Milnor Washers
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For several years, I worked in a Nursing Home. They had Milnor washers. Two 90-pounders that were from the early 90's. They had a 125 pounder that they replaced several times. They went through 3 in a matter of 10 years. They tried replacing it with other models, but one was set up for maintenance, and was determined to be dangerous. So, it was replaced with another brand (of which I cannot remember). It pooped out after 2 years, and was finally replaced with a Milnor. And then they had a really old, used 30 pound washer, a new Heubush (Speed Queen) front loader that was really a household. And then finally a DD Kenmore TL..that was only used for sweaters, and personals. I actually loved the 90 pound washers more than the others. They were programmed and you entered a 2-digit code to run the formula. 21 was Isolation, 22 was Delicates, 23 was Pads and Bibs, and all the others from personals to sheets, to towels to bedspreads. All in all, 10 pre-programmed formulas. Everything was sorted, and weighed on huge scales. They had a minimum weight that had to be made for every machine. They actually loaded under suggested weight. Certain loads could weigh more than others, etc. All wash levels, times, extracts, additive points, etc were all preprogrammed. Interestingly enough, the older Milnors used higher water levels. Level 2 on the older Milnors were higher than those on the newer one. Amazing washers though...loved to just watch them. The older ones extracted at 700 rpm, and with warm rinses on every program, they came out pretty dry. I would love to work in a laundry, but the pay for a general worker sucks. And it is HARD work. Loading and unloading huge washers is really man's work. There were 4 girls that worked in there, and when I was able to volunteer, I did the loading and unloading. Hard work, but I loved every second. While we folded, you had a direct view of the washers. Heaven. 
Just my experiences and thought I would share. I could yap about this shit alllll day.
Just my experiences and thought I would share. I could yap about this shit alllll day.sudsman...
I admit, I am biased…I sell Milnor. My opinions on Milnor’s wash quality in general however are, in the industry, accepted, founded and I stand by them for opinion sake. Everyone has a right, after all.
I have followed your posts on this site for some time and your experience in the industry is clear, deliberate and founded and I respect it. I must say that I am more than surprised and somewhat shocked that any laundry manager or washman with your years of experience would ever say that ANY split pocket laundry washer of any brand or manufacture, Milnor included, would out wash an open pocket washer. Or, to clarify, were you referring to a Milnor divided cylinder washer to that of one by Dynawash?
I am unfamiliar with the era of the machine pictured. Does this machine include an Ozone generator or is that reserved to machines carrying the Edro-Dynawash nomenclature?
I admit, I am biased…I sell Milnor. My opinions on Milnor’s wash quality in general however are, in the industry, accepted, founded and I stand by them for opinion sake. Everyone has a right, after all.
I have followed your posts on this site for some time and your experience in the industry is clear, deliberate and founded and I respect it. I must say that I am more than surprised and somewhat shocked that any laundry manager or washman with your years of experience would ever say that ANY split pocket laundry washer of any brand or manufacture, Milnor included, would out wash an open pocket washer. Or, to clarify, were you referring to a Milnor divided cylinder washer to that of one by Dynawash?
I am unfamiliar with the era of the machine pictured. Does this machine include an Ozone generator or is that reserved to machines carrying the Edro-Dynawash nomenclature?
trok99
If you sell Milnor you should be Quite familar with other makes of washer/extractors I suggest you Check out Edro Dyna wash and C for yourself.. The machine will out wash anything I have ever seen in 50 + years in the laundry. Open pocket or divided pocket. It is not a ozone machine which I have talked to a number of Laundry Managers over the past few years and have yet to talk to anyone of them that has had a ozone system that worked properly for more than a year or two at the most. do know where there are many not in operation. I have had Milnors 135 and 200 lbs split pocket machine and being the good heavy duty machines they are however neither would do a good wash job and the ribs almost non exist. American and Troy both had split pocket machines that did beautiful work too. So does Braun .. I suggest you ask or better yet visit some plants that have them.. I am sure you will even be more suprised and shocked! Granted Milnors are good machines. However like all the rest now they ARE NOT the good machine they were 10 or 15 years ago. When they Dropped the 60 Self Balance and the 75 hi speed and changed to the new design they lost a lot of respect from many laundry managers. I being one of them . The Qwe and Swe models were some of the best they ever had. In his area Milnor handles the service for Chicago flatwork and I have them here almost monthly. They far exceed expetations for most of us in this area on service of their machines and Chicago Flatwork. Are you a memeber of the local Chapter of ALM? We have contact with laundry managers world wide thru some of their programs. I am sure you would enjoy chatting with other laundry managers in your area.
If you sell Milnor you should be Quite familar with other makes of washer/extractors I suggest you Check out Edro Dyna wash and C for yourself.. The machine will out wash anything I have ever seen in 50 + years in the laundry. Open pocket or divided pocket. It is not a ozone machine which I have talked to a number of Laundry Managers over the past few years and have yet to talk to anyone of them that has had a ozone system that worked properly for more than a year or two at the most. do know where there are many not in operation. I have had Milnors 135 and 200 lbs split pocket machine and being the good heavy duty machines they are however neither would do a good wash job and the ribs almost non exist. American and Troy both had split pocket machines that did beautiful work too. So does Braun .. I suggest you ask or better yet visit some plants that have them.. I am sure you will even be more suprised and shocked! Granted Milnors are good machines. However like all the rest now they ARE NOT the good machine they were 10 or 15 years ago. When they Dropped the 60 Self Balance and the 75 hi speed and changed to the new design they lost a lot of respect from many laundry managers. I being one of them . The Qwe and Swe models were some of the best they ever had. In his area Milnor handles the service for Chicago flatwork and I have them here almost monthly. They far exceed expetations for most of us in this area on service of their machines and Chicago Flatwork. Are you a memeber of the local Chapter of ALM? We have contact with laundry managers world wide thru some of their programs. I am sure you would enjoy chatting with other laundry managers in your area.
