Most Unique Washer Control Panel
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I love it. That warm rinse should have been out of the factory.
Here is a concept- Halloween colors on a Kenmore.
Cycle sequence on a continuous advance timer:
Cycle sequence on a continuous advance timer:
How do you like this?
What I imagine when I see your Maytag.Water temps are as follows:
Heavy Duty = Hot / warm
Normal = warm / warm
Perm Press = Hot / Cold
Casuals = Warm / Cold
Delicate = Cold / Cold
phillymatt53
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That's a more top-scale machine you posted. - Nice! - photoshop job!How do you like this?
Water temps are as follows:
Heavy Duty = Hot / warm
Normal = warm / warm
Perm Press = Hot / Cold
Casuals = Warm / Cold
Delicate = Cold / Cold
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That string of indicator lights is where I decided to install the "Warm Rinse" button.
Since of course that area was clear to use.
Mine can now do:
Hot Wash - Cold OR Warm Rinse
Warm Wash - Cold OR Warm Rinse
Cold Wash - Cold Rinse
These are on any type of cycle - Normal, Perm-Press, or Delicate.
Where/how did you wire the warm rinse push button if you don't mind me asking?
Your model is one of my favorite models btw, I've always had a liking for single speed 3 cycle Maytags.
Your model is one of my favorite models btw, I've always had a liking for single speed 3 cycle Maytags.
phillymatt53
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Hi Chet,
The rinse pushbutton is a common push-on, push-off switch.
Basically, it controls the AC power to the small power supply/relay board that I designed.
When powered on, it closes a relay, joining the hot valve to the cold valve - thus, warm rinse.
The button gets power from the rinse power connector on the timer, which is a single pole double throw switch in the timer that triggers only the cold valve. (3)
So when it's time to spray-rinse, or fill-rinse, the neon light also indicates that fact.
Simple yet elegant way of doing it.
pierreandreply4
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@Chetlahamin your own design how would you customise this 1988 kenmore washer (canadien model)
Well if going for a more featured model first I'd pull some of those cycles on the main knob and put them on a separate seelctor switch. I'd also have a speed switch that provides fast/fast, slow/fast, slow/slow and fast/slow. An extra rinse option next to it. Agitation time would be determined by the selected cycle/soil on the cycle/soil knob. For example heavy would give 14 minutes, normal would give 10 minutes wash 4 minutes soak and delicate would give 6 minutes wash with 8 minutes of soak.
I like havong a whole auto cycle pre-soak, pre-wash, wash, rinse, extra rinse in a full revolution. Instead of having 4 or more separate divisions ie soak/prewash; normal with extra rinse; permanent press and delicate with "off" between each portion.
The timer might be continuous advance due to needing to pulse the water valves 10 seconds on 15 seconds off during the spray rinse. Yes this can and has been typically done with an incremental advance timer however I personally do not approve of it as there is more to go wrong due to greater complexity behind it.
I like havong a whole auto cycle pre-soak, pre-wash, wash, rinse, extra rinse in a full revolution. Instead of having 4 or more separate divisions ie soak/prewash; normal with extra rinse; permanent press and delicate with "off" between each portion.
The timer might be continuous advance due to needing to pulse the water valves 10 seconds on 15 seconds off during the spray rinse. Yes this can and has been typically done with an incremental advance timer however I personally do not approve of it as there is more to go wrong due to greater complexity behind it.
If you've got the pics on hand, can you post the tech sheet to your machine?
I want to see what I can do to modify the cycle for warm rinse and other enhanced functions.
phillymatt53
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phillymatt53
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I actually designed the simple 12 volt power supply in my head, to power the 12 volt heavy duty relay.
Things like that are something I can do easily, being burned into my brain from decades of working in electronics.
However, a stupidly simple alternative would be to just put a switch that would parallel the hot and cold valves.
But that would make the machine function as warm-warm when it triggers any "fill" or spray cycle.
You'd have to turn that switch off if you wanted a hot or cold initial wash, then turn it on for the rest of the cycle.
But I'll work on something when I get more time.
phillymatt53
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This is what I did as far as modifications, drawn in Blue.
Mind you, the PS board, relay, etc is from my own design work.
All AC wiring is 18 gauge.
Normally open 12V Relay is rated for 15 amps (heavy duty) far more than needed for the valves.
And this machine may not be comparable with other versions/modelswith different controls.
You're mileage may vary.
Here is how I imagine that tech sheet:
Let me know if there is any particular cycle sequence you'd like to see or anything you'd change. Everything is the same for the 120 volt version except the motor run capacitor is around 100-125uF.
Timer decal has the fills 2 minutes in from the start of fill & soak so 6 minutes of allocated fill time.
phillymatt53
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Well Chet, unfortunately, those schematics are complicated by the timer mechanism.
As much experience in electronics as I have, I'm not comfortable with washing machine diagrams, it's far different than, say, troubleshooting a stereo amplifier or receiver, or even a tv set.
The switch numbers are binary, either open or closed. Red is closed, white is open.
But I don't blame you. The schematic is very simple compared to what is common for washing machines. For example, the 1994 Kenmore thread:
Lots and lots of complexity above, and there are machines even more complex than this. People often get taken aback by some of the concepts I've proposed however they are very, very simple in nature and intended to last wile being joyfully easy to trouble shoot. Contrary to what people believe it takes a very small amount of switches, contacts and electrical components to achieve a great cycle.
Low end dependable care Maytags are a traffic example of this. They usually achieved wash, rinse and spin with the bare minimum.
Question- do you like deep rinses or spray rinses for the rinse cycle?
pierreandreply4
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@Chetlaham if you wanted to convert this belt drive kenmore into a direct drive waher what would you changephillymatt53
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Both, Chet.
And I've found that doing 3 loads over the last few days with the "warm rinse" on, that my clothes come out with less issues than before.
The spray rinse has more "force" to pre-rinse the soap out, and the Downey softener dissolves better in the final deep "warm rinse".
