That should be ok.
Just stay away from becomg a pipe man.
Just stay away from becomg a pipe man.
Modern compact/portable washers
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bpetersxx
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whirlcool
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But what does it look like
out of the box????
out of the box????
bpetersxx
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I goofed and didnt get pictures of the 3 yellow straps around the box
Cut and remove them and lift the top of the box off
Cut and remove them and lift the top of the box off
bpetersxx
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u get this
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Sound proofing
Haier China models call this a rat trap or something like that
is this called rat proofing in Britain and in Australia
Had to go to arrrooohhh's profile to spell Arrrooohhh and Australia
Haier China models call this a rat trap or something like that
is this called rat proofing in Britain and in Australia
Had to go to arrrooohhh's profile to spell Arrrooohhh and Australia
bpetersxx
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these were in the tub
Quick connector like is used on DW
Instruction manual
2 hoses to hook it up
4 castors
Quick connector like is used on DW
Instruction manual
2 hoses to hook it up
4 castors
bpetersxx
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agitator
tub looks similar to my Haier waterfall washer
tub looks similar to my Haier waterfall washer
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Designgeek
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Oh cool! I've always wanted to see pics of that one up close.
Notice the Energy Guide label for the Danby top loader. The little arrow is just off the charts to the left, which means maximum efficiency for its size.
Yes, that dark gray panel that's sitting on top is called a mouse-proof or a rat-proof in the Asian markets. Presumably because in the rural areas in those climates, mousies are known to make their nests in the workings of washers. For the USA market it's a noise-proof because no one in the US admits to having mice
In Australia what you have to worry about is venomous snakes and spiders, which are so lethal they make ours look like cuddly pets, but somehow I don't think manufacturers want to call that panel a snake-proof down there.
Optional swivel casters. Hmm! I wonder if they have locks or stops. On the twin tub the casters are built-in and non-swivel but it's still easy enough to move the machine around the kitchen. It would make sense to have non-swivel casters on a conventional TL because the axis of spin is symmetrical with the cabinet, and so it's more likely to scoot around the floor. In any case you do have to level the machine before using it, and might have to adjust the leveling if you don't use it in the same place each time. Also on the twin tub there's no need for leveling because the fill level is controlled manually from the faucet and the spinner is not symmetrical with the cabinet in both directions.
The agitator is almost identical to that on the twin tub, but on yours the side fins are a little deeper. On the twin tub the top thingie unscrews a quarter-turn and removes for cleaning the lint filter; on the TL you might have a lint filter system built into the washtub. The way the agitation works on the twin tub is similar to a pulsator or the Whirlpool compact "pulgitator." One turn clockwise, pause, one turn counterclockwise, pause, repeat. One turn each way in "gentle" cycle, which is strong enough to clean most anything. Two turns in one direction followed by one turn in the other for the "normal" cycle which IMHO should be labeled "strong" because it is, and also tends to be somewhat splashy. I'd be interested to know if the same system is used on the TL. What I think Danby did here was: these would be pulsator machines in Asia, but for the North American market Danby had conventional agitators fitted because that's what we're accustomed to and they won't tangle pants legs and shirt sleeves.
Actual full load capacity on the twin tub is 75% to 80% of rated capacity, so the TL is probably similar; to be safe you probably want to start with a load of 60% of capacity and then try 80% and see how it goes. For blue jeans, roll them up in a loose ball before tossing them in; they'll unroll while washing; otherwise they tend to take up more space than necessary and reduce capacity.
Two input hoses are intended for permanent installation; when used as a portable and attached to the sink, you use one hose and control the temperature from the faucet: so if you want a warm or hot rinse, you can get it.
The galvanized metal back-panel has sharp edges and may tend to rattle a bit during spin. The way to solve both of those problems is to remove it and line the edges with folded-over duct tape, one layer is quite sufficient; and then screw it back on. The duct tape cushions it enough to stop the rattle and of course makes it safer to handle. Don't over-tighten the screws, the sheet metal is somewhat lighter than we're used to here and you don't want to strip the holes.
If you do turn the machine on its side to install the casters, it would be interesting to see photos. Ditto for if you take off the back panel as per above paragraph.
