dogboy44
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No wonder they are so clean
the cycle takes 2 1/2 hours! I thought our bosch was bad at 1 3/4
the cycle takes 2 1/2 hours! I thought our bosch was bad at 1 3/4
Miele Dishwashers
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professional fresh water DW
in the US is available the G7856. Shortest wash cycle takes ten minutes (208/240 V , single phase 2x30 A)
These professional DW can have a variety of different lower/upper racks depending on your needs
Anyway the cheapest solution is made by two BOL domestic Inspiras or a MOL Diamante + a BOL Inspira
http://www.professionaldishwashing.com/model/dishwashers_19.html
in the US is available the G7856. Shortest wash cycle takes ten minutes (208/240 V , single phase 2x30 A)
These professional DW can have a variety of different lower/upper racks depending on your needs
Anyway the cheapest solution is made by two BOL domestic Inspiras or a MOL Diamante + a BOL Inspira
http://www.professionaldishwashing.com/model/dishwashers_19.html
Turbo - VarioSpeed - SpeedMatic
Dogboy, latest Bosch/Siemens have the VarioSpeed/SpeedMatic option to reduce up to 50% washing times.
The very same thing is called by Miele as Turbo.
This option can be selected in normal/sensor/pots'n'pan/eco cycles, so these endless cycles are reduced to a more reasonable 70 mins
The 2 models i've just posted take less than 40 min to run the longest cycle ... but are Energy Dust compliant ;-)
Dogboy, latest Bosch/Siemens have the VarioSpeed/SpeedMatic option to reduce up to 50% washing times.
The very same thing is called by Miele as Turbo.
This option can be selected in normal/sensor/pots'n'pan/eco cycles, so these endless cycles are reduced to a more reasonable 70 mins
The 2 models i've just posted take less than 40 min to run the longest cycle ... but are Energy Dust compliant ;-)
VarioSpeed is great.
I just ran a load in our Siemens: autoWash 131 - 149°F with VarioSpeed, 1/2 Load option and Sanitize. The dishwasher ran through a wash, a hot rinse, the sani-rinse and the drying cycle in just 71 minutes. And it was actually a full load - just used the 1/2 Load option to make it even faster.
I just ran a load in our Siemens: autoWash 131 - 149°F with VarioSpeed, 1/2 Load option and Sanitize. The dishwasher ran through a wash, a hot rinse, the sani-rinse and the drying cycle in just 71 minutes. And it was actually a full load - just used the 1/2 Load option to make it even faster.
mrcleanjeans
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Pardon this question,didn't Miele produce the concentration camp ovens? This has always bothered me,but I'd like clarity on the issue. Thanks.
concentration camp oven
The ovens used in Nazi Concentration camps to destroy dead bodies.
The ovens used in Nazi Concentration camps to destroy dead bodies.
launderess
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Topf and Sons built the cremation ovens at Buchenwald and Auschwitz.
lavamat_jon
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Pardon this question,didn't Miele produce the concentrat
What relevance does this have?
This is a dishwasher thread... please do not try and degrade the subject. Many companies in Nazi Germany were forced to do what the Nazi's want to or face being put in the camps themselves... what other option would you have?
Let sleeping dogs lie and let's get back to dishwashers...
What relevance does this have?
This is a dishwasher thread... please do not try and degrade the subject. Many companies in Nazi Germany were forced to do what the Nazi's want to or face being put in the camps themselves... what other option would you have?
Let sleeping dogs lie and let's get back to dishwashers...
mrcleanjeans
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But those dishwashers are made by Miele, therefore the question is a legitimate one. I'm not excusing or accusing, just asking about it. Thanks for the answers people.
I never heard such a thing! I hope they have nothing to do with those ovens. History tells Miele founders created a place where workers loved to stay and many other facilities for them but who knows? War times were very hard times...
askomiele
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Oké miele during war-time
produced untill halfway 1940'ties the 'normal' products like washer, mangles, but also stairs and even bikes... Then they where forced to change to war-time products like small stoves to steam food for the animals,manly potatoes (untill 1941), and handchariots for the military and civilmarket, but also pieces for planes (due to their know-how in wood and metalconstructions).
