Monday's DDD ~ 74 Norge ~ 3/4 Horse Power Motor & PP Issues

[mickeyd]

Waited for someone else--can't wait. Need answers later.

 

Who else besides Norge has a 3/4 horse motor? Is that why it cleans the hell out of anything?

 

Did they ever do a classic cooldown? Haven't seen one do that. Wondering why they couldn't engineer that function.

 

The 74 TOL: No one in the club has this model that I know of; nor have we seen it before. I could be wrong, of course. Really cool linears on the main dial like later Kitchen Aids, and 12 buttons to match 12 of the 14 keys on the LK's Keyboards. Indentical cycles, but no button for custom Care or Selective Dialing. Separate soak to wash option switch.

 

A Thought-provoking DDD for sure.

 

[Unimatic1140]

Aren't those the oddest looking control panels with all those squared lines around the control dial?

I too Mike have never seen a Norge washer model from around this time. I do remember a slightly earlier model probably 1971 or so in a beach house we rented down the NJ shore when I was a kid, but it didn't have this odd looking control panel.

Not sure if Norge ever offered a Perm-press cool down, but unless you are line drying it is a feature that was never necessary IMHO.

 

[gansky1]

This was the machine I found at the same time as the WP Electronic washer - the WP was never used, the Norge however was beat to death. Still have the panel though. I recall CR didn't like the panel markings for the control dial, difficult to read.

 

[akronman]

Excellent DDD

NORGE!!!!! Mine is 1978, not far from this catalog. However no web site exactly gets either the model or serial number, but the machine says 50th Anniversary Norge, should be 1928 to 1978.

 

I like the dial, easy to read, one real cycle, then a prewash or second rinse, and a 30 minute sok, no PermPress or other real cycles.

 

I believe this is MOL at best, but I love the variety of speed and water temps on the knobs, a damn useful, adjustable, great filtering and agitating and extracting machine, but I slightly fault the spray rinsing on smaller loads, not quite enough. The extraction starts as a neutral drain, then the spray and spin kick in simultaneously as the water level switch call for water. But at approximately 1.5 minutes into the extract/spray/spin cycle, all fresh water stops. So if it was a high water level to begin with, then the spray starts early and plentiful. If it was a small load, it may get only 20 seconds or so of spray.  But only the worst dirty loads ever need that second rinse, which ends up being the same as I occasionally have to do on many other washers with rotten dirty loads. Anyhows, blah blah blah, here's  the pictures of a 1978(??) Norge. I bought it from Dave Volvoguy, a nice man who made a great sale!

 

PS----all spray rinsing is cold water, no matter what wash/rinse temps you choose.

PS----incredible suspension and stable cabinet, no shakes or walking at all. LOUD as hell, but rock solid.

 

[akronman]

here's more

2 speed model, you can choose all 4 variations of agi speed versus spin speed, my only machine with that variety.

 

[akronman]

and more

after reading here about various KM/WP having a dry agitate section in the timer, looking like an extra sized OFF section, I tested this NOrge, and found dry agitate after the prewash cycle. IT runs about 4 minutes, long enough to suck suds up from the drain tub.

 

Also, though previous picture ain't great, the temps allow HW, HC, WW, WC, CC, 5 variations, better than most of my machines. But the spray rinse is cold only.  Nevertheless, this machine is built like a tank, turns over anything, beats it clean, the Burpilator filters the lint amazingly well(not a FilterFlo, but better than many other brands.)

 

 

 

[washerlover]

I think my '74 Signature is close to top of the line for Montgomery Ward that year...lots of buttons to push!

 

[daveamkrayoguy]

I wonder if the "Best Norge" also has a hump for that Detergent Dispenser?

There was a friend of my mine from long ago whose parents were "Norge Nuts"--but I think their washer & dryer were Wards Signature...!

-- Dave

(Also tempted to download that 'Daily Doctrine'...)

 

[combo52]

3/4 HP Norge Washers

Norge was the only US manufacturer to ever use a 3/4 HP induction motor on a washer to my knowledge. They did this mainly as an advertising gimmick so they could  [ rightly ] claim that you could stuff 20lbs of clothing in a washer that by their own earlier claims was designed to wash 14lbs. UL requires that if you claim a certain capacity that the washer actually makes it through the full cycle without cutting off on the motors overload protector. In reality the only thing that a 3/4 HP motor did for the average user was waste electricity and burn out lots of timer contacts, soon after they started using these ridiculous motors we started to see melted timers, especially when they were using those cheap black plastic France timers LOL.

 

[akronman]

3/4HP

My 1978, pictured above, had a dead 1/2 HP motor when I got it, and a replacement 1/2HP for the new owner to install. I don't know when Norge switched.

 

[mickeyd]

Mark, cool to know the Norge will suck suds. Did you ever do the dry load spray rinse test to see how much of the water hits the clothes? Remember we both noticed that the stream flows straight down. ( I had one long ago.)

 

John, you are too funny, and thanks. Somehow, I knew you'd know.

 

The Mahufski's were Boilermakers generating heavy dirty work clothes loads, from really thick gear to protect their bodies from sparks and stuff. they said they had the cleanest clothes on the job, and joked and boasted about their 3/4 horses.

 

Interesting Robert, that the classic cooldown is now almost extinct, replaced by a Casual Cycle on Geraldine's Whirltag with two 30 second sprays on slow speed at the start of the wash spin. For me, the PP has always been something to play with, my second favorite washer magic after the suds-return.

 

So then Norge, among their many gifts, was prescient about the PP's. Thiers was always a spray. The doctrine mentions that PP pampers the fabric with special care and "Special controls provide the finest care." p.2. That's all they say. No mention of cooldown.

 

[mickeyd]

Dave, I checked the doctrine

and yes it has a hump for automatic detergent dispensing for soak and wash. Be cool to see it work.

 

[daveamkrayoguy]

Norge w/ Detergent Dispenser in the Daily Doctrine Dispenser

Yes, I downloaded the Brochure & I even SAVED it in my Adobe file (right when there was only 28 Min. to do it, after not being able to find it!)...

Wonder which |N|O|R|G|E| dryer would be close to the dryer Charles Klamkin recommends? (LDE 1818A/LDG 1818A)

-- Dave