Notice the Energy Guide label for the Danby top loader. The little arrow is just off the charts to the left, which means maximum efficiency for its size.
Yes, that dark gray panel that's sitting on top is called a mouse-proof or a rat-proof in the Asian markets. Presumably because in the rural areas in those climates, mousies are known to make their nests in the workings of washers. For the USA market it's a noise-proof because no one in the US admits to having mice
In Australia what you have to worry about is venomous snakes and spiders, which are so lethal they make ours look like cuddly pets, but somehow I don't think manufacturers want to call that panel a snake-proof down there. Optional swivel casters. Hmm! I wonder if they have locks or stops. On the twin tub the casters are built-in and non-swivel but it's still easy enough to move the machine around the kitchen. It would make sense to have non-swivel casters on a conventional TL because the axis of spin is symmetrical with the cabinet, and so it's more likely to scoot around the floor. In any case you do have to level the machine before using it, and might have to adjust the leveling if you don't use it in the same place each time. Also on the twin tub there's no need for leveling because the fill level is controlled manually from the faucet and the spinner is not symmetrical with the cabinet in both directions.
The agitator is almost identical to that on the twin tub, but on yours the side fins are a little deeper. On the twin tub the top thingie unscrews a quarter-turn and removes for cleaning the lint filter; on the TL you might have a lint filter system built into the washtub. The way the agitation works on the twin tub is similar to a pulsator or the Whirlpool compact "pulgitator." One turn clockwise, pause, one turn counterclockwise, pause, repeat. One turn each way in "gentle" cycle, which is strong enough to clean most anything. Two turns in one direction followed by one turn in the other for the "normal" cycle which IMHO should be labeled "strong" because it is, and also tends to be somewhat splashy. I'd be interested to know if the same system is used on the TL. What I think Danby did here was: these would be pulsator machines in Asia, but for the North American market Danby had conventional agitators fitted because that's what we're accustomed to and they won't tangle pants legs and shirt sleeves.
Actual full load capacity on the twin tub is 75% to 80% of rated capacity, so the TL is probably similar; to be safe you probably want to start with a load of 60% of capacity and then try 80% and see how it goes. For blue jeans, roll them up in a loose ball before tossing them in; they'll unroll while washing; otherwise they tend to take up more space than necessary and reduce capacity.
Two input hoses are intended for permanent installation; when used as a portable and attached to the sink, you use one hose and control the temperature from the faucet: so if you want a warm or hot rinse, you can get it.
The galvanized metal back-panel has sharp edges and may tend to rattle a bit during spin. The way to solve both of those problems is to remove it and line the edges with folded-over duct tape, one layer is quite sufficient; and then screw it back on. The duct tape cushions it enough to stop the rattle and of course makes it safer to handle. Don't over-tighten the screws, the sheet metal is somewhat lighter than we're used to here and you don't want to strip the holes.
If you do turn the machine on its side to install the casters, it would be interesting to see photos. Ditto for if you take off the back panel as per above paragraph.
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Have more pictures but the camera batteries died so I have to charge them again.
The batteries I got for cameras and mp3 players and Logitech
computer keyboards and mice came from Canada so PeteK will be pleased
The batteries I got for cameras and mp3 players and Logitech
computer keyboards and mice came from Canada so PeteK will be pleased
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danby
the model pictured is the same one im planning on getting. im a little bothered by the shape of the agitator. the vanes running up the center post are large while the ones at the bottom are almost non existent. do the large fins on the center post do anything to turnover the load? seems like all they would do is wear against the clothes they come into contact with. i woulda prefered an agiator closer to the one in the classic maytags. anyone had experience with agitators similar to this?
the model pictured is the same one im planning on getting. im a little bothered by the shape of the agitator. the vanes running up the center post are large while the ones at the bottom are almost non existent. do the large fins on the center post do anything to turnover the load? seems like all they would do is wear against the clothes they come into contact with. i woulda prefered an agiator closer to the one in the classic maytags. anyone had experience with agitators similar to this?
arrrooohhh
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Poisonus snakes and spiders LOL!!!
Cute little Danby Pete! Cant wait for the video clip too!
