Miele Dishwasher Review and Video of it Running with Opened Door

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Hi all!

Here is the review I posted over a year ago on THS. I added some more pictures and two videos. One video shows how easy it is to clean the filter and the second video shows the dishwasher running through an empty pre-wash. BTW: the (high) quality on YouTube isn't quite as good as the original. *hmm*

By the way, the dishwasher is, of course, still performing like new... so here is the old review from Jan. 30th 2008:
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Okay folks, here’s my report on my Granny’s Miele 18 inch built-in dishwasher. It is a German model but in many ways identical to what is sold in the USA.

Click here to view the specs of the UK version of the G 1102 SCi.

The Controls

Using the dishwasher is pretty straightforward. As this is the entry-level unit, there aren’t too many button to choose from: On/Off, Start/Pause and the cycle selector. Opening the door could be a little easier if the door handle had a bit more grip to it. If you have wet hands you can easily slip off. There is also the option to lock the door.

The detergent dispenser is quite large inside so it’ll most likely handle any kind of tab. The rinse aid dispenser has to be filled a little more carefully as rinse aid can overflow if you pour too fast due to the positioning of the small opening. I think it’s bets to fill the RA dispenser when the door is half-closed. A feature I dislike is that you have to enter the amount of rinse aid to be added to the cycle via a menu – there isn’t just the regular dial found in all other dishwashers. Adding salt is a simple as in any dishwasher – no big deal here.

Selecting a cycle is very easy. They are listed from light to heavy. The Sensor Wash cycle is on top as it’s the one that’ll be used most of the time. Typically for European dishwashers, the cycles take rater long. Light 122°F takes 90 minutes; Intensive 167°F 2:35 hrs and the triple A-rated high-performance SaveEnergy cycle takes almost three hours. Bare in mind that this machine is set for the German market and these cycle times are nothing unusual here. Miele machines in the US most likely have shorter cycles programmed into them. Unfortunately, this model does not have a countdown timer on it, so you’ll just have to wait for the washer to finish. There are, however, Wash/Dry/End indicator lights - but IMO they are really rather superfluous as you can easily tell by listening, if the machine is washing or drying.

The Racks

Even though, I had never used a Miele dishwasher before, I had no problems fitting a large amount of dishes in the racks.

The bottom rack has two rows of tines. The front row can be folded down and the back row completely removed. Some of the tines are spaced slightly further apart to hold soup plates and such.

The middle rack has Miele’s fabulous height-adjustment feature. It allows you to set the rack at three different heights – each side independently. You can set one side of the middle rack to the low position to load tall glasses, while having the other side set to high for washing tall plates in the bottom rack. I really love that feature. The cup / utensil rack on the right side can also be adjusted in three positions: all the way up, if you don’t want to use it, all the way down for cups or halfway in between for utensils, if you still want to place cups underneath it.

The cutlery tray...well..! On the one hand, it really does free up a lot of space in the bottom rack and it doesn’t interfere too much with loading tall items into the middle rack but: loading each spoon, each fork, each knife, each whatever into it’s own little slot?! Sorry, but what a pain in the @$$. Okay, okay, before y’all yell at me I will confess that I have only used this dishwasher a few times and this probably isn’t enough to make final judgments about the tray’s usability – but for now: I’m not too impressed. I’m really more of a cutlery basket person. ;-) I have to admit, however, that unloading it is a breeze and I love the look of the cutlery all lines up in there.

Performance – Cleaning

It’s a Miele – do I need to say more? I haven’t really loaded it up to the max yet but I’ve already managed to fit quite large loads in there – items stacked over each other and all that. So far, I have no complaints at all about its cleaning performance.

Performance – Drying

This dishwasher uses the CleanAir system. The system consists of a fan and a special chamber outside of the tub. The chamber itself is divided into two separate sections. During the condensation drying part of the cycle, hot & humid air is pulled into one half of the chamber through a vent located above the cutlery tray. Moisture then condenses against a thin metal foil (I suppose it’s a metal foil) before the air is being blown back into the tub and recirculated. The other half of the chamber is constantly cooled by a flow of cool ambient air. The system is called CleanAir because "dirty" room air never touches the dish load – that is until you open the door. ;-) Be that as it may, the system works quite well: dishes and cutlery are mostly dry at the end of the cycle. Plastic items? It depends. Some plastics dry spotlessly, while others remain almost wet. Typical behavior for Euro dishwashers, though. I also like that the dishes are cooler and there is less steam escaping at the end of the cycle compared to our Bosch at home. However, I have to say that the drying cycle (more specifically the fan that comes on five minutes into to drying cycle) is surprisingly noisy...

