were broadcasting a Philco appliance commercial in Spanish).
 
border Blasters-Yes- in Mexico the broadcast rules are diffrent-and they allow greater transmitter power-most of the Mexican station run at 100Kw of power.Running a 500Kw transmitter-not to mention purchasing it-is VERY expensive-I run such transmitters at the facility where I work-they are shortwave instead of medium wave.Power requirements are high-the rig needs to run from medium voltage 3 phase.And the tube costs-each power tube will cost as much as your house!don't drop one!and you need a crane to lift them in or out of the transmitter.A tube crane comes with the transmitter.I have also visited a factory that builds these high powered transmitters-Continental electronics in Dallas Texas.they have supplied transmitters to Mexico.After all they are in the business of building and selling tranmsitters.Other countries buy them as well.Not long ago China bought 30 500Kw shortwave Continental model 420D tranmsitters.I know the fellow who worked at Continental at the time and he had to go to China to install and commission the units.
 
personally,

I liked Mexican and German popular music an awful lot better before I had learned enough Spanish and German to follow the lyrics.
To my ear, both are way too sentimental and saccharine sweet.
But - I'd much rather listen to the gooey sentiment and the echo chamber advertising (what is with that, anyway?) then the hate-filled, negative, misogynist, anti-gay rap which so many "black" stations play these days.
If the Mexican government takes the same attitude towards driver and equipment inspection they do towards other international treaties and affairs, may the gods help the Texans and everybody else driving on the same roads with them...
 
I remember listening to Wolfman Jack on the AM in remote campgrounds in middle California during the 60's. I understand he broadcast from a studio/transmitter in Tiajuana so that they could blast his show a lot farther than would have been possible with a US-based transmitter.

Being adolescents we all got a kick out of his gravelly slightly obscene voice and patter. I remember his endless commercials about "Mr. Satisified", which I was told was a sort of... well, lotion with a nerve desensitizer in it.
 
A radio station in Wash DC area where I used to work ran his show from tape.One night some teenagers stopped by the transmitter wanting to meet the Wolfman.I explained to them he wasn't with me -but they enjoyed seeing the transmitters.They insisted he was there-I showed them thruout the whole transmitter building-then they were convinced.Had to tell them not all studios and transmitters are in the same place.Little did they know he was prerecorded on tape!They also had his show playing on their car radio as well.
 

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