I have no idea what we call those rat trap things, they only seem to be a feature on Asian machines, they dont come on our locally manufactured Simpsons and Westinghouses. Incidently my Hootag (Euro Hoover FL sold in Australia as Maytag) came with one of these but its suppossed to be soundproofing.
brettsomers, you will find that the agitator works quite well. These agitators or pulgitators are quite good. They work in the same manner as the flat pulsator discs, but the centre shaft does move the load better and prevent tangling. They also wash more gentle than one of those thrashing Whirlpools, because the stroke is so long.
Cute little Danby Pete! Cant wait for the video clip too!
I have no idea what we call those rat trap things, they only seem to be a feature on Asian machines, they dont come on our locally manufactured Simpsons and Westinghouses. Incidently my Hootag (Euro Hoover FL sold in Australia as Maytag) came with one of these but its suppossed to be soundproofing.
brettsomers, you will find that the agitator works quite well. These agitators or pulgitators are quite good. They work in the same manner as the flat pulsator discs, but the centre shaft does move the load better and prevent tangling. They also wash more gentle than one of those thrashing Whirlpools, because the stroke is so long.
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The bottom vanes on the TT's agitator are about 3/4" deep, I assume the same on the compact TL.
With a load of about 50% of rated capacity, you get obvious turnover action. With a load of 60% of rated capacity you get less, and with 80% of rated capacity, not a lot of obvious turnover. *However*, even without the vigorous rollover of e.g. a fullsize American TL, it does an excellent job of cleaning. You'll sit there watching it and at first you think "gee, the load is moving pretty slowly, I wonder if this darn thing is going to do the job?" but after a few loads you're like, "wow!, hot-damn!, it's subtle but it really works!"
When the agitator is in motion it moves fast, and you can see a decent amount of water movement at the periphery and at the center. The water itself rolls over through the load, which does the job. I've used the "gentle" wash cycle consistently for a year, and an extraction rinse routine in the spinner, as well as a final overflow rinse, which gets all the detergent & its perfume out, and my clothes come out so clean they smell like fresh water. And some of my stuff seems to be "aging backwards": whiter whites, darker darks, brighter colors. In all fairness that might be due to the more efficient rinse when using an extract-rinse procedure in a twin tub, people who have Hoovermatics report similarly.
And undoubtedly part of it is due to paying closer attention to one's washing procedures, i.e. most people, when they choose a machine conscientiously and take the time to learn how to use it properly, report getting cleaner clothes and fluffier towels etc.
You can probably get similar results using the extra rinse function in the compact TL, and reducing your detergent so there's not excess hanging out in the fabrics and causing them to get dull.
My way of determining correct detergent dosage is to get it to the point where there's just a little suds forming, but no more. Some folks here will consider that sacrilege, as they prefer plenty of suds foaming up like whipped cream, but it works for me. (I always thought lots of suds = lots of cleaning, and suds are fun to play with anyway!, but the Danby agitator system doesn't kick up the foam unless you really overdose on detergent, and the results prove these machines work better with smaller doses.)
Now if I were a mechanic or construction worker, or played in the yard and got grass stains on my knees & elbows, I don't know how it would handle all of that kind of heavy grime. Presumably a 15-minute pre-soak (warm water, detergent, no agitation) would loosen it up well enough that the agitation could flush it out of the fabrics.
The larger fins on the center post in the compact auto TL probably won't cause excessive wear. From what I've observed, they would tend to move the load as a mass, to help nudge it around the tub, rather than tearing at whatever's next to them. I've seen some very good reviews of that machine on That Home Site, including one by a guy who first bought the equivalent sized Haier, didn't like it at all, and returned it for a trade-in for the Danby, which he loved. Those reviews plus the constant rave-reviews on the Danby front-loader, were enough to convince me to buy a brand I'd never heard of before, and I'm glad I did.
In all fairness, Haier seems to have improved quite a bit over the last couple of years; but I think Danby still has the edge in terms of adapting Asian machines to the North American market.
Last but not least, one of the American-made compact auto TLs uses a similar system of agitation: clockwise, pause, counterclockwise, pause, repeat. I think it's Whirlpool but I'm not sure. So there seems to be some convergence between manufacturers on this system. But as for which type of agitator fin design is best for this type of motion, that remains to be seen and probably each does best under certain conditions.
