frapdoodle
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Can you import these machines? Ifso how much would it cost?
I really adore these machines and I wish to have one
I really adore these machines and I wish to have one
Miele Top Loading Washer
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I guess you are talking about the h-axis machines because I am not aware that Miele make any other TL? If so, you and me both!!! They occasionally appear here on Ebay and I always go after it but it seems that they are coveted by many and are over my budget!!
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well i wanted to get one off the site. But I live in the states so i would have tyo have it imported.......
Unless You Can Find Someone Willing To Ship To The USA
That is a private owner, then the answer is no; Miele Europe does not sell those washers on this side of the pond.
Even if you did manage to nab one, you would need 220v/50hz power from one line, not the two 120v which normally make up USA 220v power. Then there is the fact that the unit's computer controls and so forth would be off because of the difference in frequency (50hz vs 60hz)
That is a private owner, then the answer is no; Miele Europe does not sell those washers on this side of the pond.
Even if you did manage to nab one, you would need 220v/50hz power from one line, not the two 120v which normally make up USA 220v power. Then there is the fact that the unit's computer controls and so forth would be off because of the difference in frequency (50hz vs 60hz)
Two 120 V lines should work. We had that in Amsterdam (actually two 127V lines). All European 230 V equipment will work with that. The frequency difference is another matter. The life span of motors, transformers etc. can be negatively affected as they will run hotter. Induction motors will also run faster. Electronic components that use rectified current are not affected.
According to my appliance repair guy the Miele toploaders are not as desirable as the frontloaders. According to him there is a design flaw in the lock of the inner drum. In a few cases the drum was unlocked spontaniously destructing the whole machine. Again according to him Miele doesn't want to acknowledge this design flaw.
If you're interested in a European toploader and it doesn't have to be a Miele perhaps an AEG could do? Euro-line appliances sells AEG appliances in Canada. You could ask them if they can import a toploader for you.
If you're interested in a European toploader and it doesn't have to be a Miele perhaps an AEG could do? Euro-line appliances sells AEG appliances in Canada. You could ask them if they can import a toploader for you.
A.E.G.-Electrolux
Chance, don't expect current AEG washers so tank built as the vintage ones were ..... check on the Searchalator, some of the Brit guys had a disappointing experience with a TOL frontloader (poor built shock adsorbers in a 1800 rpm machine)
Current AEG toploaders are produced by Zanussi-Electrolux, just have some different bell & whistle ... but the very same parts. In particular the two parts of the drum that act also as lids are made of plastic. Well they call it Carboran (polycarbonate) but that's no matter plastic. IMHO they are rather scary
Chance, don't expect current AEG washers so tank built as the vintage ones were ..... check on the Searchalator, some of the Brit guys had a disappointing experience with a TOL frontloader (poor built shock adsorbers in a 1800 rpm machine)
Current AEG toploaders are produced by Zanussi-Electrolux, just have some different bell & whistle ... but the very same parts. In particular the two parts of the drum that act also as lids are made of plastic. Well they call it Carboran (polycarbonate) but that's no matter plastic. IMHO they are rather scary
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Actually I don't know for sure but I had the impression he was talking about both. Are the latch of the old model and the new model perhaps the same?
Can't Be Sure
But think awhile ago Miele switched all it's top loading H-Axis washing machines with a single lid/inner tub opening. That is one simply opens the lid and the latch along with the door to the tub opens as well. Could all be one piece for all I know.
Anywho methinks this was done to over come some objections in the consumer population to the various lid-latch-inner tub door thing. Some of the older style pinch in latches can be hard to open for those whom are elderly or have difficulty using their hands.
But think awhile ago Miele switched all it's top loading H-Axis washing machines with a single lid/inner tub opening. That is one simply opens the lid and the latch along with the door to the tub opens as well. Could all be one piece for all I know.
Anywho methinks this was done to over come some objections in the consumer population to the various lid-latch-inner tub door thing. Some of the older style pinch in latches can be hard to open for those whom are elderly or have difficulty using their hands.