Besides all that, what is the shortest program on your miele dishwasher? Mine is Normal 50°C = 70 min but everything is spotless!
produced untill halfway 1940'ties the 'normal' products like washer, mangles, but also stairs and even bikes... Then they where forced to change to war-time products like small stoves to steam food for the animals,manly potatoes (untill 1941), and handchariots for the military and civilmarket, but also pieces for planes (due to their know-how in wood and metalconstructions).
Besides all that, what is the shortest program on your miele dishwasher? Mine is Normal 50°C = 70 min but everything is spotless!
Shortest Program
On my Miele is "Express" at 36 minutes. Haven't used it yet to wash any dishes but did run it once last week when I spilled rinse aid all over the door.
Chris
On my Miele is "Express" at 36 minutes. Haven't used it yet to wash any dishes but did run it once last week when I spilled rinse aid all over the door.
Chris
dogboy44
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yes we have the cycle reducer "opti-saver"
on the bosch it goes from 108 min down to 71 and I do use it, but if it is a really full load (Bob) it needs the full time.
on the bosch it goes from 108 min down to 71 and I do use it, but if it is a really full load (Bob) it needs the full time.
My bottom of the line Miele ...
Hey guys -- new here --- dropped in for a long time to admire your collections and knowledge. Decided it was time to be counted ... My Miele started life two houses ago and was white control panel with wood front ... I bought new house with new KitchenAid Superba (Whirlpool/KitchenAid == garbage) After 1 week I went back to the old house swapped out the old Miele for new KitchenAid ... then called Miele and found out I could buy new stainless steel control panel as well as new front panel ... bingo! new looking machine for $350. Miele said they build the machines to last 30 years so ALL appearace items can be changed out ... If I wasn't already sold, I called service recently and the tech in New Jersey was able to run a full chekout of my machine in Palm Springs CA over the phone and we determined that: a. The inflow filter was clogged or b. The fill sensor needed replacement. (It was 'a' and repaired in 15 minutes). Amazing -- I would never buy anything else ... by the way have no problems with my wine glasses (basic Williams-Sonoma 9" tall) besides Miele offers more racks and accessories than Kirby has attachments! lol ....
By the way .... It was Krups that built the 'ovens' in WWII - so I guess you throw away your coffee pot and keep the DW....
Hey guys -- new here --- dropped in for a long time to admire your collections and knowledge. Decided it was time to be counted ... My Miele started life two houses ago and was white control panel with wood front ... I bought new house with new KitchenAid Superba (Whirlpool/KitchenAid == garbage) After 1 week I went back to the old house swapped out the old Miele for new KitchenAid ... then called Miele and found out I could buy new stainless steel control panel as well as new front panel ... bingo! new looking machine for $350. Miele said they build the machines to last 30 years so ALL appearace items can be changed out ... If I wasn't already sold, I called service recently and the tech in New Jersey was able to run a full chekout of my machine in Palm Springs CA over the phone and we determined that: a. The inflow filter was clogged or b. The fill sensor needed replacement. (It was 'a' and repaired in 15 minutes). Amazing -- I would never buy anything else ... by the way have no problems with my wine glasses (basic Williams-Sonoma 9" tall) besides Miele offers more racks and accessories than Kirby has attachments! lol ....
By the way .... It was Krups that built the 'ovens' in WWII - so I guess you throw away your coffee pot and keep the DW....
mrcleanjeans
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Good to know Greg. Thanks. Wouldn't buy Krups anyway, overpriced for what you get.
rayjay
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I guess we are pretty lucky in NJ. WE have the showroom in Princeton, and can get any Miele appliance quickly. Although, I believe NY is the same.
Gregory, That was quite impressive that the tech was able to do over the phone. I know in our area that a tech can come out to your home for this.
Gregory, That was quite impressive that the tech was able to do over the phone. I know in our area that a tech can come out to your home for this.
I have the immediate predecessor (2005) to the "LaPerla", the G898SCI "Premiere Plus". Back in 2006, it retailed for $2,395, but I purchased a end-of-model-year floor model for $1,295. It's been nothing but wonderful. It's needed one repair which was handled under warranty. It does seem to clean better with Miele tablets, than some powders. The gel detergents make the unit create foam excessively it seems, so I avoid those.
I fully expect to get 20 years out of this unit!
I fully expect to get 20 years out of this unit!
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