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Videos are proof so perhaps someone with an HE toploader or frontloader can produce a video showing how much water is used for a full cycle, from dry clothes loaded to end of final spin, by directing the drain hose into a collection tub and then measuring out the collected water by an 8 oz. cup to confirm that the total is one 8 oz. cup.  :-)
 
90% of the "videos" available to watch are from people who haven't a clue what they're doing with their machine in the first place, and are complaining about problems they clearly caused themselves by ignoring the user manual.

Reviews for most high efficiency machines are actually very high, and it's usually very easy to tell who is trolling just because they want something to complain about, or who obviously doesn't have any common sense and shouldn't be using the machine in the first place. It takes quite a bit of scrolling to find negative reviews that actually seem legitimate; i.e. ignoring people who use terms and phrases like "just a piece of junk" or "always/never".

There are a lot of people who prefer top loaders that use a lot of water, and there are a lot of people who love their top loaders and front loaders that use less, but for the most part there is respect from both sides with the understanding that both types of machines do their jobs and it's strictly a matter of personal preference. No one goes around name calling and bashing and trolling countless posts just to rant about the same thing over and over again.
 
Online Reviews

I cannot stress this enough. The vast majority of online reviews, like many others here have said, are full of CRAP.

I was heavily researching dishwashers/washers/dryers for months, and hardly found any machines with anything good to say.
HOWEVER, when you talk to technical people, smart people, associates at the stores, they will tell you that the actual reliability and satisfaction of these new products is very high. Like 80% plus.
THOSE are the people I choose to listen to.
Not some moron on Youtube railing on and on about his machine because he's an idiot.

ALSO, local water conditions have a huge effect on performance.

It's practically a law of physics that online reviews are almost purely complaints from angry people to vent.
 
Also, if I'm not mistaken, I'm pretty sure the new Cabrio design actually uses MORE water than the Oasis design did. At least it sure seems to, because it gradually adds water throughout the wash until their practically floating, and there is no longer a spray rinse. Even the water efficiency rating was lower than my Bravos XL. If I can find the real comparisons I'll post them.
 
GELaundry4ever

GELaundry4ever,

you need to realise that high efficency washers are here to stay, you might not like those kind of washers but by the time my mom and i will have replace or 2004 whirlpool duet set i have been doing research on the curent models 20015 2016 line of washer dryers and since my mom and i are looking to have a stack washer dryer planing on sticking with a front load washer if you went a non he washer you will have to look on craiglist for models dating 1950 to 1999 vintage and good old fashion direct drive washer dryer and learn how to restore them and do annual maitnance. Because maybe by next year 2017 there might not be many non he toploads on the market only he topload washers.
 
not sticking up but

having a w/p duet pair since 2008 (which are now both pushed in a corner)they were the biggest pieces of crap I ever owned,error this error that & the dryer that had to be vacuumed every 2 months(cause of lint buildup)not to speak of the long drying cycles,im glad to have the speed queen set faster washes quick drying times & clean clothes,thats what their suppose to do,oh & the duets are for sale,any takers ? oh and by the way I have never needed a wash stick to push my clothes down into the water!(as seen in vid above)LOL
 
stupid warranty and diagnostics!

The extended warranty is useless! I have heard complaints that technicians are rude. The consumer deals with rude customer service! I shouldn't have to buy a stupid extended warranty! What is the point of an extended warranty? The manufacturer blames the customer for not buying it! Appliance manufacturers are well known brands! You shouldn't have to buy the stupid extended warranty! Absolutely stupid! "You should've bought the extended warranty!" What kind of bs is that? Seriously? What is wrong with this picture? Washers and dryers that connect to the internet to dial out for help with service calls is the dumbest thing that has ever happened! It is designed to fail! It is the truth! The truth hurts.
 
Times change

Technology changes, we adapt.

 

Some feel that the wringer washer was the best in washing and water conservation.  Some still use these machines and are very happy with them.

 

There are some that would rather cook on a wood stove than a modern electric.  Others don't like hauling the wood and getting up an hour earlier each morning to boil water for their coffee (they don't like microwaves either).

 

What I found when I adopted a front load Maytag six years ago is:
1.  I am able to wash larger loads, thus fewer loads.

2.  The difference I notice in the cleanliness of my clothes is they are cleaner, less pretreating.

3.  I am using less water (almost 3,000 gallons a month less).

4.  I am using less detergent.

 

Rinsing, is up for debate, but I can add extra rinses; still sometimes feeling a good soak in the tub rinse would be better.

 

Longevity--I sincerely doubt todays electronic laden machines will live much beyond their planned life cycle.   

 

We either choose to adopt new technology, or we stay vintage.  There is nothing wrong with either option.

 

Now excuse me I have to stoke the fire and get Pa's supper ready before he brings the horses out of the field.

 
 
I agree: To each his own. I prefer a modern front-loading HE washer---mine also happens to be a Maytag. Others would rather beat their clothes against a rock than use an HE washer. I get frustrated when people's rants are filled with inaccuracies, but such is life.

I realize I'm the fish out of water, here. AW was made by and for people into vintage machines. While I appreciate vintage appliances, I have no desire to own one, primarily because I haven't the skills/inclination to keep one working. The repairs/rebuilds undertaken by members are astounding; the collections magnificent---but I'll always be an observer when it comes to vintage appliances.
 
yikes....

jeez dude.....maybe try talking to a professional. All that stress and anger ain't healthy.
I'm already over the sale of GE Appliances to the Chinese.
I'll adapt, it's out of my hands.
 
Hahahaha omg

Andrew too funny! My neighbor looks JUST like that. Every time I drive by my building I can see him in his unit on his computer. What he's looking at, I have no idea. Nor do I want to know lmao.
 
I have to have one of those tiny little washers

Where can I get one?

Are they floor demos?  How big a box would I need to sneek it out of the store if they refused to sell it to me?

 

What do you think the value of one would be?  Just planning if it would be grand theft, or simple shoplifting in case they won't sell. 
 
I will go even further...

Abolish the EPA and all regulatory departments in the government, then make  appliances correctly, stoves that have pushbuttons, and knobs you don't have to push in to turn, electric outlets on the back splash, washers that use water and most especially dishwashers that use at least 15 gallons a load, peeing on dishes for 2 hours is silly, long live the 50 gallon a minute pressure of a vintage Kitchen Aid...I am the MOST anti green person you EVER met!!!AND MOST OF ALL, BAN A L L  Chinese imports, tell the American companies, Ok, you make it all here, or you don't sell it!
 

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