sudsman
I am Quite familiar with all of the competition I sell against, thank you. That machinery would be of, Braun, Ellis, Lavatec, Girbau and small machines from Alliance and Wascomat. In this part of the country, Edro Dynawash, Brim, Ramco, Sailstar and Washex have no presence whatsoever. They simply do not exist and therefore I was asking you, for your experience. At the Clean show, you cannot go to the Edro booth without being bombarded by their ozone technology. You are not alone with your feelings on Ozone. An ozone system that is not monitored, recalibrated and tested is doomed to fail. Milnor still produces and sells tons of the 200lb split pocket, the 450lb and 700lb rapid load hydro-cushion machines that laundry managers swear by and produce beautiful work. I visit commercial laundry plants on a weekly basis. I am a member of ALM and I do enjoy chatting with laundry managers throughout my state. If I was to follow your suggestion to visit a plant that had the machinery you referred to, I would have to travel far beyond my state border. In my experience the end user has always been surprised and shocked at how much better an open pocket washer washes, compared to a split pocket of any brand or manufacture, as I said. I know a laundry manager that makes the same comments as you regarding Troy split pockets but as they have been out of business for 30 years so, what’s the point? The 60lb BALCOM machine made its mark in the industry when it came to small machines with super extraction capabilities, that is for sure. There are many that are 30 plus years old and still in operation. With the machines I mentioned above, besides no longer having multiple motors, they are basically the same machines they were 30 years ago, very little has changed. The QWE and SWE were excellent machines. Apart from having a single motor, inverter and an electric drain versus and air operated one, those machines are available today from Milnor. My opinions are formed by my experience, a lot of that experience has been listening to laundry managers. In this area, laundry managers seem to uphold and agree with Milnors reputation for unsurpassed wash quality and that the machines outlast anything else on the market. Milnor and Chicago have always maintained a very close relationship in the industry.
I am Quite familiar with all of the competition I sell against, thank you. That machinery would be of, Braun, Ellis, Lavatec, Girbau and small machines from Alliance and Wascomat. In this part of the country, Edro Dynawash, Brim, Ramco, Sailstar and Washex have no presence whatsoever. They simply do not exist and therefore I was asking you, for your experience. At the Clean show, you cannot go to the Edro booth without being bombarded by their ozone technology. You are not alone with your feelings on Ozone. An ozone system that is not monitored, recalibrated and tested is doomed to fail. Milnor still produces and sells tons of the 200lb split pocket, the 450lb and 700lb rapid load hydro-cushion machines that laundry managers swear by and produce beautiful work. I visit commercial laundry plants on a weekly basis. I am a member of ALM and I do enjoy chatting with laundry managers throughout my state. If I was to follow your suggestion to visit a plant that had the machinery you referred to, I would have to travel far beyond my state border. In my experience the end user has always been surprised and shocked at how much better an open pocket washer washes, compared to a split pocket of any brand or manufacture, as I said. I know a laundry manager that makes the same comments as you regarding Troy split pockets but as they have been out of business for 30 years so, what’s the point? The 60lb BALCOM machine made its mark in the industry when it came to small machines with super extraction capabilities, that is for sure. There are many that are 30 plus years old and still in operation. With the machines I mentioned above, besides no longer having multiple motors, they are basically the same machines they were 30 years ago, very little has changed. The QWE and SWE were excellent machines. Apart from having a single motor, inverter and an electric drain versus and air operated one, those machines are available today from Milnor. My opinions are formed by my experience, a lot of that experience has been listening to laundry managers. In this area, laundry managers seem to uphold and agree with Milnors reputation for unsurpassed wash quality and that the machines outlast anything else on the market. Milnor and Chicago have always maintained a very close relationship in the industry.
Trok99 sorry you took such execption
Did not mean it that way at all...
But still stand by the fact the 135 and 200 lb models will not do a good wash job on heavy soil. The 450 and 600 are totally different machines and do wash any load quite well.But I do assure you this model Edro does a wash job equal to none. I do also know that they have other models open pocket included that do a awful wash job. and 2 of those models are ozone machines. The service they offer at least in this area is some of the worst there is. and have had distributors drop the line several times. beacuse of parts problems. As Far as Washex that is also a totally different machine. and am told days are numbered for them. The point on Troy is that there are still some of the old machines in operation in this area after 35 to 40 years so Milnor is not the only mfg. that can claim longtivity. Although one of the older mfgs. still around. Personally the Balcom was one of my favroite machines.. Did you Know Bill Lohamnn with ReNu Machinery in Dallas.. A dear friend for many years and one of the betters dealers in the area for decades. enjoying this. Bringing back many memories thanks..
Did not mean it that way at all...
But still stand by the fact the 135 and 200 lb models will not do a good wash job on heavy soil. The 450 and 600 are totally different machines and do wash any load quite well.But I do assure you this model Edro does a wash job equal to none. I do also know that they have other models open pocket included that do a awful wash job. and 2 of those models are ozone machines. The service they offer at least in this area is some of the worst there is. and have had distributors drop the line several times. beacuse of parts problems. As Far as Washex that is also a totally different machine. and am told days are numbered for them. The point on Troy is that there are still some of the old machines in operation in this area after 35 to 40 years so Milnor is not the only mfg. that can claim longtivity. Although one of the older mfgs. still around. Personally the Balcom was one of my favroite machines.. Did you Know Bill Lohamnn with ReNu Machinery in Dallas.. A dear friend for many years and one of the betters dealers in the area for decades. enjoying this. Bringing back many memories thanks..
