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Asia CAN build a quality product and America CAN build a crappy product, it just depends. Take Panasonic and Hoover vacuums for example. Hoover's Dial-A-Matic uprights were although a big hit and they're one of my favorites, they had a bunch of design flaws. Hoover then sold its patents to Panasonic and made even better machines that Hoover hadn't done before. I'd gladly take a Japanese built Panasonic Jet-Flo upright over an American made Hoover Dial-A-Matic.
 
To expand what chetlaham said...

You cannot tell the difference between makes and models by feeling them anymore, or simply listening to them. I remember when each brand of washer and dryer had a unique characteristic due to their sounds. Each whirlpool/maytag sounds the same, and the GE sounds very similar. I too am upset about having no variety. Absolutely stupid.
 
using the word stupid

Excuse me for constantly using the word "stupid". There are things I don't like about modern appliances that I find that way. It's a shame that nobody actually takes the time to demonstrate the normal sounds and actions of the machines like they used to unless you watch Kirk Rivas or Lorain Furniture.
 
Jerome

I remember you said on a Imperial thread that GE's vintage pumps sounded EXACTLY the same as Whirlpool's and wondered if Whirlpool ever sued GE for stealing their pump design. In all of honesty, even the older washers and dryers sounds very similar to me. Not just the modern ones. Alot of the parts that Whirlpool, GE, SQ, etc would get like the motors would come from the same factory. Nobody makes all of the parts in house. So overall, I disagree about your thoughts that still stands but you're entitled to your own opinion. I love my LG front loader that's HE, it's the second best washer and dryer I've used. I'm never switching over to my Kenmore 90 Series that's built by whirlpool because it wastes on electricity, water, and clothes. Yes the agitator is WAY too aggressive for me. I've never had a mold issue on the LG, also never had a problem with unbalancing, clothes being ruined, dries just fine, I think I've saved money over buying a SQ which is WAY more expensive than an LG. You've definitely never learned from alot here like qualin's post on reply #7 which by the way now has 27 checkrates/likes as I gave him a thumbs up for agreeing with him.
 
The only advice I have for Jerome at the point is to only post in the Imperial forum index, move on completely from the Deluxe forum index if you really have that much of a hatred for modern appliances, or anything modern for that matter.

I’ll admit as someone who is on the spectrum (yes I am in case if anyone is wondering), change and seeing things change for the better or worse can be somewhat difficult since any change in life is, but at the end of the day I have to be a realist since change is inevitable and life is full of change and progress. Can’t stick my head in the sand just because things aren’t going my way or one small thing has thrown my day off ever so slightly. If things never changed, there wouldn’t be tomorrow or the future. I also can’t fixate on the same subject since it’s just not worth my time anymore, much rather put my time and energy to use elsewhere. I could fixate on the older Whirlpool belt drive design every single and mention on how Whirlpool could bring it back but that’ll never happen because of greed and planned obsolescence among many other things. Maybe I’d fixate in what it would take to make the machines myself and that would be a massive undertaking but as the saying goes: “If you want something done right, got to do it yourself”.
 
nearly 9 years later...

Nothing has changed. HE washers still use WAY too little water and are too gentle on laundry. Thank God for Speed Queen Classic! I have had too much experience with these so-called HE laundry machines and I've come to the conclusion that plenty of water is needed. The whole "water shortage" premise is a lie. I am with washman. I hope the feds try these HE machines and maybe their tune will change. We've told people for years that they still don't work! And, it's a matter of time before Speed Queen Laundry is forced to adopt the HE design too!
 
Reply #207: MAYTAG85 (Sean A806) to GELAUNDRYFOREVER:

 

I have to second that! Just get a water guzzling Filter Flo, or whatever is the most notorious "could fill with an ocean's worth of water" vintage machine...

 

Just like your namesake suggests, don't make it any brand forever in this day and age, nor post in any gov't-regulated new appliance thread or even forum...

 

Lastly, if you're an upgraded member, I'm sure there is great opportunity in DIRTY LAUNDRY for ranting about modern day energy-regulations by Uncle Sam and even international governments' regulations abroad...

 

 

 

-- Dave

 
 
to tolivac

I agree with you. Here we are 9 years later and nothing has changed. Every problem the feds solve, they create tons more behind it. Seriously. I can waste water if I want and use softener if I want. I! AM the one doing laundry. Not them!
 
When I was living at a ranch several years ago, there were three washers I've used. Two Speed Queen classic top loaders and a HE Whirlpool Duet front loader. Neither SQ cleaned as well or better than the Whirlpool. Just recently this past memorial day weekend I visited with my aunt and uncle who both used to have Kenmore direct drive top loaders before switching over to HE front loaders that they use now, neither one has ever regretted getting rid of their top loaders. Even I don't have any regrets of getting a HE front loader and I won't ever go back to using a top loader as I've pretty much come to the conclusion that they're outdated for me. Grew up with two GE top loaders one of them was a Filter-Flo, our HE front loaders just did a better job for us.
 
 
Our 1962 WP was bad at rinsing.  It suffered frequent suds-locking in the first spin with the high-sudsing detergents of the time.  Spray rinses in the first spin couldn't drain, bogged-down the spin speed.
 
Belt drives only struggle with rinsing if you use too much detergent or select a long wash timer which will kick up a lot of suds.
 
GE filter flo washers

I've read many posts here touting the GE "Filter-Flo" line line of washing machines that I feel compelled to share what I remember of the GE my Mother owned.
Sometime in '61 or '62 my Dad bought a brand new GE top load washer based on recommendations from a close family friend who repaired GE appliances.
I'm assuming that the machine was a filter-flo design because it had a white plastic filter attached to the top of the agitator of which wash water would spew into while the machine was agitating, the filter was removeable for cleaning.
Being that I was fascinated with all things mechanical, I loved watching the machine as it went upon its duties.
Two or three years later I remember the same family friend repairing the washer, he practically had the machine apart and took a large component with him to repair at his shop, I asked what the part was, he told me it was the transmission.
This went on several times again until '66 or so until my Mother was fed up with the GE constantly needing repairs.
Perhaps the GE was a lemon, however I remember the transmission being removed from it at least 3x.
I then remember going with my Dad to an appliance store when he purchased a new Maytag top loader with the ubiquitous center dial, the Maytag served our household faithfully well into the '90's...
 
GE filter flow washers

Had more transmission problems than any other brand probably.

The good thing was that they were easy to change and GE developed a program and sold factory remanufactured transmissions, which were equal to the quality of brand new ones and was really the only way to try to fix a GE filter, flow washer when it had a transmission problem.

I have never rebuilt a GE transmission because GE always had good ones available. I never liked selling a used GE filter flow washer because the transmissions was always one of the many wild cards, they also tended to eat laundry that was thrown over the basket and get stuck in the pump they tended to walk a lot , and they were generally a little bit noisy and crude other than that they were fun washers That worked fairly well.

John
 

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