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As always, loving these ads, Louis!!

I wanna go back to 1957 and get the living room grouping shown in reply #28!!

Very interesting that as far back as the early 20s, the idea of 'live better electrically' was already being floated. I suppose at the time that many, many homes didn't have any serious, if any 'housepower'. Vive la Knob and Tube... LOL
 
My pleasure Paul!

 

 

Yeah, that Kroehler set is just beautiful! Would love to find something like that. When I was a toddler, we had a very similar set, but in deep blue fabric. And of course it was covered in clear vinyl.
 
'live better electrically'

By early in last century while many homes were wired, outlets were often lacking. Instead lamp sockets were used which not only proved dangerous, obviously limited how many appliances could be used at once.

Even if the circuit could easily handle say a light blub and iron, well you can't screw both into same socket.

It was truly a case of the tail wagging the dog. Once electricity came upon scene not long afterwards more and more various appliances were introduced. Gradually all things that once required heating on a stove/range (gas, coal, or whatever), now had their own internal heating elements.

So you're a 1920's housewife laying out breakfast. Electric coffee pot, electric waffle iron, electric toaster, electric fry pan, etc... Obviously that one lamp socket or whatever just wasn't going cut it.
 
“Even if the circuit could easily handle say a light blub and iron, well you can't screw both into same socket. “

There were “Y” sockets that could be screwed into the light socket therby giving the ability to use two electical appliances at once, or a light bulb and an appliance. I found that Lowes still sells them. I believe that I’ve even seen adapters in old movies that allowed for three appliances or bulb at once, but they probably were not very safe if too much wattage was used at the same time.

Also, pay attention to old movies, and you’ll notice that many older homes and apartments were retro fitted with electical wiring that ran down the walls, usually near a door frame, as I’m sure that going through the lathe and plaster walls would have been prohibitive for people without means.

Eddie
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@eddie

Problem with light socket outlets is most (maybe all?) were not grounded. You can imagine what happened when a housewife doing laundry using a washer that required a floor drain and or otherwise wet floor reached up to unscrew the plug and if there was a short in machine.
 
Early convenience outlets weren`t grounded either. At least you couldn`t ground an appliance over the outlets as there was only the two prongs plug, so washers usually came with grounding wires which had to be attached to a water pipe or similar to be electrically safe.

If the outer casing of a light socket would be grounded but your faulty washer on a wet floor isn`t grounded then I`d actually prefer to touch a non grounded socket to unscrew the plug.
 
When Rossmore Leisure World opened in California, Life Magazine was full of ads touting how they were built for the retired set. One of the things they liked to show was that the electrical outlets were chair high so that people in wheelchairs and otherwise unable to bend easily would have less difficulty connecting plugs on cords to wall outlets.

 

I grew up with a Cosco stool, although it was not used for much. My sister made sure to take it out of the house when we emptied it. It is red.
 
<span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #008000;">I always wondered what Ann Pillsbury looked like. No resemblance to the Doughboy at all. </span>
 
reply 58

we lived in a National home in Mooresville Indiana in the early 1970's. It was a 3 bed 1 bath slab-on-grade with a 1 car garage that had been converted into a family room.

The kitchen and bathroom shared the same wall and plumb runs to minimize costs on piping. It was built in 1958. I recall it must have come with an oil furnace orginally but when we purchased it in 1971 or 72 it already had a natural gas furnace put in. My bedroom was the far one on the right front of the house

I put the google street view link in the URL. It is the house with a portable basketball goal in the front yard. The family room behind driveway now has a much larger window and the arch covering the front door has been removed. IN case the link does not work the addy is 21 maryvale court mooresville indiana. If you are able to pan around and move around some of the adjoining streets, you will see pretty much ALL the homes were National homes. IN fact, they were dime a dozen back in the Midwest.

I recall many happy memories living there. We were Penny's folks, from appliances to clothes etc. I was a very happy little boy with my $2 keds from Ben Franklin 25 cent comic book 2 cent bazooka joe bubble gum and soda with sugar.

In light of recent loss of family I can say without reservation that I really miss those days and would give anything to go back.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/2...x134a813d1bcf935f!8m2!3d39.6210062!4d-86.3723
 
Ben

I know just what you mean about missing those happy childhood days. We were content with so much less then, and it was a safer world for little kids.

My little brother and I used to walk all over the neighborhood from the time we not much more than toodlers, and my parents didn’t have to worry about us being safe. People looked out for one another then. This was a neighboorhood in Richmond, Calif. and the homes were all built just before the Second World War, all pretty much alike. This was the first home my parents bought after my Dad passed the Bar Exam in 1952. I’m pretty sure they had a VA loan on it. It was a 3 bed 1 bath house. I took my neice to see it in 1995, and it still looked the same as it did in 1954 when we moved from there. And it was just like I had a homing device, I drove right to it, just like I still lived there.

We had a Servel Gas refrigerator and a 36” O’Keffee and Merritt gas stove and a gas floor furnace that you needed a furnace key to turn on and off. I remember standing on the grate while it heated up, until it got too hot and started to burn my feet. We had a GE wringer washer on the service porch off of the kitchen, no dryer, but a nice clothes line that Mom could reel in and out, so she could just stand on the back porch and hang the laundry, and then reel it back in when it was dry.