With a load of about 50% of rated capacity, you get obvious turnover action. With a load of 60% of rated capacity you get less, and with 80% of rated capacity, not a lot of obvious turnover. *However*, even without the vigorous rollover of e.g. a fullsize American TL, it does an excellent job of cleaning. You'll sit there watching it and at first you think "gee, the load is moving pretty slowly, I wonder if this darn thing is going to do the job?" but after a few loads you're like, "wow!, hot-damn!, it's subtle but it really works!"
When the agitator is in motion it moves fast, and you can see a decent amount of water movement at the periphery and at the center. The water itself rolls over through the load, which does the job. I've used the "gentle" wash cycle consistently for a year, and an extraction rinse routine in the spinner, as well as a final overflow rinse, which gets all the detergent & its perfume out, and my clothes come out so clean they smell like fresh water. And some of my stuff seems to be "aging backwards": whiter whites, darker darks, brighter colors. In all fairness that might be due to the more efficient rinse when using an extract-rinse procedure in a twin tub, people who have Hoovermatics report similarly.
And undoubtedly part of it is due to paying closer attention to one's washing procedures, i.e. most people, when they choose a machine conscientiously and take the time to learn how to use it properly, report getting cleaner clothes and fluffier towels etc.
You can probably get similar results using the extra rinse function in the compact TL, and reducing your detergent so there's not excess hanging out in the fabrics and causing them to get dull.
My way of determining correct detergent dosage is to get it to the point where there's just a little suds forming, but no more. Some folks here will consider that sacrilege, as they prefer plenty of suds foaming up like whipped cream, but it works for me. (I always thought lots of suds = lots of cleaning, and suds are fun to play with anyway!, but the Danby agitator system doesn't kick up the foam unless you really overdose on detergent, and the results prove these machines work better with smaller doses.)
Now if I were a mechanic or construction worker, or played in the yard and got grass stains on my knees & elbows, I don't know how it would handle all of that kind of heavy grime. Presumably a 15-minute pre-soak (warm water, detergent, no agitation) would loosen it up well enough that the agitation could flush it out of the fabrics.
The larger fins on the center post in the compact auto TL probably won't cause excessive wear. From what I've observed, they would tend to move the load as a mass, to help nudge it around the tub, rather than tearing at whatever's next to them. I've seen some very good reviews of that machine on That Home Site, including one by a guy who first bought the equivalent sized Haier, didn't like it at all, and returned it for a trade-in for the Danby, which he loved. Those reviews plus the constant rave-reviews on the Danby front-loader, were enough to convince me to buy a brand I'd never heard of before, and I'm glad I did.
In all fairness, Haier seems to have improved quite a bit over the last couple of years; but I think Danby still has the edge in terms of adapting Asian machines to the North American market.
Last but not least, one of the American-made compact auto TLs uses a similar system of agitation: clockwise, pause, counterclockwise, pause, repeat. I think it's Whirlpool but I'm not sure. So there seems to be some convergence between manufacturers on this system. But as for which type of agitator fin design is best for this type of motion, that remains to be seen and probably each does best under certain conditions.
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Yow!, I just wrote another full-length article there, without even trying Hard to tell when typing in this little "Message" composing box, ha ha...
Hard to tell when typing in this little "Message" composing box, ha ha...Maximum wash time
Hi Designgeek,
What is the maximum wash time on your machine? Our Simpsons/Hoovers/Westinghouses, go up to a 28 minute wash, and thats without adding the soak period.
They seem to manage all kinds of dirt, on a full load, the clothes just dont move around. You're right, it seems to be more about moving the water than moving the clothes.
The big problem I found with those machines, is due to the very lightwieght construction, they go OOB very easily. However that was more of a Hoover issue, prior to the 3 models converging and having identical mechanicals.
Hi Designgeek,
What is the maximum wash time on your machine? Our Simpsons/Hoovers/Westinghouses, go up to a 28 minute wash, and thats without adding the soak period.
They seem to manage all kinds of dirt, on a full load, the clothes just dont move around. You're right, it seems to be more about moving the water than moving the clothes.
The big problem I found with those machines, is due to the very lightwieght construction, they go OOB very easily. However that was more of a Hoover issue, prior to the 3 models converging and having identical mechanicals.
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pump
