Miele W1926 washer & T1526 dryer I just bought

[revvinkevin]

 

 

After my honey and I stopped at an open house, we drove past a yard sale with this Miele washer & dryer sitting at the curb.   After slowing down to look I drove on, but then turned around and went back to inquire.  

 

The guy said he got them from a neighbor down the street and she said they worked.  This guy even told me "if they don't work, I'll give you your money back" sounds like a win-win to me.  So after going to Costco, then moving a couple things in front of the truck, fired it up and went back to the yard sale to see if they were still there.   Obviously, they were and I brought them home.  The best part (the real reason I bought them) I got both for just $45!  Following up with the guys "money back' promise, he gave me both his phone numbers.

 

OK, yes they are both 208 / 240 and they have a 4 prong plug.  I have the power, but only a 3 prong outlet.  The question is, how can I rewire them to work with the 3 prong outlets I have?  I believe the  4th wire is a ground, are the other 3 wires the same as regular 220V wiring for a dryer?

 

Also, any idea how old they might be?  Once I get them powered up I'll have access to the model/serial tags, which I'm sure are behind the doors.

 

Any thoughts, info or suggestions would be appreciated!

 

Thanks!

Kevin

 

[launderess]

Hello Luv!

Good to see a post from you Kevin!

Sudsmaster has the same "three wire" plug on his Miele units, so maybe shoot him a message.

Miele wiring

I am the new owner of a pair of vintage Miele's and am hoping someone can lead me in the right direction. I have a 1065 washer and T372 dryer, but am afraid the wiring in my laundry room may not be compatible for them. I would like to hook the 1065 up to a 120v/20amp circuit if possible. Do I...

www.automaticwasher.org

 

[nmassman44]

I bought a power cord from Miele back when I bought the Mega Mieles that I have in Maine to convert the 4 prong power cord to 3 so the dryer can work. I wonder with this set if the washer can plug into the dryer and then the dryer into the outlet.

 

[launderess]

No, To the best of one's knowledge

Miele never did that whole piggy back to dryer thing, at least not from the North American laundry appliances one has ever seen.

Rather Miele did sell a outlet box that one could plug both the washer and dryer into, then plug the box into wall. A big (and expensive) splitter box really.

Cannot tell which model of the 1900 series Kevin nabbed; but here is the owners manual to the 1986.
http://m.miele.ca/OperatingInstruct...models/Miele Washing machine Manual W1986.pdf

All manuals for the 1900 series washers and their matching dryers should still be easily found on MieleUSA's website.

 

[revvinkevin]

Thank you SO much!

 

 

Thank you for the info and the thread link Launderess!   I'm going to tackle rewiring the washer and maybe the dryer tomorrow.

 

I was able to download the operation manuals for the washer & dryer, thank you!

 

The specific models are W1926 washer and T1526 vented dryer.

 

I'll report back more tomorrow.

 

Kevin

 

[launderess]

Just so you know

Off the bat this washer must have both water hoses connected (hot and cold) even if you intend to use it as a cold fill machine. Just so you can get a "Y" adapter while out for anything else before install begins.

1900 series are probably some of the best washers Miele sent to the USA. True workhorses but also very flexible in terms of user friendly.

 

[askolover]

I actually have a copy of the "technical information" manual for this machine.  I'll try to find the link to the site where I downloaded it.  I love my 1986.  It truly is a remarkable machine, even more so than the Asko.

 

[askolover]

that was fast

Found it,

https://applianceassistant.com/ServiceManuals/w1900_series_miele_clothes_washers.pdf

 

it covers the whole 1900 lineup including the 1926 and 1986.  It was very helpful for setting mine up.  There are settings in the 1986 that the USA manual did not include, but some of the manuals for other countries did, such as cold fill only vs. hot and cold hookup, water level adjustments and so on.  I don't know if the 1926 has these capabilities or not though.   I got my information from eddy1210.  The 1926 weighs as much and holds as much as my 1986 does...they are HEAVY beasts!

 

[bajaespuma]

Aferim! I love my Miele.

Using a Miele will spoil you; it handles laundry like a scientist.

 

Does the "RAPID WASH" option button work on all of the cycles? If so, that's a great improvement. Does anyone know the specifics of how it works.

