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Nice!!!

Malcolm,

Snap some underside photos of her motor and underside goods if you can ;-)

Jealous!

Andrew
 
Installation

I plan to complete the installation myself.

The underside of the machine is completely sealed. The is nothing exposed for pix. Even the hose connections and electrical are preinstalled.
 
Home Depot

Got to make another run to Home Depot. I need to build up the interior of the cabinet a bit so the machine can be properly anchored.

Andrew - Have fun at the Wash-in-a-thon! Wish I could have made it. I was supposed to be doing a system upgrade this weekend, but it got postponed at the last minute.

Malcolm
 
Congrats Malcom

"The underside of the machine is completely sealed. The is nothing exposed for pix. Even the hose connections and electrical are preinstalled"

So are you meaning that your "old" Bosch is not like that ??

Also ... what about the sump in that Bosch ? stainless or plastic ?

Can't wait to see your new baby in her place for the 1st load :)
 
Miele Is In...

The Miele has been installed. I had to run out an buy some salt. You would think Miele would package a starter salt / rinse aid / detergent in these machines. Sheesh! In any case, here is a pic of the new machine in its first wash without dishes. Camera phone is not the greatest...

I will say that the DIY install of the Bosch was a lot easier than the Miele.

Malcolm

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Malcolm: cool, congratulations and good job on the install!

Out of curiosity, what did you need to do to the cabinet to install the Miele? And why are you replacing the Bosch? Also, not all places need the salt, the machine will ask for it, but you can skip it if your water hardness is under 4 grains/gallon, I think.

Either way, it's a beautiful machine and I hope you enjoy it in good health!
 
Machine Operation

Well, I have only done one load of dishes in the machine. Can't much quieter than this thing. The Bosch was rated at 44db and the Miele is quieter.

As for cabinet modification, I had to add some wood blocks to the underside of the counter in order to secure the machine in position. Quite easy, but requiring another trip to the Home Depot was aggravating.

I will take an interior pic and upload it tomorrow afternoon.

The Bosch was damaged when delivered it and the retailer would not replace it because it was a SPECIAL ORDER to get the machine in BLACK! It was such an awful purchasing experience, I wanted to get that thing out of my house as soon as possible.

HHGREGG can kiss my ASS! There, I said it.

Malcolm
 
Mounting

There are 2 ways to mount the dishwasher...up on top like you did or on the sides like I had to because of the granite countertops that we have. The plugs that cover the screw holes on on the side of the door opening make it very easy to secure the machine. The instructions dont say a whole lot since its a pictogram showing one what to do.
As far as salt goes..use it. In the manual for your machine it will tell you how to properly set it for the salt. Mine does the adjusting automatically and all I do is add the salt. I find that with the new phosphate free detergents that we have here in Mass like Cascade do a much better job if the water is already softened.
Very nice machine I have to say and like I always say...once you go Miele you never go back.
 
Cabinet Opening

Yeah. I was unable to mount the machine from the sides as the cabinet opening is almost an inch wider than the machine. Eventually, I my find some one-by stock and fill in the gap. But it really isn't that big of a deal to me. There certainly isn't a noise issue arising from it.

Yes, salt has been added. After the first cycle without dishes was completed, I went in to look at the water hardness setting and it reported that it was detected at 3. The default, according to the manual, should be 15. So, I don't think I will need to be refilling the salt container for a while.

I will say that having to custom cut the kick plate is something I didn't expect to have to do. I'll take care of that one evening this week.

Malcolm

Now keep me away from the Miele laundry machines...
 
Pics of the first load Please!!

Hey Malcolm. Pics of the interior and first load please. lol

Last week I tried another dishwaher detergent, SOMAT Tabs and also the Rinse Aid. I have not filled the rinse aid yet in that it is still full. But....the Somat Tabs are rally great. I got them through Amazon.com

You also have to try either the Somat rinse aid or the Miele rinse aid. The Miele rinse aid is REALLY GREAT. The load comes out pretty dry. The plastics come out dry and without spots too. I think you can order the MIele rinse aid on line if you cannot get it locally.

I also tried the Miele Dishwasher tabs last year, and they were also great.

Ray
 
Congratulation Malcolm!

I'm green with envy. Can't wait to see pictures (or even videos) of the interior and it's features. Makes me want to "dish" out my old dishwasher
John
 
Miele W&D

Well, I don't really see changing the SQ's for Miele's for a year or two. Although, I do have someone that would be happy to take them if I ever decide to make the switch.

The Miele Vac dealership I went to on Saturday for the salt "Somat Brand" had all of the Miele products on hand. I may end up back there in the future to purchase a Miele vacuum cleaner. Who knows...

First load is done and put away. Sorry, no pix of that. Gradually loading for run number two. It may happen this evening. First load was done on Sensor Wash program. It started with a pre-rinse which switched to main wash without a water change. Guess it didn't need one. Then drained and did a single rinse, I think. I don't remember hearing it pump out again. Anyway, the entire wash/dry program was less than 90 minutes. Everything was bone dry at the end of the run. Except for a couple of beer mugs that usually hold a couple tablespoons of water anyway.

All in all, I am pretty happy with it. Much nicer than the Bosch. And the Bosch with the cutlery tray would have been about the same price, but not as well built.

Malcolm
 

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