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It must be a midwest thing! Haha. You're right.
Well, right now I inherited a basic Kenmore fridge from the old owners, but it's only 1yr old. So I'm good on fridges for a while.
BUT, I am looking at a new range next year for xmas. The existing one is beat to hell.
I was looking at a GE range of course....but now I'm not so sure I want to give them money. Maybe I'll look at a Maytag range.

I WAS going to get a set of GE right-height laundry pairs, but....they never would've fit in my tiny, 1980s laundry room. So I had to get a set of stackable Maximas. Which I'm loving btw. No buyers remorse at all.
 
Speaking of going by reviews

---thinking back to 2005 when I bought my Duet Pair - Good Lord, if I had gone by the reviews you would have thought I was asking for trouble buying this machine based on reviews back then and the talk on the gardenweb forum back then....and admittedly, year 2 I had the control board replaced, but now I'm going on year 11 and I don't regret buying it....

reviews help some, but some people who review these new appliances just don't know that the blank they are talking about - you can totally tell in the review too. Some of the reviews, however, do seem legit and the person seems to know a good bit about the machine they are reviewing (much more so than when I bought mine)
 
AWO is easier found than in the past thanks to google.....

if people doing research for reviews were looking for an honest opinion of pros and cons, they would come here....not to boast AWO....

but you have to admit, there has been a lot of help offered by skilled and/or knowledgeable people here, more than you will find in any one persons first hand experience with something like a FLer....just saying....

but always found it best, no matter what your buying, to seek advice from a service tech more than a salesman....

and experience has told us, a majority of machines faults lie with user error more than anything else...
 
... for that reason I'll buy the cheapest washer I can find.

It will fit my budget and no matter how bad it is, it will be much better than running 4 loads only to wash my uniform in the "egg".

Now matter how poor it extracts, it will be better than squeezing my hand.

No matter how small it is, it will wash a pair of jeans.

No matter how cheaply made it is, it will be better than using a nasty washer at the laundromat.

No matter how poor is the rinse, i can repeat the cycle if it happens to need an extra rinse.

I want to have the control over the machine.... I'll probably ending up by buying one of those 1 cu ft Haiers.
 
Thomas, you may want to consider one of the Avanti/Madea machines......1.7 or larger would suit your needs best.....and matching dryer.....

hooks to sink, and can convert to permanent hookups....
 
+1 Norgeway except I would add........franchise Keaton's BBQ chicken so all of 'murica can taste the most flavorful unique chicken ever made.
 
Problem Per se Is *NOT* Modern Washers

But the conflicting set of circumstances domestic laundry appliance makers find themselves having to cope.

On the one hand you have governments mandating energy efficiency which really comes down to water (heated) use. On the other you have consumers unwilling to pay premium prices for what would be TOL equipment.

Look at vintage top, front, and even semi-automatic washers from late as the 1970's and you'll often find build quality that would be very expensive to produce today. Especially with union factory labor.

Whirlpool and Electrolux alone between their own patents and those of the companies they have gobbled up have some of the best designs for washing machines and dryers the world has ever seen. Whirlpool could reintroduce Maytag's "Dependable Care" or their famous "Surgilator" washers with all the bells and whatnot of yesterday; but at what cost? That and increased government meddling regarding energy use has pretty much killed off or is killing traditional top loader market.

As to the question which is better top or H-Axis; that ship sailed decades ago. There are reasons commercial laundries going back to the last century if not before chose H-axis washing machines.

Thor/Hurley Machine Company, Maytag and others all had early "side loading" washing machines for the home. https://books.google.com/books?id=T...vKAhXFmR4KHez0DqAQ6AEILzAD#v=onepage&q&f=true
 
Well even I, as the absolutus something or another Speed Queen cheerleader have to concur that people in the end will buy what they want. For some FL is the only way to go (and I would consider a SQ FL if I had the need). Others really are happy with their TL HE machine. So be it. Some of us like old school machines like the SQ.

I'm happy with mine. So is my dad. So are a lot of people. Some want/need 29 cycles and endless options. So be it. Ranting to them about it won't cause them to toss their machine and go buy a 70's era Whirlpool. Or a GE for that matter.

Besides, I am a homeowner now and I have lots of other fish to fry so to speak. And I'm all about Goodman union made furnaces and Bradford-White union made water heaters. Not so hot on Frigidaire ice boxes and my jury is still out on the Whirlpool glass cooktop electric. Still playing with it.

And I still like A&H liquid as my daily driver.
 
Arm & Hammer

That and Xtra are the worst detergents I've ever used. Grew up using A&H and thought it was bad then, tried it recently and they intensified the scent x 5 or something and it gives me a screaming headache, has a nasty musky odor to it.

Looking back that was the reason our AmanaQueen didn't clean like I thought it should, and certainly not as well as my SQ does now.
 
Yogi, thanks for the advice. I'll look for them and if the price is good, i'll get them.
The thing is, i'll try to keep it as cheap as possible for now so, i don't care if it's new or used or automatic or semi automatic, as soon as it spins.

Later i'll replace it with a brand new TOL washer and dryer i choose.

Frankly speaking, i don't know why i have some kind of "love relationship" with that micro-haier. I've never used it and i bet it's not the best machine one can have (it's probably the worst ever) but it's super cute. Don't blame me, yes, we got to admit that machine is cute, so small, and it looks so fragile... but yes, it's the cutest washer ever, after the Electrolux mini silent (that one that hangs on the wall and it's one of the best washers I've ever had)

And after i get a decent washer, i can keep it as a souvenir... I can use it as a second washer or even as a laundry basket in the bathroom or a wastebasket in the kitchen! LOL
 
nothing against Asians

I have nothing against Asians, but I'm so used to American products being synonymous with built tough quality like Speed Queen and Maytag. At least that's what I assumed. It's when I see something new on the market being sold only to read consumer complaints about said washers and dryers does it get to me, along with when I visit a store to look at them only to discover how cheap they are.
 
Well, I guess they are probably somewhat built for

A different market, as I own a machine that was built in Japan, and nearly all plastic, the other thing I’ve ever had to replace, and it was the shifter arm that engaged/disengaged the outer tub for spinning and the water pump, as the seal had gone with that pump
 

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