 

[askolover]

Also found the user manual specifically for the 1926 here

MIELE NOVOTRONIC W 1926 OPERATING INSTRUCTIONS MANUAL Pdf Download

View and Download Miele NOVOTRONIC W 1926 operating instructions manual online. Miele Washer User Manual. NOVOTRONIC W 1926 washer pdf manual download.

www.manualslib.com

 

programmable functions such as high water level and 5th rinse begin on page 22

 

[revvinkevin]

An update, they BOTH work after some tinkering

 

 

I got the washer all hooked up and started a cycle, but water started coming out of the lower front.  Turns out the pump clean out access was loose, allowing water to drain out of the pump assembly through a small hose.   An easy fix.

 

I changed it to "drain and spin" but the pump was silent.  Looked it up online and a new pump motor from Miele is nearly $200.  An "aftermarket" pump motor looks to be $86.

 

I proceeded to open the washer up and remove the pump.  I have to say I am <span style="text-decoration: underline;">really impressed</span> with the quality of this washer and assembly for easy access!  Simply remove 3 screws and 3 bolts and the entire front of the machine swings open on hinges.  As for removing the pump motor assembly, disconnect the wiring (a plug), slide a red interlock tab forward, then twist the pump motor a quarter turn and it's out, no tools or hoses to disconnect!

 

I was thinking about trying to substitute another drain pump from I removed from another (non-Miele) washer, as I discovered the pump motor is 120V.   So with the front of the washer open I pulled the pump wire out for easier access and plugged this other pump  in as the connector was identical and it worked fine.  Just for grins I plugged in the Miele pump motor again (outside the washer) and much to my surprise, it worked!  I restarted the drain cycle a few times to make sure and it spun fine each time.  So I assume there was poor contact at the pump connection.

 

I reassembled the motor into the housing and set it to drain and it worked, problem solved!  WOO HOO!

 

I ran a 180 degree cycle with 2 tablespoon of citric acid to clean it out.  It's interesting that pressing the "Rapid wash" button knocks ONE HOUR off the cycle time!  However from what I saw in the owners manual, it reduces the number of rinses from 3 (or 4?) down to 2, plus it nearly eliminates the spin between the wash-rinses.  It drained and spun at low speed for 20 or maybe 30 seconds before starting the rinse.  Only the final spin was normal speed.  

 

Another thing I found interesting is, for the first 10 minutes of the wash, the tumble speed was slow, or what I assumed was "normal".  Then the next 5 - 7 minutes, each time it changed direction it started tumbling faster at first, then slowed to the "normal speed"(?) again.  THEN... for the remainder of the wash, it was the faster tumble speed!  Rinses were the slower tumble speed and duration.

 

Boy this thing really fills up for the rinses!  Question: is the the normal rinse water level, or is this just for the "quick rinse"?

 

Also, the dryer works perfectly!  So I now have a completely functional Miele washer & vented dryer for a total investment of just $45!  WOO HOO! 

 

Kevin

 

Edit... I posted this before checking the thread for any replies.  THANK YOU Launderess, Greg, Mike and Ken for your comments and the info!

 

 

[this post was last edited: 4/17/2017-00:13]

 

[launderess]

Very well done! You are going to have a blast

With those Miele laundry appliances.

It is fairly common for persons who don't know at first to remove the drain pump "filter", then have the thing leak upon replacement. Once you get it sorted it never happens again as it is "remembered".

Yes, it is likely wiring/a connection worked its way loose during all the shifting about, thus the pump motor problems. Glad you were able to get it sorted without having to pay Miele's outrageous call out prices and or worse purchase a new pump for no reason.

Also equally yes, Miele parts aren't cheap. So get used to that sticker shock. *LOL*

Pump motor 120v: With these 120v/208v-240v Miele washers IIRC only a few things require true 208v-240v power, and that may even be limited to the heaters. Most everything else runs off 120v. Sadly the way Miele has wired these units you cannot simply just hook them up to pure 120v power. That is sad because far more would be "rescued" (well the washers anyway), if people could get round that pesky 120v/208v-240v power requirement. As you've found out it is possible to wire these washers both ways; three or four prong "dryer" plugs, but that is far as things go.

First ten minutes.....

One assumes like many European front loaders the first ten minutes are so are allotted for heating. As such the periods of tumbles are slower as the wash water is brought up to the proper temperature. On my AEG Oko-Lavamat one sees the same behavior. However once the thermostat clicks off after beign satisfied, wash drum patterns change to reflect proper rhythm for cycle chosen. The slower tumbling also allows for greater saturation of wash with water, and topping up if need be should the machine sense level has dropped.

Rapid wash:

Cycle is meant for lighly soiled clothing that one needs quickly. My AEG has a similar cycle.