As For Importing A Washer From The EU To The US
Unless you know someone moving house and has space in their crates, I shouldn't bother, as it will probably cost equal or more than the new washer, especially should the unit come out of Germany.
Much of the EU postal/shipping companies have very high rates, especially if one starts going over say 20kg or 30kg, and or certian heights/weights. Much if not 99% of international shipping is done via air, so you can understand the costs. There are places that do ship large/bulky items (some Americans have been known to order BMWs or Mercedes-Benz cars that aren't available on these shores, or custom parts from Germany and have them shipped stateside), but if one is paying that kind of money, then another huge chunk for shipping via rail/land to a port, the via ship, etc isn't a huge deal.
Many of the above companies work on a container basis, so if your item does not fill one, it could be held or mixed with other items to make a full load. Then consider you will need an exporter to get the thing out of the EU, then an importer to take care of the paperwork on this side of the pond. Things such as taxes, duties and so forth must be paid before the item can leave, and when it arrives on US shores.
Miele North America of course purchases enough no to worry about these things, but have a hunch it would be dear for the average person.
Again,it might be eaiser to try and find someone perhaps in the military stationed in Germany or someplace in Europe who is willing to bring back a unit when they move house.
When you see European appliances on USA eBay or such that were never sold in here, such as my Pfaff ironer, most always they came when someone moved house from the old country and brought the things with them. Granted depending upon when they came, travel by ship was the common route across the Atlantic, so bringing a house full of stuff wasn't nearly as dear as today.
Unless you know someone moving house and has space in their crates, I shouldn't bother, as it will probably cost equal or more than the new washer, especially should the unit come out of Germany.
Much of the EU postal/shipping companies have very high rates, especially if one starts going over say 20kg or 30kg, and or certian heights/weights. Much if not 99% of international shipping is done via air, so you can understand the costs. There are places that do ship large/bulky items (some Americans have been known to order BMWs or Mercedes-Benz cars that aren't available on these shores, or custom parts from Germany and have them shipped stateside), but if one is paying that kind of money, then another huge chunk for shipping via rail/land to a port, the via ship, etc isn't a huge deal.
Many of the above companies work on a container basis, so if your item does not fill one, it could be held or mixed with other items to make a full load. Then consider you will need an exporter to get the thing out of the EU, then an importer to take care of the paperwork on this side of the pond. Things such as taxes, duties and so forth must be paid before the item can leave, and when it arrives on US shores.
Miele North America of course purchases enough no to worry about these things, but have a hunch it would be dear for the average person.
Again,it might be eaiser to try and find someone perhaps in the military stationed in Germany or someplace in Europe who is willing to bring back a unit when they move house.
When you see European appliances on USA eBay or such that were never sold in here, such as my Pfaff ironer, most always they came when someone moved house from the old country and brought the things with them. Granted depending upon when they came, travel by ship was the common route across the Atlantic, so bringing a house full of stuff wasn't nearly as dear as today.
H-Axis Toploaders
Launderess,
they made a different thing : the self-targeting drum and the self opening outer tub lid
With old euro toploaders one had to manually turn the drum to get to the two drum lids, it was a pain when washing towels and bathgowns. Miele first made a toploader that was able to automatically stop the two drum lids facing the outer tub lid. Almost every brand today has this feature.
True that the drum lids springs still are rather hard, expecially for elder people
Also many manufacturers reintroduced the outer tub lid to enhance acoustic insulation ( that one with the yellow handle in the next Miele)
It seems rather strange Miele is still having troubles with toploaders opening, as it the same design of their side loaders/ barrier washers
Launderess,
they made a different thing : the self-targeting drum and the self opening outer tub lid
With old euro toploaders one had to manually turn the drum to get to the two drum lids, it was a pain when washing towels and bathgowns. Miele first made a toploader that was able to automatically stop the two drum lids facing the outer tub lid. Almost every brand today has this feature.
True that the drum lids springs still are rather hard, expecially for elder people
Also many manufacturers reintroduced the outer tub lid to enhance acoustic insulation ( that one with the yellow handle in the next Miele)
It seems rather strange Miele is still having troubles with toploaders opening, as it the same design of their side loaders/ barrier washers