Performance – Noise

Overall, it’s a quiet dishwasher rated at 46 dB. The only times the machine becomes loud(er) is when the recirculation pump is being pulsed on ‘n’ off at the end of each drain and when it fills for the first rinse after the main wash. And, as mentioned before, the drying fan is definitely noticeable. It’s about the same noise level as a desktop computer’s cooling fan. For the most part of the cycle all you can hear is some water sloshing – the recirc pump is practically silent.

Maintenance

This dishwasher must have one of the easiest filters to clean. It’s basically just one piece: you take it out, rinse any residue off and put it back in. I usually do this twice a month because I want the filter to be immaculate – but if you’re not a neat freak like me... you can easily get away with checking the filter every couple months. Other than that, there is practically no maintenance necessary.

To sum it all up

It’s a very nice dishwasher: cleans well, dries well and all at a decent noise level. The racks, even though this is an entry-level unit, are flexible. And everything is backed by Miele’s "Tested for 20 Years of Use / 10.000 Cycles" guarantee.

PICTURES AND VIDEOS
- Picture Slideshow
- Filter Cleaning
- See it Wash!

Hope you like it,

Alex
 
Love your detailed report and the See It Wash video !

If I ever need to replace my Bosch, it is going to be a BOL Miele perhaps with a countdown timer. Found it surprising to see all wash arms run simultaneous.
 
slimline

products from Miele and B/S/H are not regarded as lower quality in Europe, rather the opposite, the frequently are pricey and half a generation ahead of their bigger sisters. Just a different culture, I guess. Or the fact that even wealthy people here in Munich, for instance, frequently live in apartments which would be considered the size for social services housing in the US.

My Miele is now going on 10 years of perfect service. The Miele before put in 17 hard years before being dropped down two flights of stairs. That one was three phase (let's not, dahlinks, and say we didn't), with each phase rated at 16amps...wow.

Yes, mine and the one Logixx tested take quite a while to clean by American standards. Then again, I never pre-scrape, never pre-rinse and stuff like oatmeal, egg, mustard, potato, tomato sauces, garlic-y smelling stuff - all come off in a normal wash. Partly, of course it is because our detergents are vastly superior to the junk Americans have to suffer with (38% phosphate, enzymes and high efficiency oxygen bleach). But those long cycles and extremely hot water permit the enzymes to attack their victims and let everything actually come clean.

I have used German dishwasher tabs in a KA-16. The results were just as good as my Mieles...but in 27 minutes instead of nearly 2.5 hours.

I clean my filter every time I add salt to the regeneration, by the by. It never needs it, but just for hygiene's sake it seems like a good idea.

Miele dishwashers can also have their programming updated. Since mine got the highest ratings for energy and cleaning, I have never bothered, but a friend of mine here had it done to a rather older one recently and says it was like buying a brand new machine.

Miele, by the way, provides duty cycles for commercial use even on their BOL dishwasher. BOL doesn't mean lesser quality, it only means some of the posh stuff is left off.

Oh, and the cutlery rack - you are so right. I tried mine for a while than exchanged it for a bottom rack with friends who had the same model but had not ordered it. They love it, I prefer the silverware basket, we are all happy. I think it is one of those love and hate things like the Amana dishwashers with the cutlery baskets in the doors. I think they're great.

Hmm, the Amanas and Maytags also take forever and also clean quite well.

Thanks for the post!
 
Miele Update

I'm glad that Miele machines have been proven to be updateable in-situ, with minimum fuss and upheaval.

I had an AEG washer that was supposed to be able to be updated in the home, but would actually have meant replacing the circuit board for a new one. What a load of misleading rubbish that turned out to be! I only got that truth out of them after I pestered them for some time.
 
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