I used to go next door the Mrs Brennen’s house next door and really just invite myself in, when I was only 3 yrs old,and she treated me like I was an honored guest. We would sit down at her kitchen table and have Ovaltine, just like she was having coffee with an adult. I always felt safe and loved. I’m glad you have those same kind of happy memories too.

Eddie[this post was last edited: 9/14/2018-18:13]
 
You nailed it eddie

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 THose are the days I miss.  No email, no smart phone, you watched Rhoda or whatever when it was aired or in reruns.  Rainy days meant Life, monopoly, connect 4 battleships etc or a train set

 

I subscribed to Highlights for Children and was part of the Weekly Reader Book club.

 

Seems like a simpler time, perfect was it?  NO, but there seemed to be a lot more harmony in the world than what we have today.
 
OMG Ben

Highlights Magazine! My brother, sister and I always looked forward to the new issue every month! Remember Goofus and Gallant?

And we played Monopoly, Scrabble, Chinese Checkers, Checkers, Bingo and Go Fish endlessly. There were only three TV channels then and not much to watch many times. We learned to get along with one another. My parents always said, “If you can’t get along with your family, how the hell to you expect to get along with anyone else in your life”?

And if we ever had a question about anything, our parents told us to go look it up in the encyclopedia, we had the World Book 1959 edition, Brittanica Junior1956 edition and a Comptons 1940 edition. I loved the encyclopedia. We were expected to entertain ourselves and use our heads. And it fostered independence and inquisitive minds that all three of us have to this day. And I read a different book everyday. The school library was one of my favorite places.

So much better than being hunched over a lighted screen, beginning to develop a lifetime of neck problems.

Eddie[this post was last edited: 9/14/2018-16:05]
 
oh yes!

and the Timbertoes!  I loved that magazine.

I think I might fly out to visit sometime!  I bet we could swap stories for days on end.

 

I had the World Book Encyclopedia or was it the New Book of Knowledge 1972 edition. I can't remember, but I know by the time I hit first grade, I read the entire volume. Along with every Hardy Boys, Happy Hollisters, and Nancy Drew book I could beg, borrow or .........well borrow!  Remember the Golden Guides?  At one point I had them all and I still have the weather one and the one about spiders too.

 

Sounds like your parents and mine were cut from the same cloth. 

 

Oh one more thing, our home in Mooresville had the screw in fuses and a whopping 60 amp service!  How we managed to run an electric water heater plus a Penneys AC unit I don't know but we did somehow!
 
I loved going to the dentist and reading Highlights. Spent alot of time in the public library and read alot as a kid. Was always felt safe as a kid, hated Catholic grammar school. Read every Sears catalog cover to cover and grew up with an old octopus oil furnace and those stupid Buss fuses in a 60 amp. entrance too. Glad that chapter is done but the memories still bring me back to a much easier day.
 
Ben,

I’m not familar with the Timbertoes magazine or the Golden Guides, but you’re a good deal younger than I am, so maybe we didn’t have them during my youth. My favorite kids books were the biographies about famous people. I read them all. And yes, I agree, sounds like our parents were very similar. I’m very grateful to have been raised by them and during the time I was raised. It’s served me well throughout my life.

I remember those screw in fuses well. When I was first out on my own most of the rentals I lived in were old and they all had them. One place was a duplex that was probably built in about 1920. I had a Maytag A50 Twin Tub, and whenever I used the spin tub, if I had much else on, like a lot of lights it would blow a fuse. And the fuse box was outside, under the eaves with Ivy all around it and no lights. Once it blew at night, while it was raining. I had no ladder, and the only chairs I had were three leg Danish Modern, so I was outside, on that precarious chair, in the rain, flashlight in hand and the new fuse in my mouth, changing the fuse. After that I never did the laundry after dark again while I lived there.

The house we lived in just before my Dad died in 1962 had radiant heating in the slab floor. The house was built right after WWII and materials weren’t the best then due to shortages. Anyway the boiler would often overheat and start to clang. There was a pressure gauge, and since I was the oldest kid it was my job to turn off the boiler when it started to clang. My Dad told me to get out fast if the needle of the gauge was in the red zone. That used to scare me a little, but I did it anyway. I was only 11 years old, but I already knew what responsibility was. I also knew how to relight the water heater, and did so often.

Sorry to bore the “app cray” out of everyone, but I suspect that my early childhood experiences are similar to many other members of my generation.

Eddie
 
Timbertoes?

Wait a minute, weren’t the Timbertoes characters in Highlights magazine? I do vaugely recall that now. It’s been a long time since I last read Highlights, but I sure did enjoy that publication.

Eddie
 
Yes,remember Costco stools--had one-always was in the kitchen.then Highlights and Weekly Reader.Sort of miss them as a grownup!yes Goofus&Gallant!!We see modern "adult" Goofus and Gallants today--Look around you!
 
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