Great thing about your Miele w1926 is that you can use the "Rapid" wash with all three cycles (Cottons, Permanent Press, and Delicates). You also can choose to add a pre-wash with the RW cycle. See? Total user control.....

Play around with the "Water Plus" (adds slightly more water for both wash and rinse cycles), and "Gentle Wash" for your fine danties! LOL*

The W1926 is rated for a 13kg capacity, this as opposed to the standard 11kg of the 1918. So you can fit a bit more in there.....

As for the T1526 you've got yourself a nice Miele *VENTED* dryer, which is a bit better IMHO than the condenser.

If you really want to see your Miele washer shine, get yourself some Persil powder; the stuff from Germany and do a load of whites at hot to boil wash temps. You will be amazed at the results.

 

[askolover]

I had to change the boot on mine and it was super easy!  I ordered one from England.  I had to screw my drain hose to the wall because it had so much force it jumped out of the standpipe!  My rinses always fill quite a ways up the door glass.

 

[launderess]

Rapid Wash Cycles

Find are best for small (half of rated capacity) loads that aren't very dirty. Several dress shirts, things that were only lightly worn and so forth. This an or things that want freshening after being put away for a while.

 

[foraloysius]

Small correction on the capacity, the W1926 is meant for 13lbs of laundry, not kg. The W1903 and the 1918 were rated 11lbs.

The variation in tumble speed is a sequence of different parts of the washing process. The slow tumblins (40rpm IIRC) is for wetting the laundry, than a pause for soaking and then the faster tumble speed for cleaning (55rpm).

Nice set btw, happy washing!

 

[revvinkevin]

 

 

Thank you again Launderess for all the info!   I happen to have a package of German Persil powder (don't remember which one at the moment) and I am looking forward to trying it in the Miele.  Do you have any suggestions as to what quantity to use?  I can't read the package since it's in German.

 

Louis, thank you for the info and capacity correction.  I was thinking "13 kg sounds like a lot!"  Later I read in the operation manual the capacity is 6 kg (13.2 lbs), which still seems like a lot for this little machine.  

 

I'm planning to do a load of whites and maybe a load of towels in it this weekend!

 

Kevin

 

[mayfan69]

Looking good Kevin

Nice set Kevin: I have a 1980's set in storage.

I don't know about you, but I found the washer to be HEAVY! A lot heavier than a lot of other front loader's.

Cheers
Leon

 

[askolover]

Kevin,

I also have a pack of German Persil.  I have a small round scoop that I kept from a tub of OxyClean.  That little scoop full is all I can use because with my soft water and a 190F wash it will oversuds easily.  But it does make for a very clean wash.  YMMV

 

[revvinkevin]

Update #2

 

 

I wanted to play with this washer more today, so I did a load of towels after I got home from work.  

 

3 large bath towels

2 hand towels

16 wash cloths  

 

This filled the washer right to the top of the drum when I loaded it.  

 

I ran a regular 140 degree cycle, which showed 1 hr 40 mins... pretty long and I watched pretty much the entire cycle.  Personally I think the 45 min wash time is excessive.  I was disappointed that none of the 4 rinses filled with any more water then it did for the wash.   As I was washing towels I was hoping for a deep fill well up the door glass, like the "rapid wash" did yesterday.   I never really saw much water.  I did try pressing the "water plus" a few minutes after the cycle started, but it made no difference.  I'm guessing it needs to be pressed before the cycle starts?

 

Also discovered two issues.  #1 water was dripping from the pump housing (an O-ring perhaps) and #2 I think it's pretty safe to say the shock absorbers kaput.  The first two spins after the wash, the tub banged against the cabinet each time the speed ramped up and back down again.  The remaining spins didn't bang the cabinet, but the tub moved around a helluva lot!  

 

Now the $64,000 dollar question is, do any of you know where to find replacement shocks??  I searched a number of parts websites, even some in the UK and they all list many parts, belts, pumps, motors, heater elements, entire tubs, etc, but NO shock absorbers on any parts site.  I did come across some shocks listed on fleabay and Amazon, but the washers they fit were different from mine.  Also, the Miele site is useless as it doesn't list any parts at all. 

 

Help?

 

Also, can anyone date the dryer from the model tag below?  I still have not been able to find the model tag on the washer, any ideas on where it's supposed to be?  <span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span>

 

Note on the photos: I was wearing a red shirt and it's funny the camera picked up the reflection and made the towels look pink in the photo w/o the flash.  

 

Thanks much in advance